Music for your Movies?

[mopman]

Hey I'm not insulting your talent I am just not such a huge fan. It is an OPEN forum I can have my opinion. I am well aware many people love and use your music so more power to you for having a loyal fanbase.

[New Spark Films]

That's fine.

Just realize that all I'm doing is trying to help.

[lyhoproductions]

I'm adding music with a narration I'm doing for a video. But, It won't work on Windows Movie Maker. What should I do?

[glmclainmovies]

Don't use that music. rofl

[JBdaJUGGALO]

what format is the music file? is it a common format like an mp3? or wav?

you may need to convert

[Captain SteveBeard]

You can only have one audio track, so it's either music or narration. Get around it by adding the music first, saving it into one video file, then importing it again and adding narration.

[Westcroft]

That's fine.

Just realize that all I'm doing is trying to help.

And you're doing a good job :)

[Sam_rocks321]

Im pretty sure WMM only supports wave at least the newest version only works with a wave format at least on my computer

[mopman]

only 1 audio track, buy vegas movie studio platinum, 100 bucks and full editing control. pretty much the best 100 bucks you can spend as a film maker, anything I repeat ANYTHING will be better than WMM

[The Nate Dawg]

Where do you get the music used for the background and theme songs? Do you get it offline, use real instrumments to record it, or play the keyboard voices really well, or other?

[Vaughn Whynot]

...............
i use local bands and moby's site
http://www.mobygratis.com/film-music.html

[kennyboy13]

http://freeplaymusic.com/

Best free music site ever!

[aaronmulticlass]

If i was to use music anyone is familiar with. How would one get permission? Also whats the most excellent way to get free music?

[The_Count]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

that thread has several links to different free music sites but is focused on 'new spark films' who has an extensive bank of free music and will also compose specific things if you ask and he isn't too busy.

theres also alot of other threads elsewhere in the forums with alot of information for this in so take a look around, or try searching.

hope that helps :)

welcome to IM

[New Spark Films]

C'mon! We get like 3 threads on this every day.

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

[next-tarantino]

I compose and perform most of my own music.

And I'd be happy to do the same for any of you guys out there! No joke.

:D

[Westcroft]

I'm helping lighten the load off of New Spark Films and helping to increase the variety of music within the free film music project, check out my sig for New Spark's webpage and my Pure volume page for examples of some of my stuff...

Also, please use the search function next time as I've seen this asked many a times!

NOTE: If you decide to use my stuff, it's the same as using New Spark's I just expect my name in the creds!

Regards!

[MitchellStafiej]

This site is wonderful for free music...

http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/faq.html

Mitch

[Westcroft]

C'mon! We get like 3 threads on this every day.

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

I get so pissed when I see these too!

[toppie34]

i make it myself with mixcaft 4 is the alternative to garageband for windows and i think its really good

[BinBinProductions]

Go to the internet and do Free Rights... right?

[iplaywithfire]

What are the laws and guidelines and requirements for using a bands song in your shortfilm?

[elscottomagnifico]

If you don't have permission, you shouldn't be using it. This goes for personal/private use or public use (film festivals, profit ventures). You either have to license the music or find creative commons licensed music that allows for use in whatever situation you have(for profit or not is an example).

[jowo96]

Really the best thing you can do is contact the artist and find out on what conditions they would be willing to let you use their music as the rules vary from artist to artist

[Fisherking]

What are the laws and guidelines and requirements for using a bands song in your shortfilm?

I have no formal legal training. This is a layman's understanding of copyright law as it applies to music. Nothing in this post should be taken as legal advice and, if in doubt, see a solicitor.

Long answer: There are several different forms of copyright, relating to the specific performance of the song, the distribution of the song and use of the song as written. Often, the record company will own all of rights, sometimes the rights will be afforded in some convoluted way. The first point of call would likely be contacting the record company, but I've never taken it to that level. Chances are, if it's a well-known song, it just ain't going to happen. Sometimes there will be provisions for low-budget films, but I don't think that's particularly widespread. Songs distributed under a Creative Commons license will allow unlimited redistribution and molestation, but you'll really need to be certain you're using Creative Commons music before you use it.

Short answer: Don't.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

Best thing to do would be to get in touch with local bands. They usually have no problem with letting you use their music.

[JBdaJUGGALO]

i thought it was ok if u use 30 seconds or less of music with out permission

[ericslovechild]

Download.com has a lot of independant unliscenced bands that will glsdly let you use their music.

[skinwalker13]

I'm doing a film noir for a local film competition and I need to find some good noir music, what would you guys recommend? The finish date is my 10th, we're almost wrapped on everything, now we just need music. If you guys could point me in a direction that would be awesome!

[ericslovechild]

http://music.download.com/stefanlsmith/3600-9112_32-100363288.html?tag=MDL_listing

He has two songs called "Film Noir Cue" that work, and some others too.

[killkhan]

I would recommend stuff like light jazz and light dramatic music. Music in film noir doesn't have to be super intense and everyone likes a little saxophone.

Check out freeplaymusic.com (http://www.freeplaymusic.com) they have a lot of good music and it's free to use as long as it's not commercial.

[LIVELAX22]

i agree with killkhan, light jazz, probably some bass and Piano would sound good

[killkhan]

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[skinwalker13]

Oh man this is more than I need! Thanks a lot! You guys are awesome!

[Zombeast]

Miles Davis or Anal Cunt.

[punkandska66]

^rofls^

both good, though.

[aaronmulticlass]

What if I want permission to use a famous song in a movie?

[jawahunter]

What if I want permission to use a famous song in a movie?

