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DefusedProductions
09-20-2007, 07:25 PM
I have a hard time finding music for my videos that doesnt violate any copyright issues.
I downloaded FL Studio but im lost as how to start, tutorials dont help much either.
Suggestions? What do you do for music in your videos?
nooneimportant77
09-20-2007, 07:33 PM
there are alot of royalty free music packs you can get.
apple jam packs have a combo of software instruments and loops that i'm pretty sure are yours free to use, i have almost all of them and that catchy orchestral tune that the indy mogul crew uses is right out of it (i think)
they'll run you like 80 bucks but its pro quality and really good tunes.
justin
09-20-2007, 07:47 PM
Soundtrack pro is AMAZING. Otherwise there are free sound sites out there. Any one know good ones off hand?
nooneimportant77
09-20-2007, 08:44 PM
wow great ! i'm book marking those
DefusedProductions
09-20-2007, 08:48 PM
Same here, thanks!
PlasmaP
09-20-2007, 08:48 PM
Now I know this may sound weird, but.
Make your own!
That's what I try to do in my videos.
Of course, if your making a music video (not for profit, but on youtube) I'm sure you'll be able to use copyrighted music, just as long as you cite it.
DefusedProductions
09-20-2007, 09:08 PM
Now I know this may sound weird, but.
Make your own!
That's what I try to do in my videos.
Of course, if your making a music video (not for profit, but on youtube) I'm sure you'll be able to use copyrighted music, just as long as you cite it.
Im trying to figure out FL Studio so I can make my own!
Im trying to break the copyright music habit, Revver wont green light a video if you violate copyrights.
Brainstrained
09-20-2007, 09:08 PM
I always find what I'm looking for on freeplaymusic.com
It's very well done, check it out!
ryanmoore
09-20-2007, 09:42 PM
well i dont know if they have music
but a great places for sound effects is
sounddogs.com
i get all sound effects there
Whole Milk Productions
09-20-2007, 09:47 PM
I use real songs.
D00MB0X
09-20-2007, 10:47 PM
I use real songs.
Likewise...
What you can do is find a local band.
You don't break copyright laws, and you're helping out someone in need of exposer! :D:D:D
ieatdirt
09-21-2007, 11:38 PM
that brings up a question in me... is it against the law to use a song from a cd or a movie in your films?
nooneimportant77
09-21-2007, 11:45 PM
that brings up a question in me... is it against the law to use a song from a cd or a movie in your films?
well yeah if you're using it for a serious reliece, but if you're making a movie for you and your friends or school or something like that then i dont think RCA will come hunt you down.
ieatdirt
09-21-2007, 11:51 PM
well thats always good. so aslong as i dont make money off of it.
nooneimportant77
09-21-2007, 11:52 PM
yeah pretty much, as long as your not making something off it that the record compony could.
WesScog
09-21-2007, 11:58 PM
http://gratis.moby.com/film-music.html
Don't know if anyones posted this yet, but the musician Moby, allows you to sign up here, and use his music for free, in any non-profit, or student films.
DefusedProductions
09-22-2007, 12:20 AM
Wow, thanks for that! Moby is a god!
Like the end of Bourne Ultimatem.
KenOchalek
09-22-2007, 03:15 AM
well thats always good. so aslong as i dont make money off of it.
Strictly speaking, it doesn't matter whether you profit or not because the original artist (or more likely their evil record company) retains the right to control the way in which their work is used.
But like someone else said, your video would have to get pretty big for this to be a problem. However, if you're serious about making videos, its probably a good idea to not even get in the habit in the first place.
WesScog
09-22-2007, 03:54 AM
Exactly, always make your own music, or use music that isn't under copyright anymore.
Classical music is good, a lot of Jazz and Big Band is in Public Domain now.
Classical music is great because it's so easy to pace to it, watch old Looney Tunes stuff, they use a lot of classical music, and it's just really amazing stuff.
thegadgetdude
09-22-2007, 09:30 AM
Podsafe music network is a good place: http://music.podshow.com/index.php
They have pretty much every kind of music, all free to use from new bands and artists. They're designed for podcasts but of course you can use them in videos as well.
I know a lot of youtubers use http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/ , all free to use, you'll have to credit him though.
nhwotton
09-22-2007, 10:24 AM
http://stonewashed.net/sfx.html has all kinds of sound effects and some music.
Grandma
09-22-2007, 10:40 AM
This is a great thread. Another one that I have found is:
http://www.musopen.com/
They don't have an awful lot yet but they are going the right way. :)
DefusedProductions
09-22-2007, 11:54 AM
So many great resources for music in here! Later ill edit my first post with ALL the links so others have an easy time seeing this, I dont believe im the only one!
machra
09-22-2007, 07:27 PM
If you are willing to spend a few dollars, you can get all the rights to these guy's music. I personally use them, nice selection.
http://www.stock20.com (http://www.stock20.com/)
I think its like $7 bucks for a song and you can use it over and over in any work you have. They let you hear the full song before you buy it too, and each song comes with 5+ versions of it to satisfy any of your needs.
apstinky
09-22-2007, 07:32 PM
Indy Mogul uses Grageband for Apple for their music, its in-expensive, and comes with most knew mac's. There are alot of music loops that come with the software, or you can create your own music.
felix78
09-24-2007, 05:39 PM
For Vegas user u can get Acid pro, also sony did this program. choose from thousands of beats or sounds and stuffs. put it together, the program works mostly like Vegas actuallly, thats what makes it so good.
DefusedProductions
09-24-2007, 08:42 PM
I am a vegas user, ill have to get that.
evgon
09-25-2007, 08:18 PM
http://www.freeplaymusic.com
this site is amazing. pro quality everything
Leatherfeet
09-26-2007, 05:12 PM
www.funny-games.biz/punkomatic.html (http://www.funny-games.biz/punkomatic.html)
Not a great idea, but... It might come in handy.. Just record your creation with audacity.
The other thing that I will probably do for my film is taking various classical pieces and personalising them - adding in suitable drum beats etc...
Magical Monkey
10-08-2007, 05:58 AM
Hullo. i'm making a spy movie with the Cosmic Hamster Production crew and i was wondering what music we should use. we've got a gun-fight, a dramatic death and a creeping scene...
any ideas:hbang::loco:
Darkmast508
10-08-2007, 06:21 AM
For the fight do U2s song Vertigo of course.
Cosmic Hamster Productions
10-08-2007, 07:08 AM
OI IM COSMIC HAMSTER PRODUCTIONS!!! THANK U VERY MUCH!!!
Cosmic Hamster Productions
10-08-2007, 07:08 AM
YAY FOR THE 40TH POST!!!
Darkmast508
10-08-2007, 07:12 AM
Erm... Stop talking in caps.... It's annoying...
Cosmic Hamster Productions
10-08-2007, 07:15 AM
ANYWAY for the death scene movies by In Pieces By LINKIN PARK!!!
If your spy walks of dramticly Play what ive done by linkin park
mystkmastkal
10-11-2007, 10:58 PM
where can i find some free epic music for my movie trailer project for school
im not talking about requiem for a dream music i want something new
something totaly awesome!
FyceDesigns
10-11-2007, 11:30 PM
Epic? Try a couple sites:
http://flashkit.com (http://flashkit.com/)
http://sounddogs.com (http://sounddogs.com/)
That's about it. SoundDogs isn't technically free, but they have semi-lower-quality samples of royalty free music and sound effects. If you want scary and epic music, check out Midnight Syndicate: http://midnightsyndicate.com (http://midnightsyndicate.com/)
Good luck!
