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The Elder Brain
11-21-2008, 06:25 PM
Why DO we hate Twilight friendos? Because
A. I need to know there are SOME sane people left in this world
B. I need more artillery to use, for when some girl starts spouting about how she dreams about sleeping with Edward.

*shudders*

Nonsensical studios
11-21-2008, 06:26 PM
We hate it because its just another teen love story, 'cept one guy is a vampire.

Vaughn Whynot
11-21-2008, 06:29 PM
i think its like notebook with a vampire lol

TheMightySeamus
11-21-2008, 06:32 PM
Vampires are supposed to be tough or scary.

That said, I would read werewolf romance. It has so many more possibilities for conflict!

Vaughn Whynot
11-21-2008, 06:34 PM
Vampires are supposed to be tough or scary.

That said, I would read werewolf romance. It has so many more possibilities for conflict!
lol American werewolf in Paris, and underworld is like both together lol

MitchellStafiej
11-21-2008, 06:45 PM
Big Wolf on Campus movie FTW.

But I hate Twilight because we just spawned a Zac Efron #2. Also because it's the same story but with fangs.

Mitch

Vaughn Whynot
11-21-2008, 06:55 PM
lol yeah my woman watches tmz on tv
and they asked him some questions
and he is even surprised he is this big
lol

NaziActionFigure
11-21-2008, 08:02 PM
'We' hate it because hating it is the cool thing to do right now.

The Elder Brain
11-21-2008, 09:04 PM
'We' hate it because hating it is the cool thing to do right now.

With good reason I assure you

Marc-OS
11-21-2008, 09:27 PM
I've seen this movie, and it is absolutely terrible. You can hate it because it is just awful. I've never seen so many awkward stares in one movie ever.

The Elder Brain
11-21-2008, 09:31 PM
"Say it! Say it out loud..."

"Va...Vampire"

then the rest of the movie is just fluff for pre-pubescent girls, that wish THEY could find a vampire lover that understands them, who's a vampire, and is nice, and thats a vampire, and who cuddles with her, and is a vampire, and live happily ever after with...Who is also a vampire...

Nonsensical studios
11-21-2008, 09:41 PM
Don't forget he is charming and handsome...and a vampire.

SyxxGage
11-21-2008, 09:41 PM
I would read werewolf romance. It has so many more possibilities for conflict!

Like whether or not to do it doggy style!

The Elder Brain
11-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Like whether or not to do it doggy style!

And we do it doggy style, so we can go watch X-files
you and me baby ain't nothing but mammals...

TreasureBox Films
11-21-2008, 11:04 PM
I hat e the twilight crap.

Kaygee
11-21-2008, 11:34 PM
I dont get the fascination with vampires. They're basically blood rapists. Loathesome creatures, lower than a snakes belly, stalking the night to prey on the bodily fluids of living creatures so as to sustain their twisted existence. How is that charming?

Kohrsfilms
11-22-2008, 12:46 AM
I, unfortunatley, attended the Twilight panel at the San Diego Comic Con. I have never felt so out of place in my entire life. All of the trailers and footage they showed for Twilight looked absolutely terrible. It looked like it was made by the people who make the sci-fi channel original movies. It just looks bad. End of story.

anomalie
11-22-2008, 12:49 AM
Poorly written book. Why can't anyone write a good vampire novel? One that is not a tween love-ish story?

WesScog
11-22-2008, 01:08 AM
I dont get the fascination with vampires. They're basically blood rapists. Loathesome creatures, lower than a snakes belly, stalking the night to prey on the bodily fluids of living creatures so as to sustain their twisted existence. How is that charming?

It's not, the traditional myth of the vampire is far closer to a Zombie than the modern vampire.

The vampire for much of it's existence was said to be a rotting corpse, who lived in graveyards and murdered for sustenance. They drank blood and ate human flesh, stank of decay and death, and generally caused revulsion and disgust in humans.

Only more recently have we started developing the notion of the Romantic Vampire, the creature we now know as a Vampire is actually far closer to an Incubus than the traditional Vampire who is far closer to a Ghoul.

Fisherking
11-22-2008, 05:50 AM
Sounds like more pop-culture passed me by.

Zombievsrobot
11-22-2008, 10:18 AM
Poorly written book. Why can't anyone write a good vampire novel? One that is not a tween love-ish story?

It's called "Let me in" by John Ajvide Lindqvist. None of this fluffy shirted, immortal, romantic bullshit (well, there is romance but it's not what you might think)

The move "Let the Right One In" was released this year based on the book. Not only is it the best vampire movie EVER, it is also one of the best movies I have ever see, period.

Check it out and scrap Twilight.

Wra1th13
11-22-2008, 10:22 AM
We hate it because, the writer decided: vampires don't get hurt by; sun,crosses,garlic or stakes. And because appartently they can't fly and can stop cars.

TreasureBox Films
11-22-2008, 10:33 AM
I had a friend from Ireland, and he actually saw Stephine Meyer (she lives in Arizona)
he was sitting in traffic and he noticed the car in front of him had the old english way of saying vampire (vampyre?) on the license plate. and as he pulled up he noticed it was her.

MitchellStafiej
11-22-2008, 10:44 AM
I, unfortunatley, attended the Twilight panel at the San Diego Comic Con. I have never felt so out of place in my entire life. All of the trailers and footage they showed for Twilight looked absolutely terrible. It looked like it was made by the people who make the sci-fi channel original movies. It just looks bad. End of story.
To be fair some of those Sci Fi original movies are great.

Mitch

Kohrsfilms
11-22-2008, 01:00 PM
^That's true. I have seen a few that weren't too bad. But a majority are just so cheaply made that it shows through in the movie. That's more what I was trying to get at.

The Elder Brain
11-22-2008, 01:54 PM
The move "Let the Right One In" was released this year based on the book. Not only is it the best vampire movie EVER, it is also one of the best movies I have ever see, period.

Check it out and scrap Twilight.

Ah. Another "Rue Morgue" reader. Good to know!

Zombievsrobot
11-22-2008, 03:31 PM
I was just lucky enough to see it at the After Dark Film Festival.