Then expect to pay for it. And by pay I mean in the hundreds to thousands. You're going to need an entertainment lawyer or manager who is established within the industry to put you in contact with the people who own the rights to the music.

Here's the best part. Music liscences are in fact in two parts and each have a price tagged attached. The first licence is for the music itself. Meaning the arrangement of notes that make up the song. The next for the actual recording of the song (note, you obviously can't get this liscence without the first). If you get just the first licence however you can have someone else performing the song. To give you an idea for cost they had to pay $1600 for a few lines from a Yes song at the end of Sarah Silverman's Jesus is Magic.

[mr_goodbomb]

I've found a few places for sounds, but could use more.

However, my main issue is soundtrack music... Just some general, instrumental stuff for an action-esque film. Not heavy metal, but sort of 80s action music. Any websites that could work for this?

[The_Count]

search the forums.. theres TONS of stuff that will help you if you take a bit of time to look around

[Harris Bros. Videos]

here are a couple sites for music:

http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php?sid=11d41e130451c5399581028734953bfb

and

http://www.videomaker.com/downloads/free-sound-effects/

hope that helps.

[ibend1]

Here is a list of some sites...

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=7403&highlight=stock+footage

One of the sites on this list is incompetech.com that you can download actual music... not the longest songs, but hey...

[punkandska66]

so even if you are not going to sell your movie you can't use it without permission?

[jawahunter]

so even if you are not going to sell your movie you can't use it without permission?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: No ;)

You see a lot of the smaller independent film festivals will in fact allow you to use copywritten music but there's a bit of a catch. The unwritten rule is that you can't use any songs that are too famous but ones that are recognizable but not a chart topper.

The general rule of thumb is that if you have no plans to sell it or screen it and get paid then you're pretty much in the clear. Take Youtube as an example. The most viewed video of all time on there is FILLED with copywritten music that he doesn't have permission for.

However if you do plan to make any sort of money back you better get those liscences down or the man will be on your ass.

[ChristopherJ]

To make your movies more original, get in touch with either friends or family that can play musical instruments and make up your own theme tune / action or suspence music.

An alt. option is to use Royalty free music but that might not give you the sound that you are looking for

[dailyproductions]

Please always remember to consult your entertainment lawyer if you have legal questions.

Legit film festivals will not allow films in without the proper clearances to begin with. If they do, they do so with the filmmaker taking full responsibility for legal action that may arise from using material that had not been through the proper clearances (i.e. if you have not acquired the music's Master Use License as well as Synchronization License... you can also usually negotiate a Festival Use License for less money if your film is only intended for film festivals. )

That is if it is a signed band.

If you have an unsigned band with original music then you can have a contract written up with the band that states the licensing of the music for this film is inclusive of any and all public performances as well as cleared for future distribution (possibly including use in trailer and/or web use) for $0 or some other fee.

[Patuman]

i thought it was ok if u use 30 seconds or less of music with out permission

Me too... Everyone I have asked told me something similar?

[Fisherking]

About the '30 second rule,' it's not true. It's a very common legal myth that seems to derive from a bizarre interpretation of the legal concept of 'fair use.'

Fair use is actually quite complicated, but the eligibility criteria basically boils down to this: 1. The nature of your work. 2. The nature of the work used. 3. The amount and substantiality of the work used. 4. The impact upon the profitability of the work used.

Suffice to say, there is no 'cut-and-dry' threshold under which you are safe from legal retribution. It's all arguable in court -- you will have to prove that you have satisfied the criteria of 'fair use.'

Here's a copy of the relevant code from Cornell University Law School (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html).

Note: I am not a solicitor. This does not constitute legal advice. If you need legal advice, visit a solicitor.

[KMProductions]

Me too... Everyone I have asked told me something similar?

yeah totally not true. 10% of a song is allowed to be used.

[Fisherking]

yeah totally not true. 10% of a song is allowed to be used.

No, no, no, no! This is totally false. My above post gives a layman's definition of 'fair use' and links to the relevant section of the US copyright code. This post is completely misleading; there is no 'cut-and-dry' threshold for fair use.

[Kcrash5]

http://www.purevolume.com/emerymayes

Use my music and be safe. lol

[aaronmulticlass]

Well how about an older song like louie louie from animal house?

[Patuman]

Theres a rule that if it has been 70 years since the death of the artist, you can use their music for free or with some minimal payments... Thats why classical music is being used so much.

[Skycarl]

Get in touch with ASCAP. They can give you all the information needed for using
music covered by rights.

[birdmanxxx]

You can't submit to Indy Mogul with copyrighted music, but at pretty slim odds what if you write the band and get permission? can you still use it and submit it?

[punkandska66]

i would assume. the same exact thing is happening to me at the moment. i didn't wanna get aressted so I emailed the artist, and she hasn't replied yet so I may just have to write to the record company. But if you get permission i would assume you could ask for indymogul to show it.

[WesScog]

Most of the "Where do I get Music?" threads merged.

[WesScog]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

Also, please check out the Indy Mogul Free Music Project founded by New Spark Films.

Lots of great free music, also a place to post your own work.

[lewis hull]

Im writing a movie and soon ill be scheduling the shoots but i need different types of music
i need -happy upbeat ,action suspense kind,and kinda like an awkward moment type,
some sites ive checked just have music that lasts for like 30 seconds.

"Simba It's to die for!"

[HunnyBunchFilms]

You can loop those songs to make them last longer.

[WesScog]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

Here!

[JackLawrence]

I think the best place for mood music is http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/
Its around a hundred instrumental compilations sorted by mood (action/ spooky/ joyful etc). Its free as long as you credit 'Kevin McLeod'

[nhwotton]

that is the best site in the world.

