INDYMOGUL ON WIKIPEDIA

[indy42]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indy_Mogul

But quick- it might be deleted- so edit it to make it more important! Time is running out!...

[GhostOfAllie]

Ahhh!

[davbo123]

hmmm

it looks pretty bare at the moment, and has apparently been nominated for 'Speedy deletion"

[Scott]

Whoever started it should have given more time and work on it.

[WesScog]

I've already linked it with Fred's article, and a link to New New Networks.

Everyone hurry and contribute some detail we're missing.

[toxicvarn90]

Too late, apparently your not important enough or relavent to the world indy mogul.

[WesScog]

The Article is still up. It's not deleted yet. Lets all contribute something and keep it up.

[WesScog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indy_Mogul

I changed the URL, because on the front page, Indy Mogul is two words, and there is a space between them, so the original article is still the same, but now it re-directs to Indy Mogul even if you type in Indymogul.

[WesScog]

Wait, question, is Indy Mogul supposed to be spelt Indy Mogul, or IndyMogul?

Because on the front page over on the left bar, it's spelt Indy Mogul guide. Also, in the title on the page, it's broken up in the logo.

But on the Forum links section it's 'IndyMogul Forums'.

[SyxxGage]

Wait, question, is Indy Mogul supposed to be spelt Indy Mogul, or IndyMogul?

On the About page, it's consistently listed as Indy Mogul. It includes the space between the words. Plus, the logo itself is broken up, without a hyphen, thereby suggesting two seperate words.

[FyceDesigns]

On the About page, it's consistently listed as Indy Mogul. It includes the space between the words. Plus, the logo itself is broken up, without a hyphen, thereby suggesting two seperate words.
Grammar is power!

If I had a Wikipedia account, I'd totally add chunks of info to that article. Maybe I'll get one later...

-Fyce

[WesScog]

Ok, they deleted the article again.

Here is the article that I just reposted.

"Indy Mogul is an [[Internet]] network consisting of three weekly shows that air on the website, [http://ww.indymogul.com IndyMogul.com] and [http://www.youtube.com/user/indymogul YouTube.com] among others, as part of [[Fred Seibert]] and [[Herb Scannell]]'s [http://www.nextnewnetworks.com/ Next New Networks] block of internet programming, alongside [[Channel Frederator]], [http://www.vodcars.com/ VODCars], [http://www.fastlanedaily.com/ FastLaneDaily], [http://www.threadbanger.com/ ThreadBanger], and other niche networks.
==Indy Mogul==
The Indy Mogul is a Channel on Next New Networks that focuses on various components of Independent Film Making. Providing instructions on many special effects and props that are inexpensively made, to valuable information about film making in general.
Backyard F/X every Monday.
Q and Erik every Thursday
Weekend Extra Every Friday
==Backyard FX==
Backyard FX (or BFX) is the original show for IndyMogul, hosted by Erik Beck. BFX shows how to create inexpensive [[special effects]]. The first episode was uploaded on May 15, 2007. It was originally produced in [[Oakland, California]], before moving to [[New York City]] in August 2007. It airs weekly on Mondays.
Subjects covered by BFX are chosen democratically from viewer requests, and produced for under $50. Budgets are chosen by a spin of the "Wheel of Prosperity".
Justin Johnson introduced [[Next New Networks]] to a pilot episode created by his friend Erik Beck, [[Next New Networks]] agreed to pick up the series and a contract was signed to create more episodes.
==The Wheel of Prosperity==
Every episode (with a few exceptions) has Erik or his puppet Gary spin the wheel of Prosperity to determine the budget for that week's special effect.
==Weekend Extra==
Weekend Extra is another show explaining how to do inexpensive special effects, hosted by Steve Nelson. It features more technical aspects of independent filmmaking, such as lighting, sound, editing, and camera operation. Weekend Extra also features tutorials sent in by IndyMogul viewers. It airs weekly on Fridays.
The first episodes were created in-house by Alan Kaufman and Jared Roessler. Steve Nelson is now in charge of the content that Weekend Extra distributes. Alan Kaufman and Jared Roessler are employees of Next New Networks and occasionally contribute material/ideas/footage/projects to Weekend Extra.
==Q and Erik==
Q and Erik is a question and answer format show hosted by Erik Beck, answering questions asked by the viewers. It airs weekly on Thursdays.
== External links ==
* [http://www.indymogul.com/ Indy Mogul]
* [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=IndyMogul Indy Mogul's Official YouTube Page]
* [http://www.myspace.com/indymogul Indy Mogul's Official MySpace Page]
* [http://www.nextnewnetworks.com/ Next New Network, Distributes Indy Mogul and a variety of other Internet based niche Channels.]"

