I need someone who is good with after effects [Archive]

ciwi286

04-03-2009, 07:48 PM

I would try, but I might not have internet connection over the next few days.

If the car so happens to be at the right angle THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv39a8efw88) might help (Use keepvid.com to download it and contrast it if the youtube codecs mess with it)

Brainstrained

04-03-2009, 08:05 PM

Even if it takes until wednesday, if anyone can make a realistic car bomb in after effects I would owe you big time.

Come on, anyone?

snicket

04-03-2009, 08:51 PM

Even if it takes until wednesday, if anyone can make a realistic car bomb in after effects I would owe you big time.

Come on, anyone?
It would be kinda hard to do that in After Effects. But Send me a PM for my email I can try it out.

17thletterfilms

04-03-2009, 10:17 PM

Brainstrained,
I fooled around with some tests, they aren't the greatest, they're on my YouTube channel. Check 'em out and see if they're even close to what you're looking for.

Brainstrained

04-03-2009, 10:32 PM

I saw those, they were o.k., not great, but at this point I am desperate.

I have a clip of a guy walking away from a car. I need the car to explode, and I want the explosion to be at it's peak on the very last frame of the clip (i am gonna use it as a freezeframe for the end of the movie)

so basically I need a half second decent looking explosion, and the very last frame has to have only the guy in the foreground and the explosion in the background.

Is that possible at all? How much time do you need?

17thletterfilms

04-03-2009, 10:34 PM

Couldn't you just use Detonation Films?
I mean, that's what I'd end up doing. I'd mask the car and separate it so that it could be chopped up into pieces or chunks or whatever, and then I'd add the explosion. Wouldn't it be easier to just overlay an explosion?

snicket

04-04-2009, 10:56 AM

bobaandy1

04-04-2009, 05:52 PM

I''ll gladly do it. I'll go PM you my reel.

Brainstrained

04-04-2009, 07:53 PM

http://rapidshare.com/files/217182059/carbomb.mpg.html

this is the file, I'll just put it here so anyone who wants to try it can. I will use the best one.

I also have a bunch of other stuff I need done, muzzle flashes, and a few touchups, if you guys would help me with that I'll upload it as soon as I can.

Thanks a ton.

Brainstrained

04-04-2009, 08:51 PM

http://rapidshare.com/files/217529185/glasses.mpg.html

This is a clip of a guy putting on sunglasses. I need the reflection of the camera removed from the lense of the sunglasses if it is possible.

http://rapidshare.com/files/217531380/picture.mpg.html

This is a clip of a glass picture frame breaking. We shot the picture frame with a bb gun to make it break and I'm very happy with the way it turned out, but I want it to look more realistic. Basically it needs a black hole put right in the middle of where the glass broke. Watch the clip and you'll see what I mean.

http://rapidshare.com/files/217536387/Export_2.mpg.html

This is a clip of a guy walking. I just need someone to add the two circles to make it look as though the guy is being watched through binoculars. You know, like this:http://thethunderchild.com/Movies/1955/ItCameBeneathSea/Photos/Octopus/squidthrbinocs.JPG

If you can make them look all high tech and shit, that would be really cool too.

Thanks.

Fisherking

04-04-2009, 09:02 PM

http://rapidshare.com/files/217182059/carbomb.mpg.html

this is the file, I'll just put it here so anyone who wants to try it can. I will use the best one.

The shot is like a second-and-a-half long. Sure you couldn't give just a little bit more?

Brainstrained

04-04-2009, 09:29 PM

sure; it's uploading now.

Brainstrained

04-04-2009, 09:39 PM

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KPKZR404

Brainstrained

04-04-2009, 11:01 PM

http://rapidshare.com/files/217558235/Export.mpg.html

This is a bunch of clips that need muzzle flashes.

Also, if anyone does end up doing this for me, when you send it back, make sure it is at the same quality I sent it as or else I can't use it. Thanks so much guys.

Fisherking

04-05-2009, 08:31 AM

Okay, about the car-bomb.

I'm going to be a total cunt here, but I'm going to be a total cunt for your own good.

It's not impossible to do it. I'm not going to do it for the reason that you've made it incredibly difficult to do any compositing. It's incredibly difficult because you didn't plan it properly.