[Gunsavior]

i'm making an action movie an i need good royalty free music. anybody know where i can get some?

[WesScog]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

Here.

[nolan]

I am currently editing a mock basketball highlights video,and for the background music,I wanted some kind of rap/hip hop music.However this isn't the kind of music I normally listen to so I don't have any available,and most of the free songs that I went through listed on the forums were instrumental.So I was wondering if anyone knew of any way to get some kind of hip hop song to use in the video for free?

[UndergroundLairProductions]

I doubt you're gonna find much, if any kind, of hip-hop with lyrics for free. If you're looking for something with lyrics, I'd just download an instrumental track and record your own vocals over it, but yeah, check out www.soundsnap.com (http://www.soundsnap.com) for any music or sound effects you need. Hope this helps.

[nolan]

Thanks.I'll check soundsnap.But yeah I kinda figured any hip hop with lyrics isn't gonna be free,but I figured I'd check and see if anyone knew of anything

[sonnyfromda02]

Look for underground rappers on myspace. I'm sure they would let you use their music.

[MCYvideos]

What I would do (dunno if its legal >.>) is: Go on youtube> type in any rap song> use the tune catcher on the video I want> then use Wax to extract the music from the video, and BAM you got yourself some music.

Is that what you needed help with?

[sonnyfromda02]

That's probably not legal.

[The_Count]

does it have to have lyrics or could it just be instrumental hip hop? because i could do some instrumental hip hop.

[WesScog]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

Check out all of the free music we currently have available here on the site. Check it out, see if something works for you.

[nolan]

I was kinda hoping for lyrics in the song,although I guess they really aren't necessary.And also,what is tune catcher?

[ericslovechild]

Contact unsigned rappers via download.com. Many musicians on there would let you use their music for free in exchange for advertisement.

[Atomic Samurai]

I think it was mentioned somewhere in the forums before but Jamendo (http://www.jamendo.com/en/) is a great place to get music for free in general but they have an area that bands from all over the world post their music royalty free. Just make sure to follow the bands wishes so want credit and some only want their music used for non-profit stuff. Either way it's a great free site.

[Patuman]

What I would do (dunno if its legal >.>) is: Go on youtube> type in any rap song> use the tune catcher on the video I want> then use Wax to extract the music from the video, and BAM you got yourself some music.

Thats illegal. Sorry :D

[nolan]

I think it was mentioned somewhere in the forums before but Jamendo (http://www.jamendo.com/en/) is a great place to get music for free in general but they have an area that bands from all over the world post their music royalty free. Just make sure to follow the bands wishes so want credit and some only want their music used for non-profit stuff. Either way it's a great free site.


Thanks for telling me about that,that Jamendo place is great!

[bubblefax]

Please make some music for me please. Who ever can can you make a action tragic one like a guy being beat up by the enemy. A regular battle one. A cool one like the Dark Night trailer music. and I think that is it please make these for me.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

Try www.soundsnap.com (http://www.soundsnap.com)
I've found some great stuff there. Plus you might try talking to N. Hazen (New Spark Films as he's known 'round this neck o' the woods.)

[bubblefax]

Is it free do I have to deal with copy right or just screen credit.

[WesScog]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

You can get free music here on the forums Bubble.

[bubblefax]

Oh thanks I thought that was the request thread.

[WesScog]

That thread has both the links to the artists sites that are offering free music, and it also allows to request specific KINDS of songs there.

[bubblefax]

Oh.

[TheMan24]

You know where I find great music is www.newgrounds.com. Just credit the artist.

[smashedbabiecarcasses]

help please, i need some good ACTION instrumental music for like war/fight scenes that i can download for free... please help me

[Turtle_Muffin]

Just look it up. Try fruity loops.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

www.soundsnap.com (http://www.soundsnap.com)

Search keywords "score epic" and "score action"

[WesScog]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

We've got plenty of people here on the forums that are offering their own work, plenty of instrumental work there for free.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

TheMan24 and Wescog are both right, and yes, everything at soundsnap.com is totally royalty free

[Rainer666]

You know where I find great music is www.newgrounds.com (http://www.newgrounds.com). Just credit the artist.


Yup newgrounds is ok with using their music

[t3hg33k]

http://www.jamendo.com

My favorite resource for all kinds of music.

[Westcroft]

Elaborate on what you want, give references.. I might be able to help.

[KASR]

Better yet, download a demo of Sony Acid DJ (or Pro if you can), get creative and create your own stuff! :D

[smashedbabiecarcasses]

thanks everyone

[ChaseOfSpades]

Alright, you used to be able to click on the blog and then you could go the the cool stuff AND THEN you could scroll down and there would be 3, count em 3, audio links. Now there are only 2! the third was my favorite, but now it's not there. Does anyone know why it got taken away or what the link was!?! I need back on the website....


...i might be drunk....

[WesScog]

http://www.freesound.org/

Free Sound Project?

[ChaseOfSpades]

thanks for the reply, but no.

this site had a robot on the home page (almost like a transformer that played music) and a kid standing next to him. The robot tapped it's foot.



....i'm for sure very drunk...damn the mad dog 20/20

[schwanz9000]

You are talking about the Newgrounds audio portal....

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/

Enjoy!

[Sam_rocks321]

free play music?

[ibend1]

from http://incompetech.com/ you can get actual royalty free music...

here is one question though... how do you get sound effects off of freesoundproject.com?

[tambrm1016]

Newgrounds is great. As long as you give the artist credit you can use any music on the site. I just used 2 of their tracks for the voice over demo video I just made for you guys. Here it is. You can see how the music was used.

http://www.vimeo.com/1156216

[Dustbin390{dutch}]

you can go to:
www.sounddogs.com (http://www.sounddogs.com)
or ask me :D i got a VERY VERY VERY HUGE folder of 1000's of sounds
duncanheuvelmans@hotmail.com

i'll be happy to help you...