[Cosmic Hamster Productions]

Hi its still awsome that indymogul are on wikipedia!

[WesScog]

YES! I saved the article!

I explained to them that Channel Frederator also got a article, AND that we wer ementioned in the Wall Street Journal, and they dropped the deletion!

We're there permanently!

[indy42]

How can I get a picture of the Indymogul logo (the one with the animated Erik and Gary, preferrably) and upload it to Wikipedia?

[WesScog]

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1407/logocopyki7.jpg

[ciwi286]

I think he meant this one

http://podstation.co.kr/bbs/data/videopodcasting/1180360717/q.jpg

[indy42]

I meant you have to list the copyright info on the pictures. Anybody know what they are?

[Reverend Doodle]

Dude
It says Justin is an open homosexual.

[uhrisuh]

i fixed it ..

[WesScog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indy_Mogul&action=history

What idiot didn't realize that all changes are LOGGED?

Vandelize the Article, we know who and where you are and can get Wikipedia to block you from touching the article again.

[uhrisuh]

ooohhhh who was it??

[justin]

DAMN, I love love love the episode guide!

[justin]

YES! I saved the article!

I explained to them that Channel Frederator also got a article, AND that we wer ementioned in the Wall Street Journal, and they dropped the deletion!

We're there permanently!
Wes you're the KING!!!

[WesScog]

ooohhhh who was it??

Not sure yet, but we can figure it out by isolating legitimate entries that we know of.

[uhrisuh]

lets get 'em wes .. you hold them down .. and i'll punch them ..

[Pete359]

Just an idea, I'm not sure how to do it, but what about in the episode guide table on the far right have a thin column for the cost of each featured effect?

[Erik Beck]

Everyone who is helping THANK YOU!!!!! The wiki article is AMAZING!

Can someone add links to each episode guide to the corresponding episode on Indy Mogul? You will receive 58 mogul bucks!

[indy42]

I just started adding links.

Can I get some mogul bucks?

[ericslovechild]

C'mon Erik, I gave up doing homework for a whole day to add that episode guide, don't I get any mogul bucks? :'(

[indy42]

Yes! I finished all the links!

[WesScog]

Fantastic! Thats awesome!

[Pete359]

Cool but it's cluttered the layout up a bit, how about making the episode titles the links?

Just a suggestion, good work though.

[WesScog]

Thats what I was thinking, but it would be real easy to change it now that all of the links are on there.

[WesScog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indy_Mogul#Episode_Guide

Just finished consolidating the list.

[Erik Beck]

C'mon Erik, I gave up doing homework for a whole day to add that episode guide, don't I get any mogul bucks? :'(

You have just been awarded 67 mogul bucks! Congratulations!
:D

[Pete359]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indy_Mogul#Episode_Guide

Just finished consolidating the list.

Wes you LEGEND!

This article is getting better and better!! Maybe some logos and images next? I'll happily take some screens and upload pics here for people to edit it, just say what you want!

[ericslovechild]

My life is complete! :D

[WesScog]

A user removed the episode guide, but thankfully I was able to recover it.

[uhrisuh]

can you ban the IP?

i put the list back up.

it was Irishguy who did the deletion

[WesScog]

I don't know why he removed it, I wonder if Wikipedia has some kind of rule against episode guides that are too long or something?

[uhrisuh]

I can't find a TOS. But i doubt that would be a rule. maybe the guy just wanted to be mean.

[uhrisuh]

The episode list keeps getting taken off because it has links in it. apparently thats a bad thing. can anyone redo what we had there without the links to the episodes??

[uhrisuh]

I don't mean to triple post but The article may be deleted soon if we don't put up more reliable sources, establish notability, link it to related topics, and put more sources up.

Please HELP!!!!!!!!!!

[Steve Nelson]

Here are some articles:
http://www.thedailyreel.com/videos/blood-squirting-gunshot-effect
http://newteevee.com/?s=odeo

[Steve Nelson]

Maybe add something like:

"While shooting the "Swamp Monster" episode of Backyard FX, the Indy Mogul team was followed around by Yahoo! News' Kevin Sites for an upcoming episode of his online news show, "People of the Web. The episode is expected to air in early 2008."

http://potw.news.yahoo.com/

[IrishDrummer7707]

it was Irishguy who did the deletion


uhhh.................NO RELATION TO ME.