Citrus
11-22-2008, 06:09 PM
I'm undecided on it. I can't fairly judge it because I haven't read or seen Twilight. But I'm annoyed by every girl I know getting nuts over it and that Edward guy.
From what I've been told it sounds like if we chopped out the vampire part, it would be horrible and boring.
But there is one good thing from this, boys finally have something to tease girls (in general, there are of course exceptions) about getting all geeky about something finally. And of course they have excuses...I've tried this already and they have reasons to say why this is different than getting all hyped up over Dark Knight. It's just a different perspective on things, I was excited for Dark Knight cus I'm a fan of Batman and it looked really good. She was excited because it's a romance movie with "the perfect guy" who is a vampire...seems a little bit like a gimmick for business.

thorni52
11-22-2008, 07:00 PM
it looks like pop culture bullshit to me.... what's so great about it. It looks like a straight to dvd movie.

766films
11-22-2008, 07:10 PM
I'm undecided on it. I can't fairly judge it because I haven't read or seen Twilight. But I'm annoyed by every girl I know getting nuts over it and that Edward guy.


same here almost every girl in my school is going nuts over this movie, its really annoying

Kaygee
11-22-2008, 08:28 PM
But there is one good thing from this, boys finally have something to tease girls (in general, there are of course exceptions) about getting all geeky about something finally.

I take it you missed the lusting after Draco Malfoy/Neville Longbottom craze a year or two ago then?

BonOfTheDead
11-22-2008, 09:15 PM
if dracula saw that movie, he would kill himself even though he cant, because hes a vampire.

The Elder Brain
11-22-2008, 11:57 PM
I take it you missed the lusting after Draco Malfoy/Neville Longbottom craze a year or two ago then?

To put it bluntly, girls are weird. Thats why I avoid them *goes back to watching Star Trek reruns*

Radstrike
11-23-2008, 12:47 AM
To put it bluntly, girls are weird. Thats why I avoid them *goes back to watching Star Trek reruns*

I see someone hasn't hit puberty yet.

Anyway, it was kind of cheesy, but it was also a little refreshing after Deathly Hallows. For the first two books at least, the characters actually acted human. It's hard to find a teen book that has the kids actually acting like kids. Either they act too junvenile or too adult. They didn't do anything really, really stupid; the kind of stupid that makes you scream "NO, YOU DID NOT JUST DO THAT!" and throw the book against the wall. This happend more than one in each Harry Potter book, and don't even get me started on Lord of the Flies.

My main reason for reading the books in the first place was because all of the girls were all gaga over it. I decided, if I could read the whole series in one week, I would. And I did. All I have to do is say, "Twilight? Yeah I read it. It was okay." and they usually respond, "Oh, wow! You read it! I like you a lot more now! Oh, Edward he's so dreamy."
Me: "Team Jacob."
Girl: "He's nice too. Want to hang out?"
Me: "Sure, why not?"
Turn on the charm and soon they feel like they have their own Edward. Works like a dream.
I'm sorry if that's the way it works out, but it's a conversation starter, besides, the book is about vampires and werewolves. Seriously, frikin' vampires and werewolves. I probably would have read it just for that.

draik41895
11-23-2008, 01:33 AM
The vamps and werewolves are all right but this "in love" thing is totally getting on my last nerve.Not to mention the fact that there's so many things that could be about them.

ironman052992
11-23-2008, 02:34 AM
too many people are writting love stories now, and honestly, it's fucking annoying. if i watch a movie with vampires in it, there better damn well be some real gore and none of that lovey-dovey bullshit.

Metcalfe
11-23-2008, 03:26 AM
Romantic films just make me feel anoyed, lonely and depressed.

I prefer high-Octaine action films where I can say "At least I'm slightly less Dead than 'Evil Henchman No#37'"

TreasureBox Films
11-23-2008, 10:42 AM
I see someone hasn't hit puberty yet.

Anyway, it was kind of cheesy, but it was also a little refreshing after Deathly Hallows. For the first two books at least, the characters actually acted human. It's hard to find a teen book that has the kids actually acting like kids. Either they act too junvenile or too adult. They didn't do anything really, really stupid; the kind of stupid that makes you scream "NO, YOU DID NOT JUST DO THAT!" and throw the book against the wall. This happend more than one in each Harry Potter book, and don't even get me started on Lord of the Flies.

My main reason for reading the books in the first place was because all of the girls were all gaga over it. I decided, if I could read the whole series in one week, I would. And I did. All I have to do is say, "Twilight? Yeah I read it. It was okay." and they usually respond, "Oh, wow! You read it! I like you a lot more now! Oh, Edward he's so dreamy."
Me: "Team Jacob."
Girl: "He's nice too. Want to hang out?"
Me: "Sure, why not?"
Turn on the charm and soon they feel like they have their own Edward. Works like a dream.
I'm sorry if that's the way it works out, but it's a conversation starter, besides, the book is about vampires and werewolves. Seriously, frikin' vampires and werewolves. I probably would have read it just for that.
bwa hahahaha!
new sig!

Indymoguler
11-23-2008, 01:17 PM
every girl in my school has seen that effing movie. and im like "seriously i can already tell you it sucks"
and theyre like "how the hell do u know?!?"
"its a effing romance story between a vampire and a chick.
cant get any simpler than that

TreasureBox Films
11-23-2008, 01:39 PM
it stole harry potter 6 release date.

Radstrike
11-23-2008, 01:42 PM
I've been sig'ed!

I am planning on seeing the movie pretty much for the sole purpose of critisizing it. I know that it's going to be bad, so I'll have a lot to talk about with those girls. *wink*

TreasureBox Films
11-23-2008, 01:45 PM
I've been sig'ed!

I am planning on seeing the movie pretty much for the sole purpose of critisizing it. I know that it's going to be bad, so I'll have a lot to talk about with those girls. *wink*
I coined that phrase! I think.
yeah, tell them you liked it!

The Elder Brain
11-23-2008, 02:19 PM
I don't plan on seeing it, but the least I can do is spoil it for people who haven't finished all the books yet. Yessiree I'm doing my part!

evmo
11-24-2008, 10:28 PM
it sucks because it breakes all the rules of vampirries weve had since like the 13th century which i donk care what her religious belifes are you dont fucking mess with tradition

HunnyBunchFilms
11-25-2008, 11:38 AM
it sucks because it breakes all the rules of vampirries weve had since like the 13th century which i donk care what her religious belifes are you dont fucking mess with tradition

Well do be fair all of the traditional vampire rules were created fairly recently in popular works of fiction. Our sense of vampires has been around since the last century. Before that vampires in myths were more like creatures. Kind of like "traditional" zombies. They would feed on humans, but would take more than blood. Vampires would harvest organs, bones, and even emotions. My memory is sketchy but I think it wasn't until Nosferatu and the original Dracula where vampires started having "rules" and limitations in their abilities.