[pharis40]

I understand that there is a thread about free music in another forum but I was wondering if you guys knew about the kind of music that isn't really a song or even instrumental. Like for example: In a movie a guy will be asked about something from his past (that he thought no one knew) by a mysterious character. A cue of music will then play. It's like a serious low note that encites wonder or nervousness.

I hope someone knows what I'm talking about. It's pretty much music that isn't a song and can't be awkwardly faded out that creates a certain tone to a scene. It is similar to the dramatic and suspense accents from iMovie audio database. Anyone? But it has more applications and may not be as campy sounding.

I apologize if this has been posted. I realize that there are music threads. I just didn't know if it were to this particular type of music (if anyone gets it) and what to type in the search. It's hard to explain. Please help.

[BlazingProductions]

such as a sound effect?

[pharis40]

it's a sound effect but not like a gun shot type sound effect. it's like music that creates a mood and isn't a full piece.

[BlazingProductions]

idk if this site can be trusted, but it was one of the first things that came up on google.

http://www.grsites.com/sounds/

[pharis40]

what did you type in

[pharis40]

i'm talking about the kind of music that plays when a dramatic thing has just happened in a movie.

[WesScog]

I think it's called Incidental Music. Just kind of subtle background music added for emotional effect.

[pharis40]

I think it's called Incidental Music. Just kind of subtle background music added for emotional effect.

this sounds like the right thing. is this a professional term?

[WesScog]

Yes, pretty sure it is.

[pharis40]

awesome thanks i looked up some stuff and this is perfect. now i just don't know if i can find tracks for free

[New Spark Films]

You know, if you send me some footage over, I'll score it. The ones I put on my purevolume page are just the general songs anyone can use. I score a lot of people's movies too based on requests.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

Try going to www.soundsnap.com (http://www.soundsnap.com)
All the stuff there is free, and they've got some quality material.
And this guy above me is great too :thumbsup:

[MooreEnt24]

You mean a 'stinger?'

[pharis40]

yeah maybe a stinger. it's pretty much a tone that is hit when a revealing line or something dramatic happens.

new spark films, once i have some stuff i'll see if i can send it your way. sadly, i don't have anything concrete yet.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

Like a 'dramatic chord'?

[pharis40]

yes a dramatic chord but guys i can't find what i'm looking for does anyone have any idea where some stock dramatic chord and stingers are because i'm mainly just finding music medleys of instrumental. i look for pretty much the same thing as the imovie suspense and dramatic accents that don't sound so cliche or campy.

[stefanocasadei]

play around in garage band. try out the synthesisers.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

http://www.soundsnap.com/search/audio/horror+hit/score

There's some good ones here

[ctvfilms]

Does anyone around here know of a DIY music show? like recording, mastering, setting up gigs, and and making homemade instruments. If there isn't one, everyone here on the forums should think about possibly making a collaborative show.

We will have people like New Spark Films, Spleg, and anyone else that records and plays and instrument or two.

I don't know, what do you guys think? If there was a show like this you could make your own music for your films easily.

[New Spark Films]

Sounds like a good idea. If everyone is up for this then I'll do it.

[ctvfilms]

great :) I think this could really help alot of people out.

[loser23jtw]

That would so great.

I wouldn't be one of the musicians, but i would love to have a site where I could go specifically for someone to score my music

[sanftner2003]

Wes

Any chance we can get a "music/audio" thread going on the main forum page?

[ctvfilms]

yeah, great idea! ^^ this way people can make their own music, easily, and as cheap as possible, plus, we can maybe get a collaboration project going, people who play drums, other people that do guitar, bass, can send sheet music or tabs for their instruments. After the drummer or bassist records their part, they can post the MP3 or whatever on the collaborative thread. Next, someone with some music making/mixing talent can go in and put it all together, and just like that, we have a song.

[NickFiorentino]

Hey guys I wanted to make a fake movie trailer for a made up action shooter does anyone know where I could get free music for it?

[UndergroundLairProductions]

www.soundsnap.com (http://www.soundsnap.com)
That oughta help you out.

[SeanFilms]

Where can I find royalty free (or just downloadable )
Music or creepy sound effects similar to those found in the Evil Tape from the ring.

[stefanocasadei]

try http://www.soundsnap.com

[Screamo]

Check torrents on sites like mininova.
I once found a torrent with over a million+ sound effects covering 600+ movies.
LOTS of horror sound effects.

[WesScog]

http://www.freesound.org/
http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

[speekerphone]

Check torrents on sites like mininova.
I once found a torrent with over a million+ sound effects covering 600+ movies.
LOTS of horror sound effects. Don't do it. It's illegal

[GarebearProductions]

Here's sound effects. These aren't like tracks as in songs, if you will, but they're sound effects. +700 to be exact.
http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/index.html
Actually, just go here http://www.stonewashed.net/sfx.html. It has a shit load of sound effects. It might have creepy background songs/sounds, but it might just be sound effects.

[myfaultstudios]

hey i am making my next short and i was wondering if anybody had some intense and action music i could use for my film that they made. Don't worry i would credit you and everything. Just post the link or whatever here if you do. All help is appreciated! If i do end up using your music i will PM you and send you the link to the short!

Thanks!

[Vaughn Whynot]

i got some bands on my free music project that you can check out
just credit them in the credits
the link is in my sig
you can't miss it

[myfaultstudios]

awesome man this could help me alot but i need creepy intense music most of the songs their were popish/acoustic. i don't need rap though lol it wouln't really set the mood.