-Fyce
There's some good, free, royalty free music here. (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
You may find what you're looking for. If only we were all so lucky.
mystkmastkal
10-12-2007, 07:59 PM
thanks a bunch!!!
Davage
10-12-2007, 11:22 PM
Most Film Festivals require you to have the rights to use major music and footage in your entry's. Anyone know how to get the ok? Or if its even possible for small (very small) Projects to get these rights?
Fromourankles
10-12-2007, 11:26 PM
probly more hassle than its worth
NaziActionFigure
10-12-2007, 11:35 PM
Well, you can contact the label of the artist you have in mind, and you have some options. Most of the time you can buy a special kind of rights called festival rights. This means you can use this song in in your film, but only in festivals, so there's no chance of distribution.
Also, if you're going for a song that is preformed by an artist, but not written by them, you will need both the rights to the song, and the performance rights from which ever band's version you're using.
I'll read up a little on it, and get back to you. Just remember, depending on the band you're thinking on using, it might be out of the question, if it was a Rolling Stones song, no matter how it's used, it's 1,000,000.00$.
George_Locust
10-12-2007, 11:36 PM
I use newgrounds.com
These guys are not famous, per se, but they rock just the same.
When you find a piece you like just email the composer, and ask.
I have yet to be turned down.
edit: There is some crap on that site as well, but also some good stuff. If you need classical. I would suggest MaestroRage, he is awsome, and will always allow his work to be used if credit is given.
I used his stuff on a machinima movie I made on you tube.
Fisherking
10-13-2007, 06:15 AM
Got any friends in a band?
SamsShortFilms
10-13-2007, 10:09 AM
Search on Google for royalty free music and it has loads of free music that you don't need to own the rights to!
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
SanitySource
10-13-2007, 03:49 PM
This is a great link for MANY different free audio programs.
http://www.free-samples-n-loops.com/free-music-programs.html
This is also a great site for music LOOPS and effects.
http://www.free-samples-n-loops.com/
However i record them by holding my microphone to my speakers.
New Spark Films
10-13-2007, 06:17 PM
I am currently making my own music to a movie I made. I can tell you, doing it alone is not easy. I'm good at guitar, but I have about an hour of bass practice under my belt total.
BackyardProductions
10-14-2007, 12:28 AM
its times like these that im glad im a musician and am in a band. And if you want any music send me a message and ill record something for you
zebrapix
10-14-2007, 10:06 AM
For about $5, I found a copy of "Magix Music Maker 7" (it's now at version 12, I think) which came with several different instrument samples for Rock/Pop, Rap, Country, Disco and Funk. You can randomize a loop or create incidental music by dragging and dropping chunks.
http://www.google.com/products?q=Magix+Music+Maker&oe=utf-8&scoring=p
I used it for our feature-length movie experiment "Revenge of Ringo" (scan forward to 2:45 for the theme)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LjpiibwcbIU
You can make quick variations on the same tune to create different themes for different characters. It's easy to use and also works as a video editor. I edited all the footage from the film on the same program.
Version 7 also comes with chroma key filters for green, blue, black and white, several really cool audio and video presets and a lot of extras, including sample video clips, "text-to-speech" and visuals. The newest version of the program runs for about $45. All my sample videos on Youtube were edited and scored in MMM7.
Magix also has video editing software, but I haven't tried it. I assume it works off the same engine, with more of the same features, but having MMM gives you basic video editing and a lot of audio options. Since our biggest problem is getting good audio, I opted for the Music Maker over Movie Edit Pro when I upgraded.
Hope that helps.
cubes
10-14-2007, 02:15 PM
Check out www.wavtracks.com (http://www.wavtracks.com). Found a 14 cd compilation (actually on 2 dvd's) of various styles on ebay for about $60.00. Think there is a 16 cd compilation for sale there also. The price includes the licensing fee. Pretty good music for price, plan on using it on our project.
New Spark Films
10-14-2007, 06:30 PM
Well I finished making all my music. I recorded myself playing the guitar and added that to some FL tracks I made. The guitar quality is crappy, but I'm happy with myself for making my own music.
glmclainmovies
10-15-2007, 09:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svP3HsJB5ng
the one that starts playing with the bells and whatnot? i MUST have it. it was also in potc
Crosius
10-15-2007, 09:37 PM
It could be music from Sondheim's broadway production (http://www.sondheim.com/shows/sweeney_todd/).
WesScog
10-15-2007, 10:13 PM
The Songs in the trailer are from the Broadway play, they are in order, "Epiphany", "By the Sea", and "A Little Priest".
I don't know which song you mean, because they all sound like they have bells and stuff in them to me.
Also... There is some, as always, Danny Elfman music in the trailer.
I guess wait until the Soundtrack comes out in December?
glmclainmovies
10-16-2007, 08:20 AM
not the ones he sings the backround one..the one that starts playing at :37.
tyler93
10-17-2007, 08:10 PM
i have been playing music for all my life and play many things so ya email me with a scene or the script or watever u want music to and ill get started
mousethebystander@gmail.com
trspballer7
10-22-2007, 11:39 PM
anyone know where i can ge some Free Uncopywrited suspenseful music? I have a music generator with Pinnacle studios, but there isnt really any horror...can someone give me any links?
FyceDesigns
10-22-2007, 11:55 PM
Well, I don't know about uncopyrighted, but you can buy a Midnight Syndicate (http://www.midnightsyndicate.com (http://www.midnightsyndicate.com/)) CD, if you want. And if that doesn't work for you, try FlashKit (http://www.flashkit.com (http://www.flashkit.com/)) or SoundDogs (http://www.sounddogs.com (http://www.sounddogs.com/)). Good luck!
-Fyce
styglabprod
10-23-2007, 09:22 PM
A place you can start...START... is http://music.podshow.com/ These are artists who have cleared their music to be used in podcasts. I'm sure a quick email to the one you want will give you rights to put it in a movie.
Support independent musicians!
hotelfboy55
10-23-2007, 11:19 PM
im not sure if this is not copyright but it worx. it cost money but you can listen to the music anywase before you download it. it just has a guy's annoying voice pop up every now an again. if u are a mac user, download wire tap and record it. from their, just crop out the guy's voice and it sounds the same. here's the link.
http://www.mediamusicnow.co.uk/music/
i used music from this website on one of my movies. here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbWcU6Yc49k
Harris Bros. Videos
10-24-2007, 03:36 AM
Dude I will literally take all of the music your willing to give and then give you credit if I use it. Metal, Rock, Punk, Bass, what do you do my brotha!
mr Tree
10-24-2007, 04:24 AM
i'm stuck on finding decent 'chase' scene music.
any ideas?
fxmaniac
10-24-2007, 08:01 AM
i haven't got the film done yet but once i filmed it would you be able to make a little score for it?
styglabprod
10-24-2007, 08:52 AM
I suspect you are going to be inundated. If you already have music you are willing to allow filmmakers to put into their movies I'd love to hear it. A lot of my work get stymied because of the rights issues associated with music and I end up with cheesy synth music I hash out by myself that sucks.
Thanks for the offer.