Anyway sure Twilight sucks. I don't feel like I need to read the books or see the movie to tell you that. It just weird how popular culture is so driven by the younger audience. Something can be completely awful but as long as its marketed to the right demographic it will surely be a hit. I'm not a hater of all kid friendly tween movies. But maybe they should start churning out some movies that are actually good. Even though Pixar and Disney already have that covered.

Brainstrained
11-25-2008, 03:11 PM
I don't plan on seeing it, but the least I can do is spoil it for people who haven't finished all the books yet. Yessiree I'm doing my part!

Why are you such an idiot? If someone is enjoying the book, don't spoil it for them just because you didn't like it. If you hate Twilight so much, shut the fuck up already.

The Elder Brain
11-25-2008, 06:15 PM
I was making a joke. From what I've seen, the only times you seem to post, is when your yelling at people. Don't you have anything better to do?

Radstrike
11-25-2008, 06:47 PM
I was making a joke. From what I've seen, the only times you seem to post, is when your yelling at people. Don't you have anything better to do?

I'm going to have to go with Brainstrained here. Just as you are entitled to your opinion of hating the book, others are entitled to enjoy it. The world does not have to conform to your mold, and the sooner you come to accept that, the happier everyone will be. Especially everyone else. 'Cause if you keep acting the way you are, everyone's going to hate you in short order.

pcgfilms
11-25-2008, 06:48 PM
no I don't think he does.

The Elder Brain
11-25-2008, 06:56 PM
I was asking what everyone else thought of the book, and I made a joke about it. I don't care if you like it or not, as long as your not all...shrieky...about it

kjkjkj
11-25-2008, 07:20 PM
So if half of the people who are saying they hate it, haven't even read the books, or seen the movie, then why are you even talking about it? How do you even know that you wouldn't like it? I HATE when people say they don't like a movie, book, or music, when they've never even watched, read, or listened to it! Maybe some of you need to listen to the phrase " Don't judge a book by it's cover" or don't judge anything based on how popular it is with other people for that matter!!

The Elder Brain
11-25-2008, 07:33 PM
I personally dislike although
A. I have read it
B. I have friends who like it
C. My brothers in the Twilight fan club

I think it's overrated, and brings nothing new to the table. If you replace the word "Vampire" with "Gangster" and "Clan" with "Gang" you pretty much have a gang story. Nothing really needs to be changed. The whole thing just take advantage of pubescent girls unrealistic expectations of love and dating.
Again I'm not bashing, just my opinion

Yugispoony
11-25-2008, 07:35 PM
I had expected it to be more of a horror, but it was a love story! What the heck!

Indymoguler
11-25-2008, 11:27 PM
i would read it. just to see it what was like.........
but i will never see the movie

Cris Cole
11-26-2008, 01:21 AM
I'm undecided on it. I can't fairly judge it because I haven't read or seen Twilight. But I'm annoyed by every girl I know getting nuts over it and that Edward guy.
From what I've been told it sounds like if we chopped out the vampire part, it would be horrible and boring.
But there is one good thing from this, boys finally have something to tease girls (in general, there are of course exceptions) about getting all geeky about something finally. And of course they have excuses...I've tried this already and they have reasons to say why this is different than getting all hyped up over Dark Knight. It's just a different perspective on things, I was excited for Dark Knight cus I'm a fan of Batman and it looked really good. She was excited because it's a romance movie with "the perfect guy" who is a vampire...seems a little bit like a gimmick for business.
Well, to be honest, that is how I felt about the Dark Night. Batman was turned into a pop culture icon. He became this dark character, and you were made to think, is anyone truly good? But that's not Batman. Batman is a superhero. He is supposed to be all good-that is Batman. Good trimuphs over evil. Then it gets turned into a pop culture hopless 'all is lost' type. Ugh.

Metcalfe
11-26-2008, 11:36 AM
The 'Sexy'* vimpire idea is used often nowerdays. just look at this http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/movies/galleries/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=11273338&imageindex=15

*Personaly I don't think that anybody who is technicaly dead (or Undead if you prefer) could be considered atractive.

Radstrike
11-26-2008, 12:48 PM
The 'Sexy'* vimpire idea is used often nowerdays. just look at this http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/movies/galleries/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=11273338&imageindex=15

*Personaly I don't think that anybody who is technicaly dead (or Undead if you prefer) could be considered atractive.

One word: Necrophiliacs

Metcalfe
11-26-2008, 02:52 PM
One word: Necrophiliacs

Should'nt that be Necrophiles?

Radstrike
11-26-2008, 03:00 PM
I did some checking, and a:
necrophile (plural necrophiles)

One who is subject to necrophilia (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/necrophilia). On the other hand:
necrophiliac (plural necrophiliacs)

a person who engages in necrophilia (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/necrophilia)I take it then that a necrophile simply feels, *ahem* attracted to corpses. A necrophiliac is one who actually...uhh....rapes...the...body.

This is really disgusting.



Edit: I got these off of the wiki dictionary, if you want to check for yourself.

Metcalfe
11-26-2008, 05:06 PM
I did some checking, and a:
necrophile (plural necrophiles)

One who is subject to necrophilia (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/necrophilia). On the other hand:
necrophiliac (plural necrophiliacs)

a person who engages in necrophilia (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/necrophilia)I take it then that a necrophile simply feels, *ahem* attracted to corpses. A necrophiliac is one who actually...uhh....rapes...the...body.

This is really disgusting.



Edit: I got these off of the wiki dictionary, if you want to check for yourself.

I don't know whether to thank you for enlightening me or grimace in disgust.

I will do both...

Thanks:thumbsup:

Grimace :kenny:

KingNikan
11-26-2008, 10:43 PM
Its the same crap

Edward:Who am i gona do, how am i gona do her how hard!!!!!!!