[Vaughn Whynot]

lol yeah i look and wonder when i see rapper asking if they can help out
there are some good guys around here that are pretty good with music
or you could check this out
http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/horror.html

[uhrisuh]

You can look through the Indy Mogul music project (http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694) that forum member New Spark created. Lots of great stuff in there.

[Vaughn Whynot]

thanks arissa
i totally forgot about that

[uhrisuh]

It's a great resource for everyone. I've even mentioned it to some non Indy Mogul film friends and they enjoy it.

And correct me if I'm wrong but I thinK you can request music to be made if you can't find what you are looking for.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

There's also www.soundsnap.com

[myfaultstudios]

thanks guys!

[fancyfishfilms]

My new film is going to be a musical
How would I go about doing this without Garage Band?

[tubbtubbs]

Most people think, "Hey I can write a musical!", But don't know that it is THE hardest from of writing that there is. I'm not saying don't try, I'm saying don't give up.

[New Spark Films]

Do you know anything about composing music or do you just want to make a musical?

[trspballer7]

are you talking about an all music movie? or will it be like phantom of the opera musical?

[fancyfishfilms]

I Play Piano, I think I have a pretty fair knowledge about composing music.
The movie is not going to be a Musical throughout the whole movie
But there will be singing.

[New Spark Films]

I Play Piano, I think I have a pretty fair knowledge about composing music.
The movie is not going to be a Musical throughout the whole movie
But there will be singing.

OK, you should get FL Studio. You can do all your composing in there, and then have your actors sing over that, and when you go to shoot your movie have your actors lip-sych over the final track.

[The_Count]

OK, you should get FL Studio. You can do all your composing in there, and then have your actors sing over that, and when you go to shoot your movie have your actors lip-sych over the final track.


fl studio is probably a good one to start on for pc. i know its very popular, but im a mac user and use Logic Pro so i couldnt give too much advice on FL.

i know you can get FL Express for 49 dollars as a download, or the next step up is 99 dollars.

heres some more information:

http://www.flstudio.com/documents/what.html


your other option is to compose the music handwritten (i cant think of any free computer scoring programs, anyone else got any ideas?) and then perhaps send the score to someone who can record the music and have them do it for you. But there you have the problem of your actors singing.

[BrohiBoy]

hey all,

From where can i download free film music and sound effects?


thankyou,

[The_Count]

hey. welcome to the forums :)

at the top of the page is a search button, you should always use that before you make new threads. this question has been asked alot and there are lots of answers.

for music go check out the 'Indy Mogul Free Music Project' in the projects section of the forum. for sound effects google the free sound project, and i think the other good one is 'soundsnap'. :)

[WesScog]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

Here is free music.

For Sound effects:
http://www.freesound.org/

Free Sound Project.

[FRIDAYNIGHTFRENZ]

How do I know on the website jamendo.com what music is legal free to use in your film?

[The_Count]

from looking at the home page everything is legal. but it doesn't mention using the music. the best thing to do is contact the musician/band if you can and just ask them if its ok to use in a film, tell them you'll credit them though.

[FRIDAYNIGHTFRENZ]

I heard that if you put the some thing on attrubution you see all the ones you can get in your film?

[Atomic Samurai]

Log in and click on the Music tab, then click on Creative Commons. There is a break down of the Liberties on the right hand side. In your case, you are going to want to select music from the Attribution category.

One the left side you will see examples from each Liberty category. Just go to Attribution only and click More Albums and there you go.

These artists will allow you to download, share, and use their work as long as you give them credit. You could also get something from Non-Commercial but like the name implies only for Non-Commercial school or non-profit projects.

I would still send the artist a note on the use of their music, I'm sure they would like to know that something they created was enjoyed and being used. Plus, they might promote your project because your promoting them.

[cubes]

When you play a piece of music, the page will have what restrictions the artist have attached to it.

[FRIDAYNIGHTFRENZ]

thank you for all your help.

[c4m4n]

Hey guys,
I want to ask where you get the very good music??? I have searched for some websites on the internet and found this: www.musicbeyond.com (http://www.musicbeyond.com). Does someone of you use footage from this site and have you guys the lisence??
i hope you understand my question (i´m german)
Yours greet
c4m4n

[New Spark Films]

Not quite sure what you're asking, but we have a project started on the forums called the Free Film Music Project.

Here: http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

[xKayJayx]

Does anybody have any suggestions on where to get free movie music? Something I could use and not get in trouble for using? I tried moby.com but it's too techno. I'm going for the more traditional orchestra music. Thanks! :D

[KappFilms]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

[WesScog]

Merged most of the "Free Music!?" Threads.

[feralucce]

www.incompetech.com (http://www.incompetech.com)

[doriandvasquez90]

Depending on what you really need you can always buy the crappy sounds at party city or w/e, but here's the basic tip for using any music: Stay Instrumental, Max of 30 seconds, and Cite the song and artist in your credits.

I suggest listen to a lot of Pink Floyd an other bands as such. The music is not only awesome, but with a lot of mostly instruments, you can cut out enough of what you need for cool background music.

Another tip would be to mix different artists' instrumental pieces till it sounds like what you need. It's a lot more work, but you can do it with any basic program, even windows movie maker.

[TreasureBox Films]

You are only infringing on copyrights if you make money off the movie.

[RAM]

Just making sure, you know instrumental music is illegal to use without permission too, right? You couldn't just cut out the singing from a song and put it in your movie.Yep, its still illegal. In most cases its the melody of a song that makes it unique. Instrumentals just have an instrument, as opposed to a voice, playing the melody. For example you can't copyright a chord change but if you stole the riff from a song you'd get sued.