[justin]

They can take our wikipedia article, but they can never take ... our freedom!! (actually, forget that - they can't take our article either!)

[farion]

I did a little perfectionist-like work on there =P But, for the episode guide, couldn't we do something like, for example, this? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Good_Eats_episodes) You'll probably have to make a whole new article, and I don't know how you'd stop it from getting deleted, but I think that's how it would be done.

[Bryguy]

cool wikipedia article keep up the good work.

[klick123]

I'll try that Episode list like farion suggested.

I'll make a list with each episode in order of air date but how else should I organize it.

I have the table as so:
Title -- Air Date -- Topic

Topic bieng make-up, props, etc.

[ericslovechild]

I'll try that Episode list like farion suggested.

I'll make a list with each episode in order of air date but how else should I organize it.

I have the table as so:
Title -- Air Date -- Topic

Topic bieng make-up, props, etc.
Don't. I spent hours working on an episode guide, only to have Wikipedia repeatedly take it down.

[Erik Beck]

I think they took it down because of all the links. Maybe if it doesn't have links it will stay up???

Would be cool to have one in order of air date.

[klick123]

Seriously?

Hell. Why would they do that?

Can I just copy the forum post
http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=14795
into the original article?

I'm gonna try that but keep it organized.

In the mean time I'll continue what I'm doing and see if it works.

NOTE: I'm saving all I do into a seperate .txt document in case they do take down the page, then I can still re-post it into the original IM page.

[klick123]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indy_Mogul

Spent some time fixing the page up.
-Added (A lot of) Citations
-Added that "Episode List" page. It has all of the first season episodes and the "Best Short Films in the World" episode in its own category. Episodes are in order of Air Date.
-Added "Noteworthy Mogulers" section.
-Seperated "In the Film Industry" and added "In the Media"
-Edited some other sections (Not terribly; mainly punctuation and organization)

Hope you like it if you decide to go check it out. Please feel free to add or edit anything I may have missed. I still need to create the episode lists for "Q & Erik", "BFX Weekend Extra", and "4-Minute Film School."
There are also a few citations that still need to be found under "Backyard FX." Please fix them if you have solid proof. I will keep looking but I'm having a bit of a difficult time.

Thank you for contributing if you choose to do so. Please help us to keep this page!

-Klick

Note: If they decide to take it down I have the code so I can just put it back up.

[glmclainmovies]

Fuck. I'm not noteworthy yet. I WILL be when I reveal my secret project to yall though

[klick123]

Sorry! I had quite a list of people to choose from.
You were on it, though.

[glmclainmovies]

Don't worry. I'm really not noteworthy YET. But like I said when I release my project to Mogulville I'll be on there...

[WesScog]

Good job Klick! Nice expansion!

[Jonny_McBane]

I think that the "Noteworthy Mogulers" -section is a bit too much. It kinda pushes the neutral state of the page a bit back.

[Nonsensical studios]

I agree, Instead of Noteworthy Mogulers, do a Hall Of Fame Winners table.

(Sorry Citrus!)

[speekerphone]

HEY! my names up there. cool.

[klick123]

Ok,
I was planning on adding a "Hall of Fame" section to the episode list.

I can see where neutrality may become an issue so it might be better if I just moved it all into a "Hall of Fame" section. If no one objects, though, I'm thinking about keeping the list from "Erik Beck" to "Wesley Scoggins" and the two Interns at the end and re-naming the section to be those who run Indy Mogul. I don't think that should be a problem.

EDIT: Created "Hall Of Fame" section.
EDIT2:Finished "Q&Erik" episode guide and all of the fesivals.

[klick123]

Thank you to whoever added Texabyte, I had a hell of a time trying to find him but eventually gave up.

EDIT: I edited the Texabyte section. I have the feeling he put it on there himself. Don't know what to do with it. I think I'll move it somewhere else.

[klick123]

Hey!

I just checked the Indy Mogul Wikipedia page.

They removed all of their warnings! The page is safe!

I thought this was really cool.

[NMP50]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFBDn5PiL00

[loosechange]

It's lame that wikipedia will let anyone edit pages sometiems tho.

