Canon HG20 vs. JVC GZ-HD40

[DarkForestFilms]

hey,
i was wondering which would be better to get, the HG20, or the GZ-HD40?

thanks

edit- also, do they come with the battery and charger from B&H?

[sonnyfromda02]

I'd say the JVC, but that's the camera I use so of course I'd say JVC, although, I had a chance to play with the Canon HF S10, which was a pretty nice camera. Considering I paid $1400 for my GZ-HD40, I would have bought the HF S10 if it were out at the time.

[DarkForestFilms]

the JVC is only $650 now.
they both are around $650

[sonnyfromda02]

the JVC is only $650 now.
they both are around $650
The GZ-HD7 and HD6 are also nice cameras that you may be able to get cheaper since the HD40 replaced them. They are 3CCD, the HD40 is CMOS.

[DarkForestFilms]

The GZ-HD7 and HD6 are also nice cameras that you may be able to get cheaper since the HD40 replaced them. They are 3CCD, the HD40 is CMOS.
would i be able to remove that cheasy lens hood it has, and put a wide angle lens on it? also, does it have a mic input?

I think i'll maybe think about getting the HD7, instead. The only bad thing is that it's only 60gb hard drive. the hd40 has a 120gb hard drive
does the HD7 have a port that you can put the camera on when putting video into the computer?
I think I might just go with the HD40 though, bigger hard drive!


thanks

[WesScog]

HD40 (http://www.amazon.com/JVC-GZ-HD40-Definition-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B001CBPVJG):
PROS:
Higher possible max Bitrate for MPEG-TS mode.
Potentially less compression artifacts in said mode.

CONS:
No Optical Image Stabilization.
No other frame rates.
Can't adjust the shutter and aperture at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ0xRHqTgdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDHRwDej7d4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vtwO8Pb3jk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyt4XdRx-Fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ0xRHqTgdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrG6qb9eWXE


HG20 (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-VIXIA-AVCHD-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B001DTTCQA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1248634182&sr=8-1):
PROS:
Higher resolution sensor.
Sharper video.
60i/30p/24p modes.
Can adjust aperture and shutter at same time.
Optical Image Stabilization.

CONS:
Lower max potential bitrate (although if you film in 24P mode, the bitrate should be equal to the max possible bitrate of the JVC.)


http://www.vimeo.com/2604257
http://www.vimeo.com/2162150
http://www.vimeo.com/2506630
http://www.vimeo.com/2107025
http://www.vimeo.com/1958837
http://www.vimeo.com/1976487
http://www.vimeo.com/1938339
http://www.vimeo.com/2108282
http://www.vimeo.com/2381845

[DarkForestFilms]

HD40 (http://www.amazon.com/JVC-GZ-HD40-Definition-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B001CBPVJG):
PROS:
Higher possible max Bitrate for MPEG-TS mode.
Potentially less compression artifacts in said mode.

CONS:
No Optical Image Stabilization.
No other frame rates.
Can't adjust the shutter and aperture at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ0xRHqTgdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDHRwDej7d4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vtwO8Pb3jk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyt4XdRx-Fk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ0xRHqTgdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrG6qb9eWXE


HG20 (http://www.amazon.com/Canon-VIXIA-AVCHD-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B001DTTCQA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1248634182&sr=8-1):
PROS:
Higher resolution sensor.
Sharper video.
60i/30p/24p modes.
Can adjust aperture and shutter at same time.
Optical Image Stabilization.

CONS:
Lower max potential bitrate (although if you film in 24P mode, the bitrate should be equal to the max possible bitrate of the JVC.)


http://www.vimeo.com/2604257
http://www.vimeo.com/2162150
http://www.vimeo.com/2506630
http://www.vimeo.com/2107025
http://www.vimeo.com/1958837
http://www.vimeo.com/1976487
http://www.vimeo.com/1938339
http://www.vimeo.com/2108282
http://www.vimeo.com/2381845

so which is better? or should i get neither, and get something else?

[WesScog]

For the price, I would say that the HG20 is the more versatile camera.

[DarkForestFilms]

For the price, I would say that the HG20 is the more versatile camera.
is there any way to get an HG20 with a bigger hard drive?

[WesScog]

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-VIXIA-AVCHD-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B001DTXK8G

Get the HG21.

[DarkForestFilms]

thanks