Another tip would be to mix different artists' instrumental pieces till it sounds like what you need. It's a lot more work, but you can do it with any basic program, even windows movie maker.This is something that rap and r'n'b artists do. And the producer has to track every sample they used in the song and make sure they have paid to use it. Otherwise they get sued. There are so many cases where rappers, and even small time djs, used a sample of someone elses song without permission and then were sued. It's copyright infringement. It's illegal.

Not sure if it actually is legal to use it providing you aren't making a profit. You'd be safer keeping it completely out of public domain if you aren't sure.

In tv and radio it's actually often cheaper for them to pay to record a cover of the song. They then get a different band to record the song, but pay the original singer(if they can afford to, if not they pay someone who sounds like it) to sing on the track. It's actually cheaper to do it this way. But obviously it's not an option for most of us.

Rob

[RAM]

Oh and just so it's clear: when I say you can't copyright a chord change I mean this:
Lets say I was to record a song, publicly release it and copyright it. Get my millions etc..
And lets say that said song has three bars that just include a few chord changes, nothing else, no vocals nothing.

You cannot legally steal this section of the song. Several copyrights exist on music. One is the physical copyright that encompasses the actual specific recording. This is generally owne by the studio that recorded it or the record company. Thus if my chord change was a repetitive C-G-D. You could go and record it yourself. No harm done. No copyright infringment, no lawsuit.

This is a simple example by which I hope to convey the fact that it's illegal to steal anything from someone elses recorded music.

Then there is intellectual copyright. Which refers to the actual music itself, not the recording. It's usually owned by th publishing company. I won't go into this as I think it's fairly self-evident.

Rob

[TheDude050]

look in the hall of fame one person gave music to people with no copyrigt stuff or u could write ur own is not that hard

[moesboy]

go to soundsnap.com they have tons of music and sound fx

[TreasureBox Films]

^^ heck yeah!

[Hejhog101]

You should post a thread about music to add to your movie, and ask people to contribute some of their own works.

[MGSSpaz]

What’s necessary to work with these programs? They make cool orchestra sound.

GVI - Giga Virtual Instrument
$159.00

Tascam GigaStudio 4 Sampling Workstation Software
$499.00

[MGSSpaz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJn4r09I0s0&feature=related

Does anyone know how Robert Rodriguez hooks his guitar to his computer for such an awesome sound? Is it simply through the little Line In plug?

[RAM]

Is it simply through the little Line In plug?

Simple answer: No, it isn't.

He has a Pro Tools HD system. My guess: his setup consists of the PCI Hd card, the digital converter (either the 96io or the 192io). He then has a preamp or DI box connected to the converter. This signal is then run through an amp simulator.

Personally I prefer the sound of an actual amp mic'ed up. Once it's a good amp of course.

Guitars have a very high impedance output and are unsuitable to connect to your computers line in. Hence the reason you need a preamp: to boost the level and adjust the impedance to low level line impedance.

This guy's setup is extremely expensive. But of course there is a lot less expensive equipment out there that can provide you with a similar setup.

For example, you could get a cheap digital converter that has onboard preamps and a DI (the DI is 'direct injection' which basically means you can hook your guitar straight into it). The converter might even come with a free amp simulator and recording software.

Rob

[MGSSpaz]

Great. Thanks. What kind of microphone should I use?

[RAM]

Well what does the rest of your recording setup consist of? Do you have a preamp for the mic and an interface to hook it up to the computer?

Also are you recording electric or acoustic guitar?(I presume it's electric)

For electric: Dynamic mics are "usually" the best. One of the most notable being the Shure SM57.

For acoustic guitars I'd use large or small diapraghm condensers.

This is just to give you a basic idea. I've used different setups before. It all depends on the instrument and what kind of sound you want.

And remember you might actually get a great sound with an amp sim as opposed to recording. I usually only use amp sims if I am just recording ideas otherwise I'll mic up my amp.

Research it and find out what is right for you. Certain real guitar amplifiers will be out-performed by an amp simulator.

Rob

[The_Count]

if you just want to record guitar a good place to start is by looking at Line 6's Toneport range. This comes bundled with Line 6's gearbox software for free and which you can upgrade along the line if you feel like it. It also comes with ableton live for recording software but its not too good, however it works.

The Presonus audio box and firebox are pretty good too but dont come bundled with any amp simulations. However, they come with Cubase LE which is much better than ableton.


Are you on a mac or PC?

[soundboy]

Hi, check out http://www.sfxsource.com ... thousands of royalty free music clips and also sound effects for easy license

[MGSSpaz]

PC. I’m using Magix Music Maker 7 [$20] currently.

Madison 2x half stacks [4 speakers each], 500 WAT Randoll head, Line 6 POD xt live effects pedal, electric and acoustic respectively.

My only microphone is something cheap from K-Mart. Which I plug straight into the computer. Should I run the microphone through a preamp before the computer?

I also want to record piano [not keyboard]. Is there anything I can record into, then transfer to computer?

[RAM]

Well how good is your guitar sound at the moment(just through the amp and with or without effects pedals)? Are you looking to record the sound you already have or improve on the sound in the recording?

I'm not a big fan of the standard onboard soundcards that computers come with. I could suggest you get an external soundcard that hooks up to your comuter via usb or firewire. Such interfaces usually come with mic preamps and DI ins. The previously mentioned Line 6 guys have some great stuff which usually come with amp sims too.

But such an interface might be too expensive for you so you could probably go with something cheaper (though bear in mind that you generally do get what you're paying for).

There are cheap usb connectors for mics now. The hook right up to the mics xlr socket. This will probably give you a better digital converter than your computer has but it might not. Cheap though, but perhaps unnecessary unless you've a good mic.