You move the camera. This wouldn't be a problem except for the fact that you have not lit the background at all. There are no good tracking marks because everything is a uniform grey colour.

The actor passes over the entire shot and, towards the end, takes up half the frame. This is going to mean you'll need two or three seperate sets of tracking points.

The lighting on the actor is no better than the background. He is not isolated from the background. It's difficult to tell where he ends and the background begins. You'd have to rotoscope the guy out, but that becomes almost impossible when you can't actually find the outlines of his body.

Adding this explosion would not be impossible, but frankly it's more effort than I'm willing to spend. It would take me hours to overcome what would have taken you minutes to fix on set.

Take this as a lesson: Have a dedicated compositor and get his input on the shots. If you shoot in a hodge-podge style, you risk making shots significantly more difficult to deal with in post.

Brainstrained

04-05-2009, 05:41 PM

Yeah man, that's why I sent only a really short clip the first time. The short one does have 2 good tracking points (the headlight of the car and the largest tree out the back window of the parking garage on the left side)

I literally need the explosion to only be as long as that clip, quick and dirty, just so long as the last frame looks good because the last frame will be a freezeframe for the ending of my movie. I dunno if I explained that good enough..

Thanks for taking the effort to look at the clip

koradin

04-05-2009, 10:10 PM

I was bored and there was nothing on the TV, so I thought I’d have a go at the car bomb. Sadly I don’t have after effects so it’s just quick and simple masking and a fair bit of roto.

With regards to the quality, the software I use will only work with avi/mov so I had to convert it and when I converted back to mpg, I couldn’t get it to save as 80k bit rate like your original clip so its at 25k instead. Also for some reason the length of the clip went from 1.568 to 1.701 seconds.

You can find the clip at http://www.vimeo.com/4019277 (I uploaded it over 3 hours ago and its still says 1 min to go before it’s converted, hopefully it will be ready when you next read this tread). If it’s no good then am sure someone else on here will be able to do the shot for you.

Koradin

Fisherking

04-06-2009, 12:24 AM

I'll probably do the muzzle flashes, as I am pretty bored.

It looks like they're all different shots depicting the same event. Do you want flashes on all of them or just the one most suitable?

I was thinking of doing the shot from the back and whatever front-shot suits best.

Brainstrained

04-06-2009, 12:30 AM

I need a muzzle flash on each different shot; the guy gets shot a bunch of times, but for the ones that are almost exactly the same (i know there are some that are the same distance from the gun), only do the one that doesn't have me in the reflection of the glasses lol...

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it.

Koradin, vimeo still isnt working for me but thanks for the effort. I will try it again tomorrow.

koradin

04-06-2009, 06:22 AM

Looks like vimeo is messed up for a lot of people, many are experiencing 6+ hours for videos to convert. A lot of people think it being done on purpose to push people into paying to become vimeo plus members.

I've uploaded the clip separately, right click and save as on this link (http://www.koradin.f2s.com/carbomb - Effects.mpg). By the way I used the first clip you posted and the explosion starts on the first frame and ends on the last like you asked.

Koradin

Samsote

04-06-2009, 11:15 AM

http://rapidshare.com/files/217182059/carbomb.mpg.html

I also have a bunch of other stuff I need done, muzzle flashes, and a few touchups, if you guys would help me with that I'll upload it as soon as I can.

Thanks a ton.

I can help you with every thing you need. Just upload all the footage and give me the link to were i can download it and ill make it for you.

koradin

04-06-2009, 12:13 PM

17 hours later and the clip finally works, vimeo must have been having some serious problems. Clip is at http://www.vimeo.com/4019277 although it doesn't seem to play the last few frames, but the downloaded clip plays fine.

Koradin

Brainstrained

04-06-2009, 03:31 PM

I can help you with every thing you need. Just upload all the footage and give me the link to were i can download it and ill make it for you.

The links to the rest of the footage have been posted already

Koradin, I like it so far, but would it be possible to completely obliderate the car? The whole front end of it is still sort of in one piece by the end of the clip. Also, Anything you can do about his hair? Thanks.

nooneimportant77

04-06-2009, 04:21 PM

I'm not doing anything for a few hours, and haven't worked on any effects in a long time, I'll take a shot at the car bomb, but I can't promise anything.