SamsShortFilms
10-24-2007, 10:18 AM
Does anyone know where and/or how i can get free movie music (royalty free) for my movies?
Thanks
Sam
SunneyTehBunney
10-24-2007, 03:53 PM
Uh...just download music?
Use the program LimeWire to download them
SyxxGage
10-24-2007, 03:54 PM
Uh...just download music?
Use the program LimeWire to download them
He means music that he wont have to pay licensing rights to use.
ericslovechild
10-24-2007, 06:22 PM
http://music.download.com/patrickkirst/3600-10615_32-100759295.html?tag=MDL_chart_edpix_artist
http://music.download.com/ilyagordon/3600-8272_32-100139594.html?tag=MDL_listing_song_artist
I don't know about the first guy, but the second guy has always been nice about letting me use his stuff.
cubes
10-24-2007, 09:30 PM
I bought a 14 cd compilation on 2 dvd's from wavtracks.com for $60 on ebay. Price included licensing. There is a 16 cd compilation on ebay from same folks i believe for $69. Pretty good variety and different length edits of each track. Not free, but definately cheapest I've found.
jugglingfreak
10-25-2007, 10:05 AM
Here ya go:
http://www.incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/horror.html
tyler93
10-27-2007, 05:42 PM
i would be happy to make music for all of you just email me at mousethebystander@gmail.com
What do instruments do you do? Piano, keyboard, drums? :)
tyler93
10-27-2007, 06:09 PM
piano, keyboard, drums, eletric guitar, and bass
Do you know how to make hardcore techno
Like superfast drums and music? :)
tyler93
10-27-2007, 06:15 PM
ya i can do that just email me with ur project
I'll do so when I'm ready ;)
Westcroft
10-27-2007, 11:26 PM
That's an awesome idea for you to offer and share your music, and it's a really cool notion... thus I am inspired to share any scoring that people might want done. I'm a drummer but I also use a midi keyboard controller and my electronic drums with gigastudios to produce scores for my flicks. It's kinda what Robert Rodriguez's set-up looked like in the bonus feature "Inside Troublemaker studios" from Once Upon a Time in Mexico with the gigastudios running through protools, except mine is running through Sonar 6.
The only problem is I'm waiting for my new midi controller to come in the mail for my last one was faulty! Anywhoo, send me a message as well if you want music.
trspballer7
10-28-2007, 12:34 PM
thank you so much
Jonny_McBane
11-06-2007, 08:14 AM
Where could I find some cool oriental music for my Ninja film? It has to be instrumental, but no rock or anything like that.
Gizmo_nine
11-06-2007, 11:54 AM
If your looking for “traditional” Chinese/Japanese style music. Just search for anything using a “Guzheng”
Wikipedia info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guzheng also note that the Japanese version is called the “Koto”
A good video demonstrating a guzheng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh98zIvyUd8
Another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zptY64M_EsY
Koto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75uAD-XYs6U
Japanaese version of a guitar is the shamisen
wikipedia info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamisen
You would know what one sounds like if you have seen the Nintendo wii commercials.
The guys who did the music for the wii commerical http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ron17xFNBf0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ron17xFNBf0)
batteling Shamisen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5rs7pfZuPs
Another one with Japanese drums (taiko) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09vfa4vuHFY
For something “Arabian” or middle eastern, search for music containing a Kamancheh.
Finch2013
11-06-2007, 12:41 PM
I have a cd of Traditional Chinese Music..and I like it
DeadFishProductions
11-06-2007, 12:44 PM
Try searching Sounddogs. (http://forum.indymogul.com/www.sounddogs.com) you might find something oriental sounding.
baron von fogel
11-06-2007, 01:44 PM
I've got some awesome Japanese Taiko Drum music from a group called Kodo which is really cool, and works particularly well in high-enery fight scenes.
Jonny_McBane
11-06-2007, 03:27 PM
Thanks for help. I was aware what Koto is.
Kohrsfilms
11-07-2007, 04:01 PM
www.freeplaymusic.com (http://www.freeplaymusic.com) has some oriental style music tracks that you could use.
For my ninja movie I used music from this CD. It worked fairly well. http://www.amazon.com/I-Ching-Symphony/dp/B000006190
You will also be able to find some ninja-esque music here too. http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/index.html
biohazard
11-17-2007, 07:20 PM
Is it LEGAL to use DRM free music from like the itunes store in movies??? or is it just easier???
NaziActionFigure
11-17-2007, 07:26 PM
No, it's not legal, it's just not protected.
joshmckeehen
11-17-2007, 07:27 PM
No, you cannot use music that is just DRM free. If that was the case you could just rip a CD and say it is DRM free.
WesScog
11-17-2007, 09:00 PM
DRM-free music does not mean COPYRIGHT FREE.
You can use royalty free music, or music that is 75 years old, so classical music is ok, most early Jazz and Blues Music is ok, and big band stuff.
Also, if you sign up for a program on Moby's website, he has a section where you can download his songs for free if you're using them in an independent film.
DarkMirageProductions
11-18-2007, 01:35 AM
DRM isn't just a means of free to do whatever with music. There's still copyrights to worry about.
You can buy the right to use a track, which is what most indie filmmakers do instead of getting an orchestra to make the music (what most major filmmakers will do).
If you buy the rights though, don't expect to pay anything under $150.
WesScog
11-18-2007, 01:49 AM
Or... just use Royalty free music, or music that isn't in copyright anymore.
Just use Beethoven, everybody loves some Beethoven.
toxicvarn90
11-18-2007, 01:56 AM
There is a whole world out there full of copyleft music.
Here's a start: http://creativecommons.org/audio/
May I reccomend Ottmar Liebert, you buy his music and you can sample it. Also Moby is letting filmmakers use his music: http://www.mobygratis.com/film-music.html
NaziActionFigure
11-18-2007, 04:30 AM
Also, if you sign up for a program on Moby's website, he has a section where you can download his songs for free if you're using them in an independent film.
Yeah, but you can't use them while depicting violence, animal cruelty, or SEX. WTF?
WesScog
11-18-2007, 04:44 AM
WTF!? I knew that damn hippie would screw us somehow! >=(
NaziActionFigure
11-18-2007, 04:58 AM
Yeah, you don't just download it, you have to apply for a license. Here's the stuff you have to submit and agree to.
Title of your Film: *
Creator/Owner/Director of Film: *
Brief description of the entire film: *
Description of scene where the music will be used: *
Are you a student or independant film maker?: * Yes
No
If you are not a student or independant film maker, please describe yourself below:
How will this film be used?: * eg: film festival, school project, personal / home video
You hereby confirm that by proceeding with this license, your film or solely for non-commercial uses i.e. explicitly for non-profit organizations.
You hereby confirm that this may not be made available for sale or public broadcasts (paid for). It may be used in film festivals and student (non-paying) venues.
You acknowledge that all songs remain the property of the artist, song writer and their record company and publisher and use hereof is limited only to your designated film.
You acknowledge that Moby has his own moral values and as such he stresses that any musical synchronisation (use) to acts of animal harm, acts of violence or any sexual acts are strictly prohibited.
Any license granted hereunder may be revoked at anytime at Moby or the copyright owners sole discretion in the event there has been any misuse or intentional misappropriaton of the terms and conditions contained herein.