You'll need some form off external recorder to record the piano, unless you have a laptop or are willing and able to haul a desktop to the piano and record that way. There are a lot of such recorders out there, to be honest if you invested in a good one it'd also be good for recording your guitars too. The Zoom H2 is good. There's a lot of them so have a look around.

Or if you have a camera with a good onboard mic then use it to record the piano. Just extract the audio later.

Rob

[MGSSpaz]

Sounds awesome. Thanks a lot. I have a lot to research and try. It’s cool that everything I could think of is already out there in several forms. Thanks.

[Yugispoony]

Wow great ! i'm book marking those.

[Rebel Roots Films]

Is there a PC based program like Soundtrack Pro for those of us who aren't fortunate enough to be working with MACs?????

[Vaughn Whynot]

Is there a PC based program like Soundtrack Pro for those of us who aren't fortunate enough to be working with MACs?????
audacity
i think

[aaronmulticlass]

New Question.
What if i want to refrence a famous song but not use it.
example-Rick astleys never gonna give you up as a joke

[JD]

that brings up a question in me... is it against the law to use a song from a cd or a movie in your films?

its against the law, if you don't get the copyright holders permission, and you will also have to probably have pay royalities.

and remember to check the licensing on the these sites, as alot them require a fee for use in films etc.

you're best bet is go to local clubs etc and talk to the bands that play, or talk to local music groups, advertise on classifieds. or check out online groups like this one wes setup
http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694&highlight=composer
or Indaba
http://www.indabamusic.com/

though i feel its better if you can meet your composer/musicians.

[JD]

New Question.
What if i want to refrence a famous song but not use it.
example-Rick astleys never gonna give you up as a joke

you can reference it as in talk about it, if you sing it as it's not a comment or criticism on the song itself then you'd need clearance.

[JD]

Is there a PC based program like Soundtrack Pro for those of us who aren't fortunate enough to be working with MACs?????

Adobe audition

[Gorn9146]

Three questions:

1.) What is FL Studio?

2.) How much does it cost?

3.) Where do I find it?

[TreasureBox Films]

fl studio is free.
I would google FL studio.

[TreasureBox Films]

I got it for free off the website. i couldn't figure out how to use it so I threw it away.

[TreasureBox Films]

Weird.....

[Newstream Studios]

http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/

[GBS]

Dunno if this was already posted. But this guy made lots of awesome music. Of every genre too! http://incompetech.com/ Use his search. I'm using the soundtrack part for my film I'm doing, very cinematic.

[Davo Tron]

If you play an instrument, I would highly recommend any sort of computer based software / hardware from Line6. I got their "Rifftracker" set, which came with Guitarport and a very simple recording software which I can run off my laptop with ease. You just plug a guitar into the Guitarport, the Guitarport into a free USB slot, and some speakers or headphones into the Guitarport.

Start up the software, and you've got all sorts of guitar sounds which you can use easily. You can also use the Microphone, Bass or Keyboard pre-sets to use these instruments, and it comes with some decent sound drum backing tracks.

I've used this this in a number of productions, and recorded a number of songs (You can here some comedy covers I've produced here (http://www.myspace.com/fatwalletmusic).

I'd recommend to anyone getting themselves a cheap keyboard as well - I spent £40 on a Yahama PSR-270 and, while it sounds a little cheesy, I can figure out some basic sounds that would work well.

[PlanetZFilms]

Go onto YouTube and type in "Royalty Free Music." It then gives you a list of links with free, leagal music!

[Duplo]

If you want some "epical" music download Pro scores!

It's a great package full of epic music layers you can put together and make great "epic" songs.

And no, it's not some pop music, it's all massive classical music that you can mix so it fits with almost all kinds of scenes!:)

[LaxalFilms]

http://www.freeplaymusic.com
this site is amazing. pro quality everything
This is a good choose people . Good soundtracks and much more !


YELLOW SNOW COMING SOON !!

[Scott]

I want a techno cover of the song widely known as The Wong Fei Hung theme.

http://www.myspace.com/chanjackie

There is the best example to go by. The best version of the song in my opinion.

I need this for a kung fu action short I'm making.

[artyfin]

Does anyone know where I can get some 'generic' trailer music. Y'know the ones I mean; it's like a lot of 'hors' and 'hars', a bit Lord of the Rings-esque. I hope I'm making sense.

[Duplo]

download/buy pro scores from videoCopilot. You can edit and create great soundtracks, both for epic scenes, romantic scenes, sad scenes etc.
I have it and i don't find one bad thing about it.

[Razback]

Hi Guys anyone suggest my about found in a web a place for download song theme to put in a scenes...without download any Bruce Spristeeng songs for examples,thanks

[TreasureBox Films]

can you make less sense?

[Razback]

Do you understand what i mean..

[TreasureBox Films]

No. Otherwise I would have answered it. For 20 years old, You never have been taught grammar.

[Razback]

Becouse im italian my english yes its pretty bad,anyway i mean how anyone do music in his movies without download any songs...like a bruce sprinsteeng song...now

[xsanmdanx]

So your asking for copyright free music? Right?

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

[Razback]

Yes,in general how filmakers makes music for their movies

[xsanmdanx]

I have a own composer who makes music to my films. Do you know someone who can compose (and play) music?

[CR-Videos.co.nr]

We either do three things
-If you can or you have friends ask them to make the music for you
-Download royalty free music(link that Sandman gave)
-Or pay the royalty to use it in your film(this will cost a lot of money)

[Razback]

OK, i dont have friends do music exept one of one guy have a garage band for a while now dont do anything...so i download music

[xsanmdanx]

So your asking for copyright free music? Right?