I was looking around on wikipedia when I found out that Francis Ford Copolla, the director of The Godfather movies if ya didn't know, is Nicolas Cage's ouncle. Whichw as weird o think about, but anyways nicolas Cage's wikipedia page was just straight retarded cuz someone spent their time messing up the page.

Theres a ton of articles on wikipedia that are great. an article on Indy mogul is a sick idea.

[punkandska66]

Did anyone notice the random "Texabyte" floating around in that Wiki?

[Nonsensical studios]

I added a warning about ol' tex...

[klick123]

Did anyone notice the random "Texabyte" floating around in that Wiki?

Yeah, I think he added it himself. I edited it down, though. It was both (very) inaccurate and talked badly about other mogulers.

I added a warning about ol' tex...

Sorry, apparently he and Ciwi were deleted from the "Hall of Fame" list for not actually being inducted. The list didn't say they were, though. I guess it makes sense, but it's still annoying.

How does a history section sound? That way we can mention things like Texabyte and good things other mogulers have done without sounding biased (we can try, at least).

[_ray_biddle_]

That's great! Nice job Klick123.

[xsanmdanx]

Subjects covered by Backyard FX are chosen democratically from viewer requests[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)], and produced for under $50[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]. Man I love wikipedia[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)].

[TreasureBox Films]

I found this on wikipedia like2 months ago.

[Mattageddon]

Texabyte a member of the forums that is constanty harrased by speekerphone and is the smartest person I know


Anybody wanna change it back?

[Jcg64]

I deleted that

[Mattageddon]

I deleted that


It came back... he's behind it... clearly.

[Jcg64]

It came back... he's behind it... clearly.
I'll try reporting it, I guess. Who is this guy? I hear he's an infamous banee.

[Mattageddon]

I'll try reporting it, I guess. Who is this guy? I hear he's an infamous banee.

Yeah. He's an infamous banee. A troll if you will. I wasn't here when he was around. So, I don't know the story. By my thoughts I don't think it'd be a goo idea to bring it up in a thread... so if you really wanna know you might be able to PM one of the members who's been here for a while.

Some say he's still lurking these boards under the 'guise of different names.

[TheMightySeamus]

I checked the page, noticed Texabyte put his name in the staff section, so I deleted him from that section. When I checked the page, the staff box had moved to the bottom of the page.
Anyone know how to fix this?

[TreasureBox Films]

it says for $50 or less. now you have to change it to $100 or less.

[harveytwoface999]

That's what I hate about Wikipedia's "anyone can edit" policy - "anyone can edit."

[klick123]

I need to try and get that episode list done tomorrow/today...

[klick123]

The "Episode List" page is now complete and fully up-to-date.

If anyone wants to go and check it over for me, just to make sure I didn't miss anything, that would be great.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indy_Mogul_Episodes

[CR-Videos.co.nr]

Yeah,WesScog is has a point.It can be spelt both ways.On youtube it says Indy Mogul,The Indy Mogul Blog

(http://www.indymogul.com/blog) is what the blog is exactly called,on the limited edition baseball tee t-shirts its spelt indymogul so I'm thinking you can spell it anyway .

(http://www.indymogul.com/blog)

[Mattageddon]

Texabyte is back on it. When will it stop?!

[TheMightySeamus]

Guys: The staff box is in the external links section. I was deleting Texabyte from it and now it's down there. I don't know how to fix it. Can someone work on it?

[Vaughn Whynot]

Guys: The staff box is in the external links section. I was deleting Texabyte from it and know it's down there. I don't know how to fix it. Can someone work on it?
why mess around with it if you don't know what your doing

[TheMightySeamus]

why mess around with it if you don't know what your doing
I've edited Wikipedia before and I didn't know this would happen.

[Vaughn Whynot]

yeah i looked at it
and i couldn't make sense of it either
more that that when editing it you don't have the opition of changing things places on it
but i might be wrong

[Radstrike]

Guys: The staff box is in the external links section. I was deleting Texabyte from it and now it's down there. I don't know how to fix it. Can someone work on it?

Wow baby. You sure did a number on it didn't you. It all looks like it should be working, but something is seriously wrong.

[Radstrike]

FIXED! HA!

I checked it out and spent about 30min testing stuff, in the end the main problem was a missing "}", so I fixed that and a few other things. Unless someone screws it up, that should be it. Oh, and I removed texabyte from the list, so no need to do anything about that for a few hours.

[TheMightySeamus]

Thanks! I actually realized that around 11 last night...but Sin City was on.

[LukBuk]

Indy got on WIkipedia!