GOD go to a Goth Shop you'll find some Vampire Porn there

YES I WATCHED AND READ IT SO NOOB DONT GET ON MY CASE

Thank You :)

Indymoguler
11-26-2008, 10:46 PM
u guys see that south park episode of kids becoming vampires? ahahah it was effing hilarious. they make fun of everything

Fisherking
11-27-2008, 05:39 PM
Well, to be honest, that is how I felt about the Dark Night. Batman was turned into a pop culture icon. He became this dark character, and you were made to think, is anyone truly good? But that's not Batman. Batman is a superhero. He is supposed to be all good-that is Batman. Good trimuphs over evil. Then it gets turned into a pop culture hopless 'all is lost' type. Ugh.

That's not true. Superman is like that, but Batman isn't -- at least, he wasn't. The earlier Batman was pulp, hard-arsed detective stories. He murders several people in the first comic. It went a bit sillier as market-share waned, but it's been pretty solidly gritty and a little morally ambiguous since Miller's The Dark Knight Returns.

Batman's still a hero, and I really don't see how you can't get that from the film, but Nolan's just tried to muddy the waters a little. At the end he decides that he needs to be the whipping boy, so that Harvey Dent can serve as an example of how effective change can be bought about morally and legally. Though of course we, the audience, know that a extra-legal shit-kicker like Batman (and Gordon, to some extent) is sometimes necessary. Batman is more-or-less fighting the good fight, though his tactics are often very heavy-handed (perhaps excessively so - here's where the ambiguity comes in).

Maybe no one is absolutely good (which is a message, frankly, I think most of the Hollywood audience need to recieve), but I think to classify it as 'no-one's good' and 'all is lost' is missing the point.

WesScog
11-27-2008, 06:06 PM
Yea, I agree. Batman has ALWAYS been a dark gritty brooding character.

It was only during the 50's and 60's when they tried to lighten it up and bring in Robin that it made Batman into a Boyscount Hero type closer to Superman.

Superman has always been a very "good" guy, he is a demigod who can accomplish most of his deeds by brute strength.

While Batman is the epitome of human achievement, rich, brilliant, peak physical condition, he doesn't have superpowers to rely on, he's got to rely on his own brutality and wit to win the day and fight crime.

Not to mention WHY he's doing it, he's doing it because he watched his parents brutally murdered in front of him as a child, it more or less drove him mad, and now he's dedicated his life to fighting crime.

Batman was the dark pulp detective archtype, he was a contemporary of the Shadow, who would gleefully gun criminals down with his dual pistols (a trait that Batman shared with the Shadow in the first iteration of his character).

Miller's darker gritter Batman was a return to the roots of the character not a perversion of him.

GarebearProductions
11-27-2008, 07:34 PM
we HATE twilight because people should not become so obsessed with a frickin vampur and its love story. its dum. dont question it.

Maluro
11-28-2008, 06:59 PM
:O
this thread is so sad :'(
i don't LOVE Twilight but i like it.
ok the movie.... i'll have to wait until it comes here >.<

Cashew772
11-29-2008, 11:46 AM
C'mon people, its a book! its ok to hate it and all, but I think they are awesome books! Ya it is kinda wierd that they are vampires and werewolves, but its pretty much a girl thing about love. I have heard the movie sucks, but haven't seen it myself. idk why you started a thread about hating a book, but ok. I just gave my opinion.

Indymoguler
11-29-2008, 02:08 PM
i read one page. ONE PAGE. and it was so.........so horrible.

KingNikan
11-30-2008, 01:04 AM
OMFG they have a Twlight hate site

WesScog
12-03-2008, 11:35 PM
I have a new reason...

The TERRIBLE looking Color Grading in the film. EVERYTHING IS GREEN AND BLUE.

Just goes to show you, it doesn't matter if you've got a multi-million dollar budget, and you're using top quality super 35mm film in a half a million dollar camera.

If you've got bad lighting and bad grading it can still look like complete garbage.

Indymoguler
12-03-2008, 11:49 PM
considering this is an example of shakespear's romeo and juliet
i find this movie even worse than some romantic movies/novels because it involves supernatural characters. c'mon. a relationship between a vampire and a human. you have got to be kidding me

WesScog
12-03-2008, 11:50 PM
That's really not the outlandish part... I mean it's not what I really have a gripe about.

It's that it's handled so poorly that bothers me.

Indymoguler
12-03-2008, 11:53 PM
i know, most guys dislike it. the reason for most is because either its about a fantasy that could never happen in reality. and im guessing the movie was horrible as well...

Ladri.
12-03-2008, 11:56 PM
It's that it's handled so poorly that bothers me.

That's what bothered me too. Standing as a movie alone, the action was so misplaced it through off the pace of the entire movie.

And indymoguler, have you never seen a vampire movie before? How the hell is a relationship between a vampire and a human so unrealistic? It's not real life. Watch Underworld (maybe the second one. can't remember which) it has a romance just like that and guess what! It's not outlandish because the movie is about vampires and werewolves. :eek: :eek:

WesScog
12-04-2008, 12:05 AM
Well it also doesn't help that what we now know as a "Vampire" in modern culture has little to any resemblance to the classical Eastern European Source of the myth.

Vampires have traditionally been filthy, rotting, feral creatures that lived in cemeteries and came out at night to terrorize the living.

The modern vampire is largely a Romantic era invention with more in common with the legends of the Incubus than the traditional Vampire (which has more in common with the modern Ghoul or Zombie).

trspballer7
12-04-2008, 12:05 AM
Because I work at a movie theatre, and twilight is always extremely dirty and difficult to clean up.

WesScog
12-04-2008, 12:07 AM
So people leave a lot of soda and popcorn in the theater when they leave?

trspballer7
12-04-2008, 12:08 AM
So people leave a lot of soda and popcorn in the theater when they leave?


you have no idea.

WesScog
12-04-2008, 12:13 AM
Really? Is it because of all of the teenagers and kids or what?

Ladri.
12-04-2008, 12:17 AM
No, even adults do it. I see it all the time. I know enough people that work in theaters to not do that. It's not that hard to throw popcorn and soda away.

Radstrike
12-04-2008, 12:20 AM
That's what bothered me too. Standing as a movie alone, the action was so misplaced it through off the pace of the entire movie.

