Non-Linear?

[pinnaclestudioking]

what does non-linear mean?

[WesScog]

Non-Linear as in Non-Linear editors means you're not accessing the data in order.

You see Linear editors, like when you're cutting film together, means if you want to go to the shot where your hero pulls out the gun, you have to load the film into the editor and zoom to that section.

Non-Linear means that all of the data is in the system and can be access at the same time without the need to fast-forward or backup or load new film into the machine.

So accessing the final sene of the film should take the same amount of time as accessing the very first scene.

[Macaholic]

Wess is right. It's kinda like a Linear System is like a system devoted just to editing, like basically two screens and dials and nobs, while Non linear is final cut pro or avid. I started out on a linear system when i was about 12 at my dads work, but than moved to non linear.

[pinnaclestudioking]

Non-Linear as in Non-Linear editors means you're not accessing the data in order.

You see Linear editors, like when you're cutting film together, means if you want to go to the shot where your hero pulls out the gun, you have to load the film into the editor and zoom to that section.

Non-Linear means that all of the data is in the system and can be access at the same time without the need to fast-forward or backup or load new film into the machine.

So accessing the final sene of the film should take the same amount of time as accessing the very first scene.


okay thankyou.

Is there such thing as a linear editor?

[pinnaclestudioking]

Wess is right. It's kinda like a Linear System is like a system devoted just to editing, like basically two screens and dials and nobs, while Non linear is final cut pro or avid. I started out on a linear system when i was about 12 at my dads work, but than moved to non linear.

Is Pinnacle studio linear or non linear

[Macaholic]

non linear, software of any kind is non linear. You wont really run into any linear systems now a days.

[WesScog]

okay thankyou.

Is there such thing as a linear editor?

Yes, like I said in my original post.

Linear editors are how films have been cut for the majority of time that they've been cut.

You would literally take strips of actual film and tape, glue, or melt them together.

If they wanted to go to a scene so they could cut it out, or so they could cut something in, they'd have to manually move to that section.

Any kind of software editing is Non-Linear, physically taping the film together is linear.

Largely today, Non-Linear editing has eclipsed linear editing for the vast majority of films. All of the major studios now edit Non-Linearly.

They will take the film (if they shoot in 16mm or 35mm) and scan it into a computer at very high quality, then take those files and move them into a program (that is like Pinnacle in some ways but far more powerful) and using the files they will will edit it together.

THEN they'll take the edited digital video file, send that to a printing lab who will make 35mm copies of the edited film.

[WesScog]

non linear, software of any kind is non linear. You wont really run into any linear systems now a days.

Not unless maybe you shoot a film on 16mm and you're able to get time on an editing table.

[Macaholic]

Yes, like I said in my original post.

Linear editors are how films have been cut for the majority of time that they've been cut.

You would literally take strips of actual film and tape, glue, or melt them together.

If they wanted to go to a scene so they could cut it out, or so they could cut something in, they'd have to manually move to that section.

Any kind of software editing is Non-Linear, physically taping the film together is linear.

Largely today, Non-Linear editing has eclipsed linear editing for the vast majority of films. All of the major studios now edit Non-Linearly.

They will take the film (if they shoot in 16mm or 35mm) and scan it into a computer at very high quality, then take those files and move them into a program (that is like Pinnacle in some ways but far more powerful) and using the files they will will edit it together.

THEN they'll take the edited digital video file, send that to a printing lab who will make 35mm copies of the edited film.

indeed.

[Macaholic]

Not unless maybe you shoot a film on 16mm and you're able to get time on an editing table.

but would you actually want to edit on a Linear System? Like a moviola or a steinbeck? Just kinda seems much more restrictive?

[WesScog]

but would you actually want to edit on a Linear System? Like a moviola or a steinbeck? Just kinda seems much more restrictive?

I worked on a Steenbeck for several projects, and it is arduous, but it's great having that experience, it's very visceral getting to hold in your hands whats going to go up on the screen.

When you're having to cut it together by hand, you think a bit more carefully of your cuts and your takes, and I think it makes you a bit more efficient.

[Macaholic]

yeahh for a learning experience it definitely seems like something that would be good and make you a better editor, but i just wouldn't do it on a project with a deadline, but i see where your coming from

[google550]

When you're having to cut it together by hand, you think a bit more carefully of your cuts and your takes, and I think it makes you a bit more efficient.

It would be hell for me. It's an organizational nightmare - two seconds of film is about the length of your arm. When they say "drop it to the cutting room floor," you really don't - you save it in a folder with a paper clip.

[rrh]

My first editing experience was on a superbeta video cassette-based system, which could be even more restrictive than film editing.

[Fisherking]

but would you actually want to edit on a Linear System? Like a moviola or a steinbeck? Just kinda seems much more restrictive?

Interesting experience, but that's about the only advantage I can see. Linear editing is painful and it is only going to become less-and-less relevent (not that it's particularly relevent now).

[Green Hat Productions]

Is there any way to convert film to disc to put it into a non-linear system? and non-linear has this kid taken math or worked at a tv station!

[Macaholic]

Is there any way to convert film to disc to put it into a non-linear system? and non-linear has this kid taken math or worked at a tv station!

Thats how films are done, they convert the film into data, and than edit it on a non linear system. (usually in Avid)