Unschooling

[GhostOfAllie]

I pretty much have my heart set on unschooling after this school year is over. But I have decided to ask the opinions of those who I respect most, and connect with(you guys, congrats.). If anyone has an experience or tips, that would be greatly appreciated. Pros, cons, stories, advice, reasons against, any thing like that would rock.

[Citrus]

copied from wikipedia article on the matter.

Criticisms:
The following are common opinions and concerns of people who are critical of unschooling.

Most children lack the foresight to learn the things they will need to know in their adult lives.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Unspooling-14)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Objections-13)
There may be gaps in a child's education unless an educational professional controls what material is covered.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)
Because schools provide a ready-made source of peers, it may be more difficult for children who are not in school to make friends and develop social skills than it is for their schooled peers.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-autogenerated2-1)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Objections-13)
Because schools may provide a diverse group of both adults and students, it might be more difficult for children who are not in school to be directly exposed to different cultures, socio-economic groups and worldviews.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Objections-13)
Some children are not motivated to learn anything, and will spend all of their time in un-educational endeavors if not coerced into doing otherwise.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-16)
Not all parents may be able to provide the stimulating environment or have the skills and patience required to encourage the student's curiosity.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Unspooling-14)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)
Because they often lack a diploma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma) from an accredited school, it may be more difficult for unschooled students to get into college or get a job.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)
Children who direct their own educations may not develop the ability to take direction from others.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-autogenerated2-1)

[Nonsensical studios]

copied from wikipedia article on the matter.

Criticisms:
The following are common opinions and concerns of people who are critical of unschooling.
Most children lack the foresight to learn the things they will need to know in their adult lives.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Unspooling-14)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Objections-13)
There may be gaps in a child's education unless an educational professional controls what material is covered.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)
Because schools provide a ready-made source of peers, it may be more difficult for children who are not in school to make friends and develop social skills than it is for their schooled peers.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-autogenerated2-1)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Objections-13)
Because schools may provide a diverse group of both adults and students, it might be more difficult for children who are not in school to be directly exposed to different cultures, socio-economic groups and worldviews.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Objections-13)
Some children are not motivated to learn anything, and will spend all of their time in un-educational endeavors if not coerced into doing otherwise.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-16)
Not all parents may be able to provide the stimulating environment or have the skills and patience required to encourage the student's curiosity.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Unspooling-14)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)
Because they often lack a diploma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma) from an accredited school, it may be more difficult for unschooled students to get into college or get a job.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)
Children who direct their own educations may not develop the ability to take direction from others.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-autogenerated2-1)

I would say those are the biggest cons to Unschooling.

[Citrus]

I would say those are the biggest cons to Unschooling.
I agree because the ones that you didn't BOLD are things that kids who do unschooling probably don't have to worry about.I think kids who go through with it are educated enough about unschooling that they have some kind of plan and those cons wouldn't apply to them as much.

[GhostOfAllie]

Because schools may provide a diverse group of both adults and students, it might be more difficult for children who are not in school to be directly exposed to different cultures, socio-economic groups and worldviews.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Objections-13)
Some children are not motivated to learn anything, and will spend all of their time in un-educational endeavors if not coerced into doing otherwise.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-16)
Not all parents may be able to provide the stimulating environment or have the skills and patience required to encourage the student's curiosity.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Unspooling-14)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)
Because they often lack a diploma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma) from an accredited school, it may be more difficult for unschooled students to get into college or get a job.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)Well, for the first Bullet, it's not like I'm going to sit around and stay away from people all day. Not to mention I wouldn't call my school diverse at all. To the second bullet, part of the reason I am leaving high school is to pursue other things to learn and get a job, I have had a lot of offers relating to filmmaking(Going to New York work on and be in a movie, ect.), but instead I'm stuck learning things I will never ever use( I know that sounds cliche but really, I go to Chicago Ag, where I learn farm shit.) Third: My parents aren't home a lot, they may not be here enough to create a stimulating enviorment, but they aren't the only people I know, I have plenty of stimulating support to fall back on. Finally fourth bullet, my mothers friend unschooled her children, their all very intellegent and doing well. My very good friend Nora was unschooled, she got a job at fifteen, after a while became a tromette, started acting and doing special effects and attends college. She's only 19.

[Nonsensical studios]

Why don't you go to a different school if you don't your agricultural one?

[GhostOfAllie]

Because, the only reason I go to the Ag school is because the other public High Schools in my area are awful and I can't afford(or want to attend) private school.

[Mattageddon]

"Unschooling"? Isn't that usually called "dropping out"?

EDIT: Or are you getting a GED?

EDIT EDIT: IMO, you should at least try for a GED. It's better than nothing. Or maybe you could even move to an area that has more options. With the economy the way it is right now, I'm not sure you're going to find a job.

[Nonsensical studios]

"Unschooling"? Isn't that usually called "dropping out"?

EDIT: Or are you getting a GED?

EDIT EDIT: IMO, you should at least try for a GED. It's better than nothing. Or maybe you could even move to an area that has more options. With the economy the way it is right now, I'm not sure you're going to find a job.

As I understand it, it is basically a homeschooling philosophy.

[GhostOfAllie]

"Unschooling"? Isn't that usually called "dropping out"?


No, its not.



EDIT: Or are you getting a GED?



That was my plan.