And indymoguler, have you never seen a vampire movie before? How the hell is a relationship between a vampire and a human so unrealistic? It's not real life. Watch Underworld (maybe the second one. can't remember which) it has a romance just like that and guess what! It's not outlandish because the movie is about vampires and werewolves. :eek: :eek:

I don't think that your example is quite relevant. In the second Underworld movie the romance was between a vampire and a half/vampire, not quite between a vampire and a human. (sorry, just watched it this weekend).
Anyway, it's fantasy. Anything can happen, so I agree with you, I just wanted to point out the thing with underworld.

Radstrike
12-04-2008, 12:22 AM
No, even adults do it. I see it all the time. I know enough people that work in theaters to not do that. It's not that hard to throw popcorn and soda away.

Hey, it's not really the people that dump trash on the floor that's really disgusting, it's the people that eat the popcorn out of the trash that is disgusting.

Ladri.
12-04-2008, 12:30 AM
I don't think that your example is quite relevant. In the second Underworld movie the romance was between a vampire and a half/vampire, not quite between a vampire and a human.

Damn it. I forgot that he was half vampire or whatever. I haven't seen it in a long time. Well, I retract my statement then. I was wrong.

Radstrike
12-04-2008, 12:32 AM
Damn it. I forgot that he was half vampire or whatever. I haven't seen it in a long time. Well, I retract my statement then. I was wrong.

I messed my post up too. I meant to write half werewolf/half vampire, not "half/vampire". Sounds a little inane doesn't it?

loosechange
12-04-2008, 12:57 AM
My ex was always telling me to read the book, but this was a very very long time ago at least a year ago. She generally was a nut over anything that had to do with vampires so she would be reading any and every book that had vampires in it. It was even to a point where she'd be like "Real vampires don't die from garlic." And I'm thinking in my head "What the hell is a real vampire?".

So yea a very long time ago she tells me "Twilights being made into a movie!"
Me: "what's twilight?"
her:"That vampire book I was telling you about"
me:"Every single book you tell me about has to do with vampires.

Anyways fast forward to now and Twilight is all the rage, making all the money at the box office, everywhere I go a girl wants their own personal Edward, and every girl is still telling me to "go see the movie it was the best movie ever" "you havent read the book you should?"

Still haven't read the book still haven't watched the movie. It just doesn't interest me. I wanna see James Bond not Twilight.

Anyways why do I dislike Twilight?

Well I don't really dislike it, because I just don't care about it, other then the fact that it's getting pretty annoying.

But what really bothers me is that in all likelihood the movie is sub-par at best, and it's so successful. Every girl who tells me its the best movie they have ever seen obviously don't watch that many good movies.

I mean here I am, confident in my ability to write and direct a real badass film, but I'm not doing it. Instead I sit around not working on my writing and directing, while movies like Twilight get all the praise. I don't want to make sub par movies I want to be known for making good movies! But there it is in front of us, Twilight making all the big bucks, while we sit around not making our movies! Isn't that something?

It makes me feel like a loser man. In fact I'm glad I came on this forum and am writing this right now. Wescog pointed out the shoddy color grading, everyone else is pointing out the weak story involving teen love with vampires, its all so predictable...and the people who made this flawed movie are making all the big bucks right now!

Now I don't know about everyone else's future goals, but I want to be a director, and I want to be just as good as Scorsese, or Coppola. So reading this forum basically made me realize something. It's not gonna happen if I just sit around letting subpar movies own at the cinema and not do anything about it.

HunnyBunchFilms
12-04-2008, 11:30 AM
Well, to be honest, that is how I felt about the Dark Night. Batman was turned into a pop culture icon. He became this dark character, and you were made to think, is anyone truly good? But that's not Batman. Batman is a superhero. He is supposed to be all good-that is Batman. Good trimuphs over evil. Then it gets turned into a pop culture hopless 'all is lost' type. Ugh.

Have you ever read a comic? Batman is supposed to be a dark character with inner demons. He is the bad cop to Superman's good cop. Well he's the bad cop to everyones good cop actually. He started to lighten up when they introduced Robin. DC wanted the comics to appeal to younger audiences. I think Batman got his edge back right around the Neil Adams days when they killed off Jason Todd. I'm not 100 percent sure on this but this is my understanding.

So people leave a lot of soda and popcorn in the theater when they leave?

It's much worse than that. When I was working in a movie theater my manager told me when I'm cleaning up the theater to never pick up napkins with my bare hands. I said "Ohh yeah I don't wanna get anyones snot in my hands". Then my manager literally said "Yeah...uhh...snot"

Radstrike
12-04-2008, 01:50 PM
Then my manager literally said "Yeah...uhh...snot"

ummm....ew.

ThreeOnAMeathook
12-04-2008, 02:56 PM
It's called "Let me in" by John Ajvide Lindqvist. None of this fluffy shirted, immortal, romantic bullshit (well, there is romance but it's not what you might think)

The move "Let the Right One In" was released this year based on the book. Not only is it the best vampire movie EVER, it is also one of the best movies I have ever see, period.

Check it out and scrap Twilight.

QFT...

'Let The Right One In' is fucking amazing.

Ah. Another "Rue Morgue" reader. Good to know!

I don't read Rue Morgue and I knew about LTROI.

I was making a joke. From what I've seen, the only times you seem to post, is when your yelling at people. Don't you have anything better to do?

Dude's got a point though. Ruining someone's read of a book is a real asshole thing to do.

--------------------------------

Twilight sucks (ha) because its a bloodless vampire story. That's just retarded. I mean, Dracula, Vampyr and Nosferatu and other older vampire movies didn't have tons of blood either, but they had atmosphere. Also, in those times, cinema was pretty...I don't wanna say censored...but they just didn't show certain stuff.

A modern vampire movie without any blood is just absurd. Twilight is like a H.I.M. song. I don't hate it, but I'm not a casualty to its hype.

trspballer7
12-04-2008, 04:19 PM
No, even adults do it. I see it all the time. I know enough people that work in theaters to not do that. It's not that hard to throw popcorn and soda away.


Yeah, I can understand a spill, but straight up leaving it there pisses me off. but I guess if they didn't do it then I wouldn't have a job. So its catch 22.

GhostOfAllie
12-06-2008, 02:13 PM
Ugh, I hate twighlight, 96% of the girls in my school have gone ga-ga over Edward Cullen. My mom bought the bootleg[and the book! Treason!] and I couldn't sit through it, it was that awful.