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4694

[chickenproductions]

I use this site... pretty much anything you need

http://freeplaymusic.com/

[pepsivanilla93]

pro scores and designer FX by Video copilot are just simply amazing

[MooreEnt24]

I'm a freelance composer in Los Angeles and I currently license some of my original compositions to all levels of filmmakers. Sometimes for free.

If you're interested, you can check out some of my work on YouTube and my site. If you want, I could even do an original score for you, but I do charge for original scores/sessions.

Check out my Original Tracks on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=27703C038FBA85D3).

[347films]

Music with Creative Commons Licenses are a good way to go. www.Jamendo.com (http://www.Jamendo.com) is a site dedicated to CC Music. As long as you follow the set rules by the artists then you are aloud to use their music.

[Raised_Eyebrow_Productions]

hey would any of you guys be able to recommend the easiest software to use in regards to composing quality music and or sound effects.

The other thing is how much musical knowledge would i need, if any. My knowledge is ridiculously basic and my only musical experience is playing guitar, but even then i cheat and use tabs xD.

What program to do recommend will suit?

Thanks in advance :)

[sjharmon]

Hello, I am interested in designing the score to your short film. I have worked on a short film in the past and am looking to beef up my portfolio. Looking to work in Sci-Fi, horror, thriller genre. I may be willing to do this for free if the film will compliment my work. Thanks, check out the music at:
www.myspace.com/theswedishmovements

[ridlazz921]

hi.

i know about a really good blogg where you could download good music from movies like gladiator , black hawk down, man on fire, transformers , batman ETC.

this blogg post also bootleg, music wich do not includ in orginal score.

here is the site:

http://chiefdundee.blogspot.com/2007/12/black-hawk-down-suite-hans-zimmer.html

[ikkeliam]

what is the songtekst from harry potter rap?:);)

[bookin productions]

Well here is a tip for all of you who want free music for your movies or footage. Certain items become under public domain when the copyright goes and it is free to use. If you still want to learn more about public domain stuff then I am pretty sure Mark Apsolon on youtube has an episode on this. Mark Apsolon is the user name so Look it up!

[Crubba]

hey guys.
im interested in doing some original music for a short film. it would be an orchestral sort of thing, and of course i would do it completley free of charge (im not that evil!). i could do it for any genre and length of film however small or low budget, but preferably a relatively short one.
I use Sibelius 5 which is profesional musical scoring software; in fact, it was used to write the music in Quantum of Solace.
So if your interested just give me a bell.
Crubba

[jedijake]

yeh acid pro is the shit ive used it a many of times at school !!:)

[ChrisHFilms]

I use royalty-free music from http://www.mediamusicnow.com/ - They have a good selection of scores for films and can be freely used on video sharing websites (e.g. YouTube, Vimeo).

The only problem I find with the music on this website is the price. Depending on the length of a song you buy, you could end up paying around £20 ($30) for one song.

I have also used some free music and loops from http://www.soundsnap.com/ but this site is mainly for sound effects and foley.

Hope this helps,
- Chris

[Globeversal Pictures]

Pro Scores

[Steelersk36]

I require 'music for my movies"
If anyone out there is good with guitar/piano or has written/recorded
something with those two instruments and would like to give me a hand. I need some basic music for the lyrics I'm writing for my film- I can adapt the lyrics to fit what you've written,but musically I'm looking for some thin the style of "Collide"..
..Any takers?

[Steelersk36]

GIANT BUMP

[soundboy]

Hi Steelersk36, yes I have tons of original tracks in all sorts of genres and compose custom music all the time. Shoot me an email at adam@architectofsound.com and we can chat.

I've got some montages of my original work posted here, though I understand you are looking for something specific:

Architect of Sound (TM) (http://www.architectofsound.com)


Thanks

[soundboy]

Mixcraft by Acoustica (http://www.acoustica.com/mixcraft/) is an awesome software for those with limited musical skill, as well as the musically versed ... its cheap too ...


hey would any of you guys be able to recommend the easiest software to use in regards to composing quality music and or sound effects.

The other thing is how much musical knowledge would i need, if any. My knowledge is ridiculously basic and my only musical experience is playing guitar, but even then i cheat and use tabs xD.

What program to do recommend will suit?

Thanks in advance :)

[Steelersk36]

Soundboy- How much do you charge for a single easy basic song?

[ZombieGorePrincess]

I'm not sure if any of this has been said, I didn't read the whole thread. but I mess around with these, for both score ideas, and actual sountracks.

Jamstudio.com
you can mess with it and save stuff for free, but to get the music you've made as an MP3 with you owning the rights to it, and alot more instruments to mess with, you have to pay for it, but I think it's worth it, as soon as I get the money I'm paying for it.

Hobox.com audio tool

it's ALOT more complicated, but I believe everything is free.

[comedyhomecentral]

Personally i use istockphoto.com
It's a website that sells royalty free music for a buck or two for each track, but there are some pretty darn good tracks there.

[srinimadhavan]

hey guys, for my media project we did a parody of gangsters, and now we need some fitting music. any ideas?

[No-Reason-At-All]

Well personally I compose my own and record it. Though I am fortunate enough to have friends who play the required instruments and a good place to record. Though even if you just have a piano it is not to terrible hard to do because many programs well let you take an electric keyboard and record directly into the program.

[BullShlakna]

I make music using FL Studio, if anyone would like to hear some samples just quote and reply!

[animatorflash9999]

I am in an orchestra so i use my own, and make other stuff from fl. if you want to get music on youtube wiki wma and they will have a list of songs and bands they own. if your music that u want is there than you can appeal and usually they let you use it.