[Alasdair]

from what I've read "unschooling" seems bloody retarded. Suck it up and finish high school and then go to community college and take a bunch of 101 classes that sound interesting.

unschooling sounds great if you're planning to be a housewife, not if you want to get a good education and go somewhere with your life

[Scott]

Because schools may provide a diverse group of both adults and students, it might be more difficult for children who are not in school to be directly exposed to different cultures, socio-economic groups and worldviews.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Objections-13)
Some children are not motivated to learn anything, and will spend all of their time in un-educational endeavors if not coerced into doing otherwise.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-16)
Not all parents may be able to provide the stimulating environment or have the skills and patience required to encourage the student's curiosity.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Unspooling-14)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)
Because they often lack a diploma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma) from an accredited school, it may be more difficult for unschooled students to get into college or get a job.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling#cite_note-Clayton-15)Well, for the first Bullet, it's not like I'm going to sit around and stay away from people all day. Not to mention I wouldn't call my school diverse at all. To the second bullet, part of the reason I am leaving high school is to pursue other things to learn and get a job, I have had a lot of offers relating to filmmaking(Going to New York work on and be in a movie, ect.), but instead I'm stuck learning things I will never ever use( I know that sounds cliche but really, I go to Chicago Ag, where I learn farm shit.) Third: My parents aren't home a lot, they may not be here enough to create a stimulating enviorment, but they aren't the only people I know, I have plenty of stimulating support to fall back on. Finally fourth bullet, my mothers friend unschooled her children, their all very intellegent and doing well. My very good friend Nora was unschooled, she got a job at fifteen, after a while became a tromette, started acting and doing special effects and attends college. She's only 19.

So "unschooling" is the same as home schooling, correct?

[Scott]

from what I've read "unschooling" seems bloody retarded. Suck it up and finish high school and then go to community college and take a bunch of 101 classes that sound interesting.

unschooling sounds great if you're planning to be a housewife, not if you want to get a good education and go somewhere with your life

I don't suggest the community college part. Especially not if you feel like you're already too fed up with school. You may just end up wasting your time and money there.

[GhostOfAllie]

My mom told me about a different type of homeschooling I might be trying.

[evmo]

you should try to get a job at "the billy goat tavern" then id come down just to see you or mabey get a job selling stuff at the cubbies games (although there might be some sexual harresment due to drunkerds"

[GhostOfAllie]

you should try to get a job at "the billy goat tavern" then id come down just to see you or mabey get a job selling stuff at the cubbies games (although there might be some sexual harresment due to drunkerds"

Although I'd love to see ya, I'm a Sox fan. =]

[evmo]

Although I'd love to see ya, I'm a Sox fan. =]


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[GhostOfAllie]

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[next-tarantino]

"Unschooling"? Isn't that usually called "dropping out"?


^ This... ^

from what I've read "unschooling" seems bloody retarded. Suck it up and finish high school and then go to community college and take a bunch of 101 classes that sound interesting.

unschooling sounds great if you're planning to be a housewife, not if you want to get a good education and go somewhere with your life

^ ... and this. ^


Just suck it up and finish school. Just being in school teaches you a few pertinent things about life (i.e. how to deal with idiots).

[Fisherking]

Sounds like a whole load of hippy-dippy bullshit.

There are many things that benefit from a formal education, and lots of things that don't: Learn how to pay bills and deal with banks at home; learn calculus at school. It seems to me that 'unschooling' is a massive confusion of these two categories.

Alasdair's comment about 'learning to be a housewife' seems especially pertinent.

[Skycarl]

Allie, don't do that. Later on you are going to really wish you
had not done that.
First, home schooling is tougher on the student and the parent.
It is very strict and five will get you ten that you won't like it.
GED, not as easy as some may think. People screw around for a
few years thinking they'll take it when they need it, find out it's
harder than they thought and end up giving up.
Job security for housewives is not what it use to be.

Like everyone else has said, just tough it out and do what you
have to do to graduate. It's a light responsibility compared to
what's ahead in the future. You can do it so just do it.

[KingNikan]

Yeah you want to Drop out right? Thats just Fucking Dumb. Get an education learn to deal with your problems dont give up.
Aldsair and Skycarl Summed it up

[ciwi286]

I gotta agree with the others. Dropping out is bad, m'kay? Tough it out and finish school. It may not seem worth it now but I bet youll regret dropping out in the future.

[GhostOfAllie]

NOT dropping out. I have ditched the unschooling idea after hearing your opinions and talking to my mom. I am probably going to end up homeschooling after this year, though. Once again, NOT dropping out.

[MitchellStafiej]

NOT dropping out. I have ditched the unschooling idea after hearing your opinions and talking to my mom. I am probably going to end up homeschooling after this year, though. Once again, NOT dropping out.
Yeah dropping out would've been a terrible idea. The drop out rates are so high and you'd just fall right into that statistic.

Education is good...

Mitch

[Nonsensical studios]

Yeah dropping out would've been a terrible idea. The drop out rates are so high and you'd just fall right into that statistic.

Education is good...

Mitch

Is that a sarcastic ellipsis?

[MitchellStafiej]

Is that a sarcastic ellipsis?
Nah it really wasn't.

Mitch

[evmo]

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[GhostOfAllie]

I love the Sox! Cubs suck!


Glad we see eye to eye.

[evmo]

Glad we see eye to eye.
ah i see you did there come on join the blue side weve got cookies and harry cary