The Elder Brain
12-06-2008, 05:12 PM
Dude's got a point though. Ruining someone's read of a book is a real asshole thing to do.


I reiterate. I was joking. I hate it when people do it too me, and I wouldn't do it too anyone else either.

WesScog
12-06-2008, 05:46 PM
I have a new reason...

The TERRIBLE looking Color Grading in the film. EVERYTHING IS GREEN AND BLUE.

Just goes to show you, it doesn't matter if you've got a multi-million dollar budget, and you're using top quality super 35mm film in a half a million dollar camera.

If you've got bad lighting and bad grading it can still look like complete garbage.

Just to reiterate.

trspballer7
12-06-2008, 05:55 PM
Just to reiterate.


actually I have come to belive that the look was intentional to try to make all of the emo girls in the world think it's okay not to be a tan godess (which it is) by making everyone look pale and pigment-less.

WesScog
12-06-2008, 06:02 PM
I don't give a crap what it's INTENTION was, it looks like generic garbage. It looks like a terrible independent horror film with a budget of about 15 dollars.

Instead of filming something with life and substance, the image looks as cheap and dead as the main character. TERRIBLE color grading, TERRIBLE lighting.

Fisherking
12-06-2008, 11:59 PM
Never saw it specifically, but dial me up as another person who hates overly-blue grades with a passion.

loosechange
12-07-2008, 12:20 AM
I don't give a crap what it's INTENTION was, it looks like generic garbage. It looks like a terrible independent horror film with a budget of about 15 dollars.

Instead of filming something with life and substance, the image looks as cheap and dead as the main character. TERRIBLE color grading, TERRIBLE lighting.


your 100% right the color grading is dull. and the girl who said her mom bought the bootleg, i hope thats what everyone does, buying the dvd puts more $ in the pockets of ppl who made a bad movie.

GhostOfAllie
12-07-2008, 12:25 AM
your 100% right the color grading is dull. and the girl who said her mom bought the bootleg, i hope thats what everyone does, buying the dvd puts more $ in the pockets of ppl who made a bad movie.

That was moi, and I'm not going to lie, I own ALOT of bootlegs, but I always try to make up for it by buying the dvds or seeing them at the show too. But I WILL not do that for twilight.

NaziActionFigure
12-07-2008, 01:15 AM
Wow. I saw this with some friends today and, as I should have known, it was terrible. From the acting, to the bad dialog to the bad pacing and insane amount of jump cuts, this movie is a complete train wreck.

trspballer7
12-07-2008, 11:13 PM
I don't give a crap what it's INTENTION was, it looks like generic garbage. It looks like a terrible independent horror film with a budget of about 15 dollars.

Instead of filming something with life and substance, the image looks as cheap and dead as the main character. TERRIBLE color grading, TERRIBLE lighting.

Woah woah woah, I was in NO way defending it. I was just saying they did the color grading on purpose. (Even though it still looks shitty) I agree with you that it is terrible, but they did of course use professional lighting, which makes it even sadder because of how much money was spent/wasted on making this film when so many other(better) films could have been created with that.

WesScog
12-08-2008, 12:25 AM
That's my whole point, I REALIZE it was intentional, and that's why I care so much, they intentionally made a movie that looks like a Sci-Fi original, i'm honestly flabbergasted that they spent so much money on a film that looks like this.

It looks like it was filmed on a perpetually cloudy day, and it's so drab looking that it makes me want to cut myself.

loosechange
12-08-2008, 12:59 AM
you could tell it was drab from the trailer.

obviously the target audience was a younger crowd.

And well when your target audience is a younger crowd you can get away with alot more, cuz your largest demographic of viewers arent gonna notice.

ionfilms
12-08-2008, 03:19 AM
http://forum.indymogul.com/data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABwAAAAOCAYAAAA 8E3wEAAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAACXBIWXMAAAsTAAALEwEAmpwYAAAAB3RJTUUH1Q UUDyoqJjAqRwAAAN1JREFUOMu1lMkVwyAMBYe0JGpCNUFNVk3k 4AUwxPGS+ILxkzX8jyTH/Sfu9nrmJ3cXlnMASyWRPwd2d5XlHCBZn1BthcbRAdxTZQDI8k3 mQzg11rhF+QZ9jdNOcQib6GFQYJYgCFucSRf6GsLU6wEY5yubT FqF2yq1vRwr3INXdQUWG+je1pELX4ED1wDyRAR0WfuAA9gloIT yvsFMIMgYInYRqF6rO9Sqz9qkO5ilyo0o3YBwJ+6vrdQonxWUQ llhXeHcb/wabMPkP2n81ocAIoLZrMqn/4y2RwP8DcQ+d6rT9ATiAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC

I had never even heard of twilight till the Monday after it came out.

Todd
12-08-2008, 04:02 PM
i never heard of it until the other day. this girl i know is fanatical about it, and knows im into vampire/werewolf stuff. so i watched it with said friend, and after about 30 mins of the movie i was ready to dismiss it, but the remainder of the film took me by surprise, and managed to get worse and worse.

zzz...

ciwi286
12-08-2008, 06:39 PM
No-one over here is really hyped about it...I know one girl who is obsessed with the book but she denies it and is mocked by her friends for it.

Nonsensical studios
12-08-2008, 06:42 PM
No-one over here is really hyped about it...I know one girl who is obsessed with the book but she denies it and is mocked by her friends for it.

Ireland appears to be a sanctuary from...

It.

1MrPink1
12-09-2008, 07:15 PM
The only positive thing that came from Twilight, was another funny South Park episode that made me laugh and look down upon all those damned Twilight lovers.

melhuff1982
12-09-2008, 10:47 PM
Well, to be honest, that is how I felt about the Dark Night. Batman was turned into a pop culture icon. He became this dark character, and you were made to think, is anyone truly good? But that's not Batman. Batman is a superhero. He is supposed to be all good-that is Batman. Good trimuphs over evil. Then it gets turned into a pop culture hopless 'all is lost' type. Ugh.