Any inadvertant, illegal or blatant misuse of any music made available hereunder is a material breach of the terms and conditions and you will be vigorously pursued by the relevant copyright owner.
toxicvarn90
11-18-2007, 06:53 PM
WTF!? I knew that damn hippie would screw us somehow! >=(
Actually he's a born again Christian.
WesScog
11-18-2007, 07:17 PM
And a damn hippie. Hippie and Christian aren't by default removed from one another.
I own some of his albums, he has preachy liner notes crying about people using bleach to clean their cloths.
Scott
11-19-2007, 10:34 PM
I'm in search of 50's style movie music. I prefer it to be royalty free. If anybody can help, I would appreciate it.
punkandska66
11-19-2007, 10:44 PM
get rockabilly
like the stray cats or elvis.
Scott
11-20-2007, 12:01 AM
get rockabilly
like the stray cats or elvis.
No, that doesn't fit what I need.
I'm looking for sci-fi music.
deadbydawn
11-20-2007, 12:41 AM
You could try finding some cool indie bands on Myspace if you show interest in their music many would be glad to give you permisson to use some of thier song or you could make a track yourself using fruityloops or other music software.
SyxxGage
11-20-2007, 01:15 AM
Are you talking like the cheesey leave it to beaver type music? the kind they would play on old 50's school films?
eckert
11-20-2007, 11:47 AM
archive.org
Scott
11-21-2007, 12:04 AM
Are you talking like the cheesey leave it to beaver type music? the kind they would play on old 50's school films?
No dude, old sci-fi music.
DarkMirageProductions
11-21-2007, 12:20 AM
Search Myspace Music for anything with a theremin.
Flamingo With A Spoon Productions
11-22-2007, 05:51 PM
Record it off a movie. Research. A lot of old B-Movies didnt have any copyright I believe The Giant Gilla Monster or The Killer Shrews is one of them but I'm not sure. I did a bit a while back for They Saved Hitler's Brain 2 it really paid off. :dance:
The more overblown and mumbly the better. :dance:
SamsShortFilms
11-23-2007, 12:28 PM
This Is The Movie Music Request Thread.
Its simple, all you have to do is:
Post information of what kinda music you need and others will be able to suggest a solutionAND/OR
Post information on where others can get movie music (THIS WOULD BE REALLY REALLY HELPFUL)Thanks
:dance::p:dance::p:dance::p:dance::p
edwardlavender
11-23-2007, 12:46 PM
If you're talking about scores for film that hasn't been used or royalty free stuff...you can google that.
If you're talking about movie scores, or music that was used in movies...I have a bunch of that. PM me what music you need, and I'll let you know if I have it or can get it.
-zac
Prison Mike
11-23-2007, 02:19 PM
Yes, as the title states, i am looking for a free music composition program available for download for Windows.
I need one to make some music for my projects.
Know any good ones?
Thanks
toxicvarn90
11-23-2007, 02:37 PM
Tuxguitar: http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/
biohazard
11-23-2007, 04:41 PM
freeplaymusic
17thletterfilms
11-23-2007, 06:24 PM
freeplaymusic
Except that you can't use those in your movies unless you pay or they comply with this, which they won't:
http://freeplaymusic.com/licensing/termsofuse.php
Wraith 5
11-23-2007, 07:20 PM
Except that you can't use those in your movies unless you pay or they comply with this, which they won't:
http://freeplaymusic.com/licensing/termsofuse.php
Or unless the film is intended to be internationally released by a major film studio, in which case it's free, providing you give credit to the site. Again though, this is unlikely.
UndergroundMark
11-23-2007, 07:20 PM
I do a little composing and have a keyboard, and mixer etc so maybe I can do a LITTLE stuff for y'all, just email me at UndergroundMark@hotmail.com
Price: $2 a song ;) he he
BeyondForeverFilmss
11-23-2007, 08:09 PM
FruityLoops.com has a demo you can download for free. its a good program but takes a lot of learning.
ericslovechild
11-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Mixcraft
etentertainment
11-23-2007, 09:08 PM
Garageband...oops, Mac only =]
patriotic music with the drums and trumpet sort of thing when the amrines are bout to go inot their final batle
rab236
11-23-2007, 09:53 PM
mixcraft
vampyratejoe
11-24-2007, 12:41 PM
If you have a mac, garageband is an amazing tool. I don't know about what windows may have. But Garageband has a ton of preset instruments, if you can figure a little bit about music out, you can get away with a pretty decent score, royalty free. Especially the hollywood strings preset, which is basically an Orchestra.
mrsnowman
11-24-2007, 11:29 PM
garageband is cool but it only goes so far until you have to buy the add-ons
but yeah, garageband is sweet, my set-up goes from Celtx, to Final Cut, to GarageBand, to iMovie, to QuickTime.
Frog-man
11-25-2007, 12:00 PM
I'm quite into writin music - I have guitar pro and a feww things like that so I will write something that should fit ur needs.
e-mail me at Frog-man1@hotmail.com
Happy To Help
:thumbsup:
glmclainmovies
11-25-2007, 09:21 PM
Im tired of illegaly using music in my movies. I was wondering if there was a way I could easily make my own music, or get some royalty music. I looked on google but all i could find is royalty music where you have to pay like 200 dollars per album. can you help? I need like sci-fi music like in the alien quadrilogy or star wars
vega.
11-25-2007, 09:38 PM
just download fruity loops.
UndergroundMark
11-25-2007, 10:42 PM
I can make your music for you for a bit cheaper if you wish...
Around $5 a song if between 1 and 10 any amount over that is $3 a song ;)
SanitySource
11-26-2007, 09:11 PM
Hey, i have a question.
Does anyone know of any music that might have been played in the time of romeo and juliet?
Ive already looked through all my CD's and didnt find anything, i was thinking like harp music?
Scott
11-26-2007, 11:57 PM
Any other suggestions?
Scott
11-27-2007, 12:06 AM
Nevermind, I figured I would just rip off The Day The Earth Stood Still's music.
I figure if I'm going to rip something off I might as well go the full nine.
baron von fogel
11-27-2007, 12:17 AM
Forbidden Planet's soundtrack was performed entirely on the Theremin, so you might consider searching for some good theremin music to get that same feeling.
The Day the Earth Stood Still is pretty quintessencial though. It's hard to go wrong with Bernard Hermann. His score for Farenheit 451 is a good thing to check out too.
Scott
11-27-2007, 12:32 AM
Forbidden Planet's soundtrack was performed entirely on the Theremin, so you might consider searching for some good theremin music to get that same feeling.
The Day the Earth Stood Still is pretty quintessencial though. It's hard to go wrong with Bernard Hermann. His score for Farenheit 451 is a good thing to check out too.
I wasn't able to find any music from Forbidden Planet, nor much music with the Theramin.
Kohrsfilms
11-27-2007, 03:06 AM
I've been having the same problem with my sci fi movie. Most of the music I have is Bernard Hermann. He does some good stuff.
You might want to look into this site also.
http://www.valentinomusic.info/safesell/production%20music%20bizarre%20&%20ominous%20vol.%2069/192k/Production%20Music%20Bizarre%20&%20Ominous%20Vol.%2069.htm
The guys that made The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra got their music from Valentino. I think their tracks sounds awesome. So you should definately check it out!
Blaman
11-27-2007, 08:53 PM
A period piece? interesting
Prison Mike
11-29-2007, 06:05 PM
Hey all, i'm looking for a free FULL download of a music compostions program.....for windows!