Skycarl

04-06-2009, 04:40 PM

Brain, I know it sounds like a lot of work, but to do that
right you may want to re-shoot that scene.
First, the guy is way to close to a car that is going to explode
into pieces eh? The concussion would blow him into the camera
like a rocket. Just a couple of ideas,------

Shoot the corner of the garage from more of a distance without
the talent or car there. Then shoot just the car.

Then, if possible, shoot the talent walking toward the camera
with a green screen behind following if you can.
If you had a compressed air bottle or a shop vac with the hose
reversed to blow out air, and blew it at the back of your
talent would help make the effect.

Just some ideas that would give someone the tools to make you
a great car explosion scene for your project.

Brainstrained

04-06-2009, 05:07 PM

Well, it isn't a huge priority that the piece of the car fly across the screen or anything, I just want it to look good, if the fire from the explosion covers the car completely I'm fine with that, I just want the last frame to look good.

I would do all that stuff, and I will def. plan it out a lot better next time but we have already reshot that scene once and my actor has gotten a haircut :S

Thanks for the compressed air tip, great idea!

koradin

04-06-2009, 07:51 PM

Koradin, I like it so far, but would it be possible to completely obliderate the car? The whole front end of it is still sort of in one piece by the end of the clip. Also, Anything you can do about his hair? Thanks.

I could alter the clip so that the car is completely covered by fire and can't be seen by the time it gets the to last shot.

With regards to the hair it takes a ridiculous amount of time to mask every last tuft of hair, hence my previous comment about the masking being quick and simple, except for the last frame which is a bit more detailed. Sadly I don't have enough spare time to do the level of masking that is needed on every frame.

It is a pity you can't re-shoot using green screen like Skycarl suggested, next time tell you actor not to cut his hair :)

Also if you ever do anything like this again and can not use a green screen and need something placing behind and actor, get them to wear a hat or at least have a sensible hair style that is easy to mask :p

Koradin

nooneimportant77

04-06-2009, 09:23 PM

Ok, here's what the final frame looks like in my edit, if you like it I can send you a movie of the effects with an alpha channel, sometime tomorrow, and you can just drop it over the footage.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8828/picture5fgz.png

Brainstrained

04-06-2009, 09:30 PM

Can it be bigger? And all around him?

And if you say that's what she said I'm not gonna laugh... ha.

Brainstrained

04-07-2009, 09:37 PM

Okay, so if anyone is still wanting to do these clips for me, could you just say which one you are doing and when it will be done? I just wanna know so that I can do the ones that aren't getting done.

Fisherking

04-08-2009, 12:55 AM

I've done like... three of the gun shots. I think there's one more.

Fisherking

04-09-2009, 12:00 AM

Done. How do you want me to export this stuff? Usually I just do it as a straight image-sequence, but unfortunately size is going to be somewhat of a problem.

Brainstrained

04-09-2009, 07:59 AM

Just the same as what I sent it as if you can...

Thanks a lot Fisherking.

Brainstrained

04-09-2009, 05:22 PM

Here's the exact settings...:

NTSC MPEG 2 1440x1080i at the highest possible bitrate.

Fisherking

04-09-2009, 07:47 PM

Just dealing with my limited palette of export possibilities on AE, the best result I'm getting is a full-res run on H.264.

Now, I don't like using this sort of compression on supposedly raw footage, but this is the only way I'm able to get a file of passable size. I think it'll be fine, especially if you're going for internet screening.

Are you going to be happy with that?

Fisherking

04-09-2009, 09:33 PM

Well, here's a RAR file with the shots.

On a lot of the shots, he only pulls the trigger right towards the end, so we really don't see much of the gun-fire before we cut away. I actually altered so we digitally pull his finger back. It works... alright.

See how it works for you, anyway: http://rapidshare.com/files/219500658/Gunfire.RAR.html

I do have a gunfire sound on there that I got off the freesound project. You'll probably want to change it. It was kind of hard to gauge how it looked without sound, so I edited it to some guy's shot sound-effect. They're all exactly the same sound.