No offense meant here, but read the batman comics through the years. About the only time Batman wasn't dark, was in the 60's. Batman has always been one of the darkest superheroes. That's what makes him so different from the other guys. Watch Tim Burton's version of Batman, it's just as dark as Dark Knight. Batman has always been the superhero you wonder about. Is he truly good or not? That's why Dark Knight rocks, it captured the true essence of Batman.

melhuff1982
12-09-2008, 11:05 PM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but unfortunately read the book. I don't always mind when people create new rules for vampires, because I like to see how others can create originality from something that has a long history. But I knew Meyer was going way too far when Edward glittered in the sun. REALLY! Does anyone know how that was done in the movie? Is it as horrible as I picture it in my mind? I mean obviously vampires, zombies, werewolves etc. are all fictions of the human mind and their stories have evolved over time, but for Christ's Sakes, glitter in the sun. WHY? I don't know. The book is a typical teenager book. The sad part is that my stepmother, who has a masters in English, was the one who lent me the book.

WesScog
12-10-2008, 01:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u718MmV0dg

"Look. I sparkle!"

Radstrike
12-10-2008, 01:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u718MmV0dg

"Look. I sparkle!"

NoOOOOOOoooOOO!

KingNikan
12-10-2008, 05:34 PM
God i put up a Video with a picture of Twilight and i made these kids belive it was the real deal full movie

now because some horny teen girls flagged me they removed the video for innapropriate content. HOW THE FUCK IS that against the rules its just a TWILIGHT PICTURE.

Radstrike
12-15-2008, 04:43 AM
HOLY SHIT.

I just watched Twilight finally and let me tell you; my sister and I are extremely glad that we found a source for a pirated dvd rather than pay $18 for tickets. I couldn't believe how awful that movie was. HORRIBLE. I wanted to claw my eyes out.

Could they have cast any people worse for that movie? Seriously, was there a sale at the bad actor mart or something? The dialogue; who wrote that? A third grader? Who was the hairdresser on that set, I'd like to know, most of the hair looked like she or he just took some glue and randomly shoved hair around.
The special effect were AWFUL. You could see the wires in some scenes, and in others (the ballet studio) you could actually see the ropes sag as they dragged the actors across the sets.

Continuity sucked, at the beginning you see a vamp chasing a deer. That scene must have lasted 45sec, way too long. However, when Ed starts showing off, he is supposed to be as fast as the vamps in underworld. Yeah, no way. None of them were that fast, even in the books.
The color was shitty, the editing was...I've seen a ten year old do about the same. Soundtrack was almost non-existent and horrible and cheesy when it was on.

Personally, all those screaming girls might think it's a great movie now, due to the fact that it's the "Twilight" movie, but in about 6 months they'll calm down and realize how horrible it truely was. Hopefully this will be before dvd and blue-ray sales go through the roof. Regretably, that's wishful thinking; we all know this movie is going to make big bucks on the dvds.

They should fire the entire cast and crew and make the movie again. The story and books might not be that good, but no movie deserves to be that bad. I feel sorry for it.


That's me rant

KingNikan
12-15-2008, 04:49 PM
HOLY SHIT.

I just watched Twilight finally and let me tell you; my sister and I are extremely glad that we found a source for a pirated dvd rather than pay $18 for tickets. I couldn't believe how awful that movie was. HORRIBLE. I wanted to claw my eyes out.

Could they have cast any people worse for that movie? Seriously, was there a sale at the bad actor mart or something? The dialogue; who wrote that? A third grader? Who was the hairdresser on that set, I'd like to know, most of the hair looked like she or he just took some glue and randomly shoved hair around.
The special effect were AWFUL. You could see the wires in some scenes, and in others (the ballet studio) you could actually see the ropes sag as they dragged the actors across the sets.

Continuity sucked, at the beginning you see a vamp chasing a deer. That scene must have lasted 45sec, way too long. However, when Ed starts showing off, he is supposed to be as fast as the vamps in underworld. Yeah, no way. None of them were that fast, even in the books.
The color was shitty, the editing was...I've seen a ten year old do about the same. Soundtrack was almost non-existent and horrible and cheesy when it was on.

Personally, all those screaming girls might think it's a great movie now, due to the fact that it's the "Twilight" movie, but in about 6 months they'll calm down and realize how horrible it truely was. Hopefully this will be before dvd and blue-ray sales go through the roof. Regretably, that's wishful thinking; we all know this movie is going to make big bucks on the dvds.

They should fire the entire cast and crew and make the movie again. The story and books might not be that good, but no movie deserves to be that bad. I feel sorry for it.


That's me rant
Yeah Re do the Movie Rewrite the Book Get the actors new Brains and maybe a good Director Hire me for the VFX and ill Do better

TreasureBox Films
12-15-2008, 04:50 PM
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/bum-reviews/2741-twilight

haha!

KingNikan
12-15-2008, 06:51 PM
Vitamn D lol

TreasureBox Films
12-15-2008, 06:56 PM
Pretentious..

Indymoguler
12-29-2008, 02:36 PM
ok guys, this is truly how scary this is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-turfrcQY-w&feature=channel_page

this chick is an obsessive bitch who literally is complaining about twilight and the other books. she scares me

movieman88
01-13-2009, 08:46 PM
I'm surprised your post was so short, you could go on all day about this. And a freaking twi-tard choked me in the bookstore after I said how the books were utter bull.

sirslapshot19
02-21-2009, 04:09 PM
http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/new-moon-logo.jpg

http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-puke-kitty-11x.jpg

TreasureBox Films
02-21-2009, 04:13 PM
ewwww....
and that cat is funny.

punkandska66
02-21-2009, 04:27 PM
I laughed at you when I read the title.

Now I'm covered in barf...

Marc-OS
02-21-2009, 04:31 PM
Last night + Alcohol = Thread title

....good times

evmo
02-21-2009, 06:59 PM
I laughed at you when I read the title.

Now I'm covered in barf...
qft me too

DOA Productions
02-21-2009, 08:51 PM
come on guys, you knew it was coming

MitchellStafiej
02-21-2009, 08:56 PM
I can't wait! I loved the first one, the second one is going to be even better!

I'm PUMPED

Mitch

Nonsensical studios
02-21-2009, 10:43 PM
I can't wait! I loved the first one, the second one is going to be even better!

I'm PUMPED

Mitch

Is it not opposite day today?

Fisherking
02-21-2009, 11:40 PM
It's nice to see Twilight has got such a devoted internet hatedom.

Though it is assuredly awful. Anything that can make me miss Stephen King is bad. It belongs just beneath The Da Vinci Code in the turgid sewer of bad literature.