I'd like one that can make like drums, guitar, and keyboard if any of you know of one.
Thanks a bunch
New Spark Films
11-29-2007, 06:13 PM
Did you even watch the sound episode? FL Studio.
Prison Mike
11-29-2007, 09:01 PM
no sorry, i haven't seen that one
New Spark Films
11-29-2007, 09:13 PM
Oh, well go to Fruityloops.com and download the demo, it won't let you save but you can export (basically the same thing).
bubblefax
11-29-2007, 09:25 PM
I tried fruity loops to confusing to figure out
mr Tree
11-29-2007, 10:31 PM
does anyone know where to find or how to create free suspense music like in the build up to something jumping out giving the audience a fright. ive tried searching but its hard without names.
bubblefax
11-29-2007, 10:35 PM
I would need that too
It's called a "sting" but that won't really make it much easier to search for, because you'll just get music by Sting.
mr Tree
11-29-2007, 11:16 PM
well has anyoneone got some that i could have if i asked nicely
edwardlavender
11-30-2007, 01:59 AM
Stings are easy to do. You can make them yourself if you wanted to.
Any sudden tone can be a Sting.
John Carpenter is the king of sting.
-zac
mr Tree
11-30-2007, 02:27 AM
Stings are easy to do. You can make them yourself if you wanted to.
yes..... well where do get one or what do i do !
cubes
11-30-2007, 06:47 PM
check out wavtracks.com and shockwavesound.com, good quality affordable royalty free buyout material.
Anthony573
12-01-2007, 04:27 PM
If you have a glass shattering sound effect, you could play that really loud and speed it up a bit. You would use that for when the monster guy pops out.
JoebIgBananapeel
12-01-2007, 04:41 PM
i have some suspense music if you hit me up on aim i can give it to you , but i made my own yeah , sexy fun time
Trentsickle
12-02-2007, 02:06 AM
Try http://www.newgrounds.com then click Audio portal and use the search system. There are alot of user-submitted music items there.
mr Tree
12-02-2007, 03:10 AM
Try http://www.newgrounds.com then click Audio portal and use the search system. There are alot of user-submitted music items there.
thanks sooo much dude.... found some great stuff !!!
Takara55
12-02-2007, 02:27 PM
www.freeplaymusic.com (http://www.freeplaymusic.com) :D
Alasdair
12-02-2007, 02:52 PM
hire an orchestra
funkychunk
12-02-2007, 10:07 PM
Go to www.freeplaymusic.com
They got it sorted out by feeling, such as suspenseful, cinematic, happy.etc Also sorted out by style.
It is all very good music for movies/videos and that is my number 1 resource I always go to.
Hope I helped.
ieatdirt
12-03-2007, 04:33 PM
I know its not a special effect. But lately I've noticed that the music for my movies is okay, but I want it to be better than that. I'm looking for music to fit the mood. Not today's hits. Or even music with any lyrics for that matter.
Are their any sites that can supply me great movie music?
Should I go out and buy movie soundtracks?
How do you work fruity loops?
Indy Mogul, or even mogulers on the forums, can you help me answers questions?
Brainstrained
12-03-2007, 04:51 PM
www.freeplaymusic.com
Apocalypse WOW!
12-03-2007, 05:36 PM
www.freeplaymusic.com (http://www.freeplaymusic.com)
awesome site.
ieatdirt
12-03-2007, 07:42 PM
www.freeplaymusic.com (http://www.freeplaymusic.com)
wow...this place is amazing. if only this forum had a drooling smilie.
St Jake
12-03-2007, 09:24 PM
Well I was planning to make some movies from my Halo 3 game (aka, Machinima) and it might be a series. So I'd need a theme song and some decent auto editing. I have Audacity and the demo of FL Studio 7, but I don't know how to make songs and music in FL Studio and I need to make a vocie sound like it's coming from a phone or like a stormtrooper voice, you know. Could someone tell me how to do this and/or give me a guide?
FyceDesigns
12-03-2007, 09:48 PM
For the voice alteration, just change recorded sounds in Audacity to have the lowest project rate. That gives a good phone effect. For the theme song, just take some loops from various sound sites, combine them, and add some effects. Good luck!
-Fyce
Alasdair
12-04-2007, 12:00 AM
Just listen to a whole bunch of music. Talk to your friends who likely have different music taste than you to suggest tracks. Download movie (all different genres!) sound tracks and listen to them. Ask us for suggestions for music. Talk to people!
b-smitty323
12-04-2007, 12:13 AM
I think it depends on what kind of movies your making. I like movie soundtracks if I'm going to make a serious movie. I've used a lot of music from the Bourne movies' soundtracks. I also like the music from the Ocean's series. Professional sounding music will probably make your videos a lot better, too.
Alasdair
12-04-2007, 12:22 AM
this may not be what you're looking for, but you'd have to make it REALLY original to pull it off. You're at a big disadvantage of using halo as a machima - everybody is going to be thinking "Oh lame, another kid trying to be red vs blue".
UndergroundMark
12-04-2007, 10:27 AM
I am a music composer, what exactly do you need theme song wise?
mrsnowman
12-04-2007, 12:55 PM
I could do a theme song?
ill post something later today
michaelbak
12-04-2007, 11:18 PM
Just use Garage Band.
Trentsickle
12-05-2007, 03:02 AM
thanks sooo much dude.... found some great stuff !!!
No problem, but remember to tell the author you are using it, they love it!
Westcroft
12-06-2007, 08:20 PM
Gigastudios and a midi controller... OR Reason 4 with a midi controller... DO IT UP!
RobsWorld247
12-10-2007, 10:29 AM
Does any one know of some good web sites to download some creative common use music? So we can freely use them in our video's, and not have to worry about big brother shutting us down.
We obviously credit any and all artists, and direct people back to that web site.
podsafeaudio.com is one we use but were looking for some others. And google is defietly loosing my support.
greatscot
12-10-2007, 03:17 PM
The Internet Archive is a wonderful resource for music, films, and books. Most of the stuff is in public domain and you would have to check.
http://www.archive.org/details/audio
Link to:
Welcome to the Archive's audio and MP3 library. This library contains over a hundred thousand free digital recordings ranging from alternative news programming, to Grateful Dead concerts, to Old Time Radio shows, to book and poetry readings, to original music uploaded by our users. Many of these audios and MP3s are available for free download.
One of their sections not in PD is this:
Welcome to the Live Music Archive. etree.org (http://wiki.etree.org/) is a community committed to providing the highest quality live concerts in a lossless, downloadable format. The Internet Archive has teamed up with etree.org to preserve and archive as many live concerts as possible for current and future generations to enjoy. All music in this Collection is from trade-friendly (http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=TradeFriendly) artists and is strictly noncommercial, both for access here and for any further distribution. Artists' commercial releases are off-limits. This collection is maintained by the etree.org community.
I would assume that you could email the artists and ask for using their material, another would be MP3.com, the music isn''t free, but, again, you could contact the artist.
http://www.archive.org/details/movies Just for good measure:
Welcome to the Archive's Moving Images library of free movies, films, and videos. This library contains thousands of digital movies which range from classic full-length films, to daily alternative news broadcasts, to videos of every genre uploaded by Archive users. Most of these movies are available for download.
I have gotten a lot of movies from here. Last year, I wrote and produced a live show based upon a 1950's TV Variety Show (think Milton Berle) and I got all of the commercials that I used from here.
I also remembered that I had read on the US Copyright Office web site, that a sound recording was in the Public Domain if it was made before a certain date (I think it was the mid 1970's), but I am not sure. If I get a chance, I will look it up and post the citation, or you can search yourself.
SteveNelson'sEvilTwin
12-10-2007, 06:21 PM
This thread already exists. Use the magic search button...
Scott
12-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Classical music is badass. Just use old Bach songs.
RobsWorld247
12-11-2007, 04:14 AM
This thread already exists. Use the magic search button...
Yea tried that. First few posts were not helpfull.
TheResignation00
12-11-2007, 01:43 PM
Freeplaymusic.com
mr Tree
12-12-2007, 12:03 AM
Newgrounds.com
RobsWorld247
12-12-2007, 12:08 AM
freeplay music is an awsome web site so far. Thank you.
Never thought of newgrounds. I only thought is was animation and games, I never noticed the music section. Thanks for that also.
Both great. I think we may be set for now. Lots of stuff to listen too. Yay
ciwi286
12-12-2007, 12:15 AM
Yea tried that. First few posts were not helpfull.
So look beyond the first few posts!
Its annoying when people post multiple threads out of laziness.
Doctor Webley
12-12-2007, 12:48 AM
For generic action music, a good place to look is in video games. Game designers make music specifically for action. There are no lyrics to distract from the scene, just intense background music. Download some media files at filefront.com.
RobsWorld247
12-12-2007, 01:51 AM
So look beyond the first few posts!
Its annoying when people post multiple threads out of laziness.
I do not want to be combative but...maybe you could be helpfull and direct me to the thread. Two people have told me this was covered before. Yet I can not find it nor have I been directed in such a dirrection. I find it anoying when people just don't follow the original reason for the thread.
I would not call myself lazy. I did look beyond the first few posts, and I still am because it's not something that could be read in a few hours. As a matter of fact I have looked over several posts that have the word "music" in it and I havn't found much usefull content. Except for what people have responded to me here. Thank you to them.
There are 265 results for threads and 500(might be the max) results for the word 'music' in a post. So sorry if I took it upon myself to start a thread for myself and ask for help from what is moslty helpfull people.
Oh yea sorry but I have take back my thank you on freeplay music.com...you have to pay for it.
I'm looking for music the is under "common use" or puplic domain. Free music, free download, free use, no worries about the law. It's rare but it's out there. like i said I was looking or a few more sites than what I have.
Also video game music will not work, for it is...copyrighted, which is what I am trying to avoid. Thanks for the sugestion.
However filefront.com seems like a great site. I saw they had some software to download where I could make my own music. sweet.
I'm about to go over to new grounds for the next few hrs.
RobsWorld247
12-12-2007, 04:03 AM
This so far all threads amounts to these sites.
http://gratis.moby.com/film-music.html (http://gratis.moby.com/film-music.html)
http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/ (http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/)
http://music.podshow.com/index.php (http://music.podshow.com/index.php)
http://www.musopen.com/ (http://www.musopen.com/) ***
http://www.freeplaymusic.com/index.php (http://www.freeplaymusic.com/index.php)
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/ (http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/)
For Vegas user u can get Acid pro,
amc760
12-13-2007, 06:27 PM
Okay..so I have two questions:
What kind of paperwork, if any, is needed to get music rights for your movie, when somebody you know is giving you permission to use their music.
If there's a post somewhere that is all about music rights, I would really appreciate the link.
secondly...does anyone know anywhere someone can buy a canon XL or GL2 on a financing plan? as in making payments..i don't think they do that anywhere, but itd be great.
gcubedproductions
12-13-2007, 08:28 PM
Music rights aren't needed as long as your video is non-commercial, but you should at least put the music in your credits.
As for the payments, I know Sears has payment plans for expensive things, but I'm not sure if they have the cameras you're looking for.
SanitySource
12-13-2007, 08:33 PM
i know a tiny bit, but you have to have the artists permisson, as well as the recording studios permission. now theres one hell of a week on the phone.
Scott
12-13-2007, 08:38 PM
If your movie starts to make money, the artist is going to usually want some kind of payment.
amc760
12-14-2007, 02:54 AM
thanks for the responses.
i meant more like a kid on his computer making music. festivals say all rights must be cleared. does that mean i have to have something to show them?
If i know a kids not gonna end up suing me..can i just have the music in the movie?
WesScog
12-14-2007, 03:07 AM
Just write a simple contract.
"I ____________, do hereby get permission from _____________, to use his music _______________, in my film ________________.
_____________ Agrees and understands that his music will be utilized in __________'s film.
____________ gives full permission for his musical track to be utilized in any way for exhibition both public and private of the film. ___________ also understands and gives permission for the use of his musical track in the film, understanding that it could have commercial and/or noncommercial release and distribution, distribution routes and formats may include but are not limited to, VHS, DVD, miniDV, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray disc, and digital formats.
______________ Agrees on a financial payment of ___________ (fill out $0 if he is letting you use it for free) for his music, and requires no royalty payments at a rate of ______. (If he does require royalty payments, just delete the 'no', and if he doesn't require royalty payments, just fill in a 0% in the percentage box.)
______________________ -Signature of Musician
______________________ -Signature of Filmmaker
________________ - Date
______________________ - Signature of Witness"
For the witness, just go down to your local bank, and ask them if they have a notary public avalible.
You go in, you sign it in front of the notary, they stamp it with an official seal, and sign that that they witnessed you two both sign the contract, he or she might ask to see your ID's before hand to establish both of your identidys.
If you're under 18, have your parents there to handle it for you.
But there you go, that's how to write up a contract that will hold up for most any festival, and SHOULD hold up in court (might differ in your state, but generally, when you agree on a contract like this, and both sign it in front of a notary, it's pretty binding.)
amc760
12-14-2007, 03:21 AM
great, thanks. I might also include something that says the artist agrees that the music hasn't used any copyrighted samples, in case it does happen to have a sample. That way I won't get burned.
I don't think we'll be able to sign it in person though. I might have to mail the paperwork or something
WesScog
12-14-2007, 03:28 AM
You could write in a clause,
"_____________, agrees that his musical work is original and his own work, and that any samples that may or may not be in his musical work were obtained by full permission from the original artist, or are utilizing royalty free music.
The original song that is sampled is _______________, by ______________, written in ___________ (Date of the original recording)."
If he sampled a big name artists song, he'll have to get an extract permission form like this from him.
And he'll have to deal with lots of legal wrangling and lawyers and fees.
If it's like a local musician that is self-represented, he just needs to get personal permission from him to utilize any samples of the work.
If the work is in public domain, you only need to explain that the original work is older than 75 years old, is in the public domain, and is royalty free.
Same with lots of royalty free loops, pretty sure you don't even have to mention where you got the loops from if they were royalty free tracks and samples from like Acid or Fruity Loops.
amc760
12-14-2007, 03:30 AM
all right. thanks a lot for all of that information!
Thats a lot of help
Alasdair
12-14-2007, 06:28 AM
where the fucking shit are the cannons I was promised
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2041/sigpr6.gif
RobsWorld247
12-14-2007, 07:05 AM
where the fucking shit are the cannons I was promised
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2041/sigpr6.gif
You have a penis for a horn.