Scott
02-21-2009, 11:55 PM
Wow, I think I'd rather pay to see that Jonas Brothers 3D concert movie than see any Twilight movie.

TreasureBox Films
02-22-2009, 12:04 AM
At least What's-his-Face-Edward isn't sucking in the fandom. He told off some girl-fans saying they want to have his babys.

Alasdair
02-22-2009, 06:13 AM
what's with all the hating on twilight, did you even watch that movie? shit was hilarious

VAMPYRE BASEBALL

Alasdair
02-22-2009, 06:17 AM
YO WE VAMPYRES WE HAVE ALL SUPERNATURAL POWERS AND SHIT

*drives everywhere for some reason*

DOA Productions
02-22-2009, 11:45 AM
What does supernatural powers have to to with driving everywhere? If you could read peoples minds would you walk everywhere?

The_Count
02-22-2009, 04:12 PM
If you could read peoples minds would you walk everywhere?

i can read peoples minds...


but its pointless cos im illiterate.



/mitch hedburg

operationivy5656
02-22-2009, 04:16 PM
What does supernatural powers have to to with driving everywhere? If you could read peoples minds would you walk everywhere?
vampires are supposed to be able to fly
so why would they need to drive
and scott was just seeing if everyone else wanted to see that jonas brothers movie as much as he does

Alasdair
02-22-2009, 06:44 PM
What does supernatural powers have to to with driving everywhere? If you could read peoples minds would you walk everywhere?

they can fly and run super fast

dancingchickenproductions
02-22-2009, 07:51 PM
I didn't see the first movie, but my mom and sister did. Apparently my mom actually started laughing in the middle, and not because a joke in the movie.
Just goes to show, you can never underestimate the absolute terribleness of Twilight...

jscott2250
02-22-2009, 07:54 PM
i'm in a glass tube
add projectile vomit
subtract the humanity
multiply the insanity
you get a fourteen year old kid incased in the worst form of torture in history

DOA Productions
02-22-2009, 10:03 PM
they can fly and run super fast
Running real fast isn't a supernatural power....and they cant fly.

sirslapshot19
02-23-2009, 12:25 AM
i'm in a glass tube
add projectile vomit
subtract the humanity
multiply the insanity
you get a fourteen year old kid incased in the worst form of torture in history

Delicious:ben:

Alasdair
02-23-2009, 05:27 AM
I wish I could remember some of the dialogue between the chick and the vampyre it was pretty hilariously bad

Running real fast isn't a supernatural power....and they cant fly.


you're defending why vampyres would need cars

think about that

Skycarl
02-23-2009, 06:29 AM
you're defending why vampyres would need cars

think about that

That could be justified if they live in LA.

Alasdair
02-23-2009, 06:32 AM
I don't get it, is LA full of vampyre slayers or something

Skycarl
02-23-2009, 06:34 AM
The old saying is " Nobody walks in LA". You figure they would want to fit in.

Kaygee
02-23-2009, 07:24 AM
Sure, running really fast isnt a superpower. When you can run so fast you can run up walls and trees on the other hand...

Fisherking
02-23-2009, 09:35 AM
It depends, of course, on how fast you run.

DOA Productions
02-23-2009, 10:34 AM
I never said it wasn't a superhuman ability, it just isn't supernatural. Supernatural is being able to talk to dead people or summoning weird looking demons from hell, stuff like that. And they drive everywhere because they're trying to fit in to normal society. It'd be a dead give away if they ran from home to school and everyone saw that it only took like 10 seconds.

jscott2250
02-23-2009, 04:14 PM
i see yur point
just because vampires like cocaine doesn't mean hollywood can rub it in their face.

Kaygee
02-23-2009, 05:33 PM
Why would a vampire go to school?

TheMightySeamus
02-23-2009, 05:39 PM
Why would a vampire go to school?

Looking for victims?

Marc-OS
02-23-2009, 05:49 PM
Vampires go to school so they can stare awkwardly at people all day.

Alasdair
02-23-2009, 06:22 PM
Why would a vampire go to school?

to pick up high school chicks apparently

KingNikan
02-23-2009, 08:27 PM
Why would a vampire go to school?
Pedophile
Idk?

Miten Soni
02-23-2009, 08:42 PM
vampires have no blood right, so how does cullen get it up?....just saying

jscott2250
02-24-2009, 08:38 AM
we hate twilight cuz it's a retarded chick flick with vampires who, as i remember, are supposed to be creatures of the night, and are supposed to be tough as steel.

Metcalfe
02-24-2009, 12:26 PM
The only thing that I hate more than Twilight is the fact that Christopher Lee hasn't gone on a blood rage and killed everyone involved in the film for destroying the Stokeresque image that used to spring to people's mind whenever someone said Vampyre/Vampire.>[

Miten Soni
02-24-2009, 01:48 PM
The only thing that I hate more than Twilight is the fact that Christopher Lee hasn't gone on a blood rage and killed everyone involved in the film for destroying the Stokeresque image that used to spring to people's mind whenever someone said Vampyre/Vampire.>[
agreed

MitchellStafiej
02-24-2009, 02:03 PM
Seriously why do you guys make fun of Twilight? It's probably my favourite piece of literature and film of all time...

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDQ2h4hrors) convinced me.

Mitch

KingNikan
02-24-2009, 04:51 PM
Seriously why do you guys make fun of Twilight? It's probably my favourite piece of literature and film of all time...

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDQ2h4hrors) convinced me.

Mitch
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Alasdair
02-24-2009, 06:22 PM
somebody post dialogue between the chick and the vampyre please it was amazing

it was somehow worse than the "sand" conversation between anakin and padme

ericslovechild
02-24-2009, 06:25 PM
it was somehow worse than the "sand" conversation between anakin and padme
That doesn't seem physically possible!

Alasdair
02-24-2009, 06:28 PM
at the end there was a meaningless (as in the story was all wrapped up) 20 second shot of a vampyrress walking down the stairs in slow motion DRAMATICALLY in b&w then there was a freeze frame and fade to credits

it was hilarious

I loved this movie

backyardhorrorfilms
02-24-2009, 11:14 PM
The movie sucked.

Wra1th13
02-25-2009, 03:57 PM
HAHA, some of the conversation between the two in this trailer is epic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Bbw3G_bxk&feature=related