Alasdair
12-14-2007, 07:06 AM
wait FUCK
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2041/sigpr6.gif
kapone
12-14-2007, 01:17 PM
dell.com has both the xl2 and gl2 for sale with payment plans. they also have the canon xh-a1. the xh-a1 and xl2 can be had for $102 a month and the gl2 for $72 a month.
WesScog
12-14-2007, 01:25 PM
Umm... Ok...?
kapone
12-15-2007, 02:24 AM
Umm... Ok...?
if that was directed at me, it was his second question.
quoting him
"secondly...does anyone know anywhere someone can buy a canon XL or GL2 on a financing plan? as in making payments..i don't think they do that anywhere, but itd be great."
groovin'larry
12-21-2007, 09:22 PM
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Murtux Productions
12-21-2007, 09:31 PM
the best audio editer that i recomend is GoldWave and is free :)
17thletterfilms
12-22-2007, 08:21 AM
You could buy MixCraft 3. http://www.acoustica.com/mixcraft/
Jonny_McBane
12-22-2007, 06:13 PM
Acid Pro is the best sound-editing program.
etentertainment
12-22-2007, 07:17 PM
Audition?
DeadFishProductions
12-22-2007, 07:46 PM
Audacity mofo!!!
SPARC
12-23-2007, 10:02 AM
" I need to make a voice sound like it's coming from a phone "
Then you need to mimic the audio response of a telephone handset. To reduce the bandwidth of audio in telephone conversations the audio passband of a telephone conversation is reduced greatly from the average humans hearing range which is around 20Hz to 20,000Hz. Telephone bandwidth is something like 200 to 2000Hz. FM Broadcast radio is wider, AM radio and shortwave and other communication modes all have different audio band widths, so do cell phones.
Murtux Productions
12-25-2007, 07:13 PM
hi everyone
i need a song for a claymation fight any sugestion ?
farion
12-25-2007, 10:27 PM
Mortal kombat. You can listen to it here. (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/sims/index.php?songid=4922)
Doctor Webley
12-25-2007, 10:51 PM
www.newgrounds.com/audio
Mr.Jowee
12-26-2007, 01:06 AM
i need a song for a claymation fight any sugestion ?
Do I?!
War - Why Can't We Be Friends?
Ode to Joy from Clockwork Orange (not sure who did that one)
Mozart's "Requiem"
Rush - Tom Sawyer
That song from Karate Kid during the karate tournament ("You're the best, around! Freakin' awesome.)
Just about anything by Pantera
Chimaera - Pure Hatred
Every Time I die - Kill the music
...
It's a pretty vague question. What kind of music do you like?
Murtux Productions
12-26-2007, 01:12 AM
thanks ! :)
EverydayTodayStudios
12-26-2007, 04:08 AM
Riot- Three Days Grace
Welcome to the Jungle- Guns N' Roses
Eye of the Tiger
dimaxx
12-26-2007, 07:31 AM
for fighting scenes i use brutal busic like Static X, Deftones, Six Feet Under
in this scene i used Korn - http://www.vimeo.com/430382 (http://www.vimeo.com/430382)
Eight Legged Freak
12-26-2007, 07:45 AM
Aren't there programs that allow you to create music out of thin air? Like synthesized instruments?
Captain SteveBeard
12-26-2007, 03:03 PM
Fruity Loops ^^
DeviousTom
12-26-2007, 03:24 PM
make a beat box lololololol
Crosius
12-26-2007, 04:22 PM
Ode to Joy from Clockwork Orange (not sure who did that one)
Wendy (né Walter) Carlos.
animatorflash9999
12-26-2007, 06:21 PM
does any one know the copyright rules for using songs or doing music videos?
animatorflash9999
12-26-2007, 06:31 PM
:) dont you just have to put the band and song in the credits?
Zombeast
12-26-2007, 06:38 PM
You need the bands permission. When did IM do an episode on this?
Kevinaz
12-26-2007, 06:39 PM
My dad is a registered with bmi, (he's a musician) and he told me that if you use any bmi published song for more than 35 or 45 seconds (don't quote me on this number), then you'll have to pay copyright fees to bmi.
Again, I'm not sure if this is true, as he hasn't dealt with bmi in years.
But as for a full music video, unless you pay royalty fees or own the actual rights to the music, no. If you distribute a video with any registered bmi or ascap song for any reason, you can get into some serious trouble.
animatorflash9999
12-26-2007, 06:45 PM
okay well i just thought that you only had to mention them becouse do you really think that all the music videos on youtube were approved?
animatorflash9999
12-26-2007, 06:46 PM
i mean if i made a song i would already get millions as long as he doesnt take credit and i get the credit i wouldnt care
animatorflash9999
12-26-2007, 06:49 PM
plus you have to buy thier whole cd to get the music should you really have to pay more to use and give them credit
Junior365
12-26-2007, 06:56 PM
Since when does this fall under "Show Discussion" either? And also, no need to triple post!
animatorflash9999
12-26-2007, 06:58 PM
dude no need to be a pessimist and if you dont want do help leave
Isn't it obvious?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XyhhFzE5O5U
Dun dun dun dun Daa dadun daa.
Crosius
12-26-2007, 10:50 PM
"Mars, Bringer of War" - Gustav Holst, "The Planets" Symphony.
There are some good bits in the soundtrack for "Alexander Nevsky"
(by Sergei Prokofiev)
The instrumental version of "Hysteria", "Stockholm Syndrome" and parts of "Fury" by Muse
"Here" by VAST
The instrumental version of "Cells", by The Servant (but it was used in Sin City)
"Oh, How the Great Have Fallen", by Raging Speedhorn
"Cannibal Song", by Ministry
"Follow Through", by Lilitu
gcubedproductions
12-26-2007, 10:51 PM
Any kind of hardcore music with a fast pace to it will get the job done.
New Spark Films
12-26-2007, 11:33 PM
The instrumental version of "Hysteria", "Stockholm Syndrome" and parts of "Fury" by Muse
Obviously those, you could also add "Assassin" to that list.
3dude6
12-27-2007, 12:57 AM
uh eye of the tiger or guna fly now?
WesScog
12-27-2007, 02:18 AM
No, you can't get a pass just by giving them credit, you have to get permission FROM the band.
If it's a band you know, like a local band, or friends of yours, all you need to do is ask for permission, if you think you might make money off of the video, and the band might want a cut, then get that all down on paper before hand. Just sign, "The Musicians ________ agree to let me _________, use their song _________, in my work _________, for the amount of __________."
Then get it signed and witnessed by a notary at your local bank. Then you'll have some legal proof that they are letting you use their music for a predesignated price (hopefully you'll just be able to put "For FREE" or $0 in the blank.
If you want to try to get permission from a REAL band that you don't know, if they are a smaller, or and indie band, they will MIGHT let you use it if you're just going to be using it for non-profit reasons, like on YouTube. But it might be a pain to try to contact them.
A few musicians, like Moby for instance, let's you register on his website to use his music for free for Non-Commercial reasons (like YouTube, and short films.)
If you make NO MONEY off of it, and you make a fan music video, no record company will waste the money to sue you, especially if you credit them, you will just get the video taken off of YouTube if they complain about it.
But don't assume just because it's unlikely that they'll take action, that they WON'T. Never heard of it happening to someone that didn't make any money off of it, but not saying it could NEVER happen.
It's simply a much better idea to make your own music, from the Royalty free tracks on something like ACID. Use the prebuilt music from something like Soundtrack Pro, OR, use public domain music.
MOST all classical music, (or any music 75 years or older) is in the Public Domain.
http://www.archive.org/index.php
Check out Archive.org, great database of public domain work, you might find some nice music there.
Strictly speaking, you must obtain a synchronization license for permission from the song's writer, and possibly a master recording license to use the recording of the song.
That 35-second rule has to be wrong, otherwise a 30-second commercial could use any song it wants for free.
But in practice, if you don't try to turn a profit from it, they probably won't bother with you.
music actualy has 2 copyrights on it, the composition and the performance, and some clasical music wich should be in the public domain is copyright protected by the composers estate (usualy the famely or in some cases, thanks to Disney, a corperation), to make mathers even more fun, copyright laws are different in different countries.
You could go the fair use route but thats a very complicated mather and even if your right it can cost you a lot, just watch the documantery "Sonic Outlaws" about the troubles Negative Land had with U2.
So i guess there are 3 options.
1. Pay/beg for the right to use somebodies music.
2. Copyright free material, could be public domain and Creative Commons.
3. Original music, either make it yourself or find somebody to do it for you.
I would go for 3, it makes your film more your own uniqe film.
And do some research into copyright to learn what you can and can't do, for example, in the Netherlands you don't have to pay an architect if his building is photographed or filmed because it's in public space and if i'm not mistaking the same goes for statues.
But it might be different in America or Japan or whereever you make your film
animatorflash9999
01-04-2008, 05:40 PM
:) im thinking of using music and stuff for videos but i dont knowm copy right laws dont you just have to mention the band and album?
next-tarantino
01-04-2008, 05:45 PM
Uh, usually you have to get their permission.
What song by what band are you wanting to use?
New Spark Films
01-04-2008, 05:46 PM
No, no, no, no... You need permission. Didn't you post like 20 threads like this?
animatorflash9999
01-04-2008, 05:48 PM
i mean since i like my chemical romance (im not emo) i was thinking use some of thier music but apparently that wont fly
animatorflash9999
01-04-2008, 05:51 PM
oh and im in middle school i dont like stuff like that (being paper work )
next-tarantino
01-04-2008, 05:55 PM
Or, you can just do what I do when I don't want to worry about copyright BS, make your own music.
It's that simple.
WesScog
01-04-2008, 05:59 PM
oh and im in middle school i dont like stuff like that (being paper work )
If you're serious about becoming a film maker, you'll need to learn to handle this stuff.
Brainstrained
01-04-2008, 06:31 PM
How would I prove a song is public domain? In my movie I have the song "Hound Dog" by Elvis, and I know it's public domain, but what would I put for the credit and would I need some sort of paperwork to prove it's public domain?
jburas
01-04-2008, 06:50 PM
In my movie I have the song "Hound Dog" by Elvis, and I know it's public domain
I'm almost certain that "Hound Dog" is still under copyright. It's too recent to fall in public domain and there's no way anyone would let the copyright expire for such a valuable song.
Brainstrained
01-04-2008, 07:01 PM
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KMProductions
01-04-2008, 07:20 PM
My dad works in the music business so I know this stuff.
You can use up to 10% of the song.
You can ask them but you need a signed document.
Credits are a must.
I'm 99% sure about this stuff. I'll ask my dad and see.
next-tarantino
01-04-2008, 07:31 PM
My dad works in the music business so I know this stuff.
You can use up to 10% of the song.
You can ask them but you need a signed document.
Credits are a must.
I'm 99% sure about this stuff. I'll ask my dad and see.
So, does that mean that you can use up to 10% of any song, completely free of any charge? (assuming you credit the artist, of course)
jburas
01-04-2008, 07:36 PM
Well wuddayaknow, I stand corrected.
Typical music credits go like this:
Song Title
Written by (Songwriter)
*(Publisher)
Performed by (Performer)
*Courtesy of (Record Label)*I assume you can ignore these for public domain.
It's pretty common knowledge about the song, so I bet you wouldn't need any paperwork. I guess as a courtesy to the record label and to protect yourself, you should credit it this way:
Hound Dog
Written by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
Performed by Elvis Presley
Recorded for RCA Records in 1956
New Spark Films
01-04-2008, 07:50 PM
My dad works in the music business so I know this stuff.
You can use up to 10% of the song.
You can ask them but you need a signed document.
Credits are a must.
I'm 99% sure about this stuff. I'll ask my dad and see.
So in theory I could use over a minute of godspeed you! black emperor's East Hastings legally? I used it in a trailer, but I don't think I would in the actual movie, just because composing original music makes it more your own project which gives you a better feeling about it.
Wraith 5
01-04-2008, 08:02 PM
Cut several clips of similar sounding music together to make a whole unique track, as long as each section is under 10% of each song, you could be fine.. (I'm just speculating here).
Mr.Jowee
01-04-2008, 08:05 PM
What if I'm not making any money off of the video?
I know skate videos use copyrighted music all the time, and they pretty much just get away with it. So does just about everything on YouTube. Not saying it's legal, just saying it's a victimless crime (like punching someone in the dark).
The 10% thing can't be unlimited, people have been taken to court over single note samples.
Probably the 10% is for "commentary and criticism," which means for example if you make a show where you do music reviews, you can play clips of the songs. But if you're making a regular movie and want to stick 10% of the song on the soundtrack, you need permission.
And yeah, if you're not making any money off it, you're still technically in the wrong, but the copyright owners won't bother stopping you.
Well wuddayaknow, I stand corrected.I think that the point of confusion is that different countries have different term lengths for copyright. It may still be under copyright in the United States. The Elvis CD is produced in the U.K. where sound recordings are public domain 50 years after publication, while in the States it's 95 years.
theprynce
01-05-2008, 02:19 AM
podsafeaudio.com
That's a great place to find good music of any sort to use in videos and you only have to credit them. Or Google Derek Audette. I've used a lot of his stuff lately.
Hammer got sued for sampling Rick James and it was just a clip repeated. Same for Vanilla Ice/Queen.
-=The Prynce
KMProductions
01-05-2008, 05:46 PM
My dad is in the music bussiness and he said that legally you can use 10% of the song without breaking any laws
So a song that is 3 minutes, you can use 18 seconds for free.
And public domain in the US is 75 hours after the owner dies. Elvis hasn't been dead for 75 years, therefore Hound Dog is not public domain.
KMProductions
01-05-2008, 05:50 PM
My dad is a registered with bmi, (he's a musician) and he told me that if you use any bmi published song for more than 35 or 45 seconds (don't quote me on this number), then you'll have to pay copyright fees to bmi.
Again, I'm not sure if this is true, as he hasn't dealt with bmi in years.
But as for a full music video, unless you pay royalty fees or own the actual rights to the music, no. If you distribute a video with any registered bmi or ascap song for any reason, you can get into some serious trouble.
This is a comman misconception, It's not 30 seconds but 10%. People often think "oh a 10% of a 3 minute song is 30 seconds" but that is wrong because minutes aren't 100 seconds long. That is where the 30 second thing came from.
Wraith 5
01-05-2008, 06:18 PM
Some of Derek Audette's music is awesome. I can just visualise scenes for future films appear in my mind as I listen.
Podsafe audio isn't loading though.
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