Argh rep

[bridboyross]

I have been given two lots of rep lately that had positive comments but were actually negative, is this a glitch or are these people really not able to distinguish between a positive and negative reputation? One was definetely from sickness inc and the other is from someone on my manhunt thread who wrote "nice guy. cant wait for his manhunt movie" next to my recently recieved "rep".

[uhrisuh]

It happens to me all the time .. nice comments but neg rep .. i think it's just an accident. don't worry you're # 2!

a question i have.. how long does it take to give the same person more rep? It's been a month or so and i still can't give them good feedback.

[Brainstrained]

How do you even check your rep? And I think it's not by how long until you can give rep again, just by how many other people you give it to.

[uhrisuh]

How do you even check your rep? And I think it's not by how long until you can give rep again, just by how many other people you give it to.


Just click User CP and there is a little table that say last reputation recieved.

[ciwi286]

Ive god a few were people have told me they gave me good rep, theres a good comment but the rep is neutral! the little box thing is just gray!

[ericslovechild]

Yeah, what's up with neutral rep?

[FyceDesigns]

I complimented somebody's movie, and I got negative rep, complaining about the orange text I always type in. WTF!?

-Fyce

[ericslovechild]

I often highlight your text so that it's blue. :D

[New Spark Films]

I complimented somebody's movie, and I got negative rep, complaining about the orange text I always type in. WTF!?

-Fyce

Yeah I think you should change the orange text.

[WesScog]

I occasional get really insulting messages in my rep, but most of my rep is really positive.

[BonOfTheDead]

rep? what? i have a reputation? i cant find it...
oh wow, post number 123

[WesScog]

Click on "User CP" it's on the far left of the gray bar, with FAQ, Members List, Calender, New Posts, Search, etc.

[BonOfTheDead]

i dont have anything. crap, i cant be trusted to give information because i havent been recognized as a person yet.

oh yeah! 11 points -==/=\=:<

[uhrisuh]

I occasional get really insulting messages in my rep, but most of my rep is really positive.


I get really vulgar comments, but it's always followed by nice rep..

Some of you boys need to learn some manners...

[bridboyross]

It is not a glitch, thanks to new spark films and someone else for proving this (the second person did not make their name viewable), I guess some people are not sure how to use the reputation function.

[New Spark Films]

While it lasts... I'm #3 on the rep list! It feels kind of strange to be ranked higher than Steve on anything... But congrats to Urisuh and Ross too for making top 3!

[17thletterfilms]

I got some rep once. XD

[ciwi286]

While it lasts... I'm #3 on the rep list! It feels kind of strange to be ranked higher than Steve on anything... But congrats to Urisuh and Ross too for making top 3!

actually you're ranked the same as Steve...It groups it into people with the same amount of points (in your case im guessing 14) and then sorts alphabetically

[New Spark Films]

actually you're ranked the same as Steve...It groups it into people with the same amount of points (in your case im guessing 14) and then sorts alphabetically

Yeah I know, I should've said "listed".

[punkandska66]

While it lasts... I'm #3 on the rep list! It feels kind of strange to be ranked higher than Steve on anything... But congrats to Urisuh and Ross too for making top 3!

how do you get to that page

[uhrisuh]

actually you're ranked the same as Steve...It groups it into people with the same amount of points (in your case im guessing 14) and then sorts alphabetically


wait what? i don't understand....


how do you get to that page


Click member list, and then reputation...

[FyceDesigns]

Jeez, some people need to stop being wusses and just sign their freakin' names. I've gotten like 4 neutral and negative reps for no reason at all, saying things like "Fyce is gay" and "Your attempt at trying to be different by using a bold font has failed. You're just as stupid as everybody else." Crap, people, I'm not trying to attract attention when I type in bold, I just type how I do on every forum. They wouldn't give us font controls if it was "such a sin" to use them...

-Fyce

[Scott]

Jeez, some people need to stop being wusses and just sign their freakin' names. I've gotten like 4 neutral and negative reps for no reason at all, saying things like "Fyce is gay" and "Your attempt at trying to be different by using a bold font has failed. You're just as stupid as everybody else." Crap, people, I'm not trying to attract attention when I type in bold, I just type how I do on every forum. They wouldn't give us font controls if it was "such a sin" to use them...

-Fyce



Just because you feel the need to type your name after everything, doesn't mean everyone else should.



-Fyce

[Alasdair]

how else would you know who was typing the post?

-Scott

[Scott]

how else would you know who was typing the post?

-Scott




Beats me.




-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

Calm down, Scott and Alasdair! This is the way I type on other forums and websites, and it's kind of a natural reflex to sign my name. And if you can't handle it, then LEAVE. Besides, why do you freak out about a little thing, like me typing in bold, or signing my name. I'm not killing anybody, jeez.

-Fyce

[Scott]

Calm down, Scott and Alasdair! This is the way I type on other forums and websites, and it's kind of a natural reflex to sign my name. And if you can't handle it, then LEAVE.

-Fyce

Who says we're all worked up about it?



-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

Who says we're all worked up about it?



-Fyce
Because, Scott, this is not the first time you've gotten pissed about me signing my name, and, Alasdair, this is definately not the first time you've freaked out about me typing in bold.

[Scott]

Because, Scott, this is not the first time you've gotten pissed about me signing my name, and, Alasdair, this is definately not the first time you've freaked out about me typing in bold.



I'm not pissed at you Fyce.




-Fyce

[Alasdair]

I'm jerking off with rage but since I'm so angry I'm squishing my dick in my fist

-Scott

[FyceDesigns]

I'm not pissed at you Fyce.




-Fyce
Oh, yeah, you're hilarious. Comedy knockout!

[Scott]

Oh, yeah, you're hilarious. Comedy knockout!


Thank you so much. You've made my day so much better.





-Fyce

[Alasdair]

you shouldn't freak out at my font it's just the way i am you know i'm original i like to stnad out i do this on lots of other forums

-Scott

[FyceDesigns]

Thank you so much. You've made my day so much better.





-Fyce
Hey man, no problem. :)

[Scott]

Hey man, no problem. :)


Whats wrong Fyce? You quit typing your name after your posts. Am I making you mad?




-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

you shouldn't freak out at my font it's just the way i am you know i'm original i like to stnad out i do this on lots of other forums

-Scott
Wait, so next you're gonna get mad at me for not wearing the exact same brand of clothes as everyone else? Or not having a Myspace like everybody else seems to have?

-Fyce

PS: I'm not good at standing out, but when it comes to stnading out, I'm A+!

[Alasdair]

yeah man this is just me being original, the only way i can really be original is through silly fonts

[Scott]

Wait, so next you're gonna get mad at me for not wearing the exact same brand of clothes as everyone else? Or not having a Myspace like everybody else seems to have?

-Fyce

PS: I'm not good at standing out, but when it comes to stnading out, I'm A+!



Are you actually trying to not be like everyone else?


How does one stnad out?



-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

Are you actually trying to not be like everyone else?


How does one stnad out?



-Fyce
Lemme just say that you're really keeping this up for a long time.

Anyways, stnading out is being different. Since I can't show my movies on here, because I don't have a Youtube account, and Vimeo is slow as crap, I choose to be different in other ways.

-Fyce

[Alasdair]

That's really sort of sad if this is your way of standing out. Try using your personality.

[Scott]

Lemme just say that you're really keeping this up for a long time.

Anyways, stnading out is being different. Since I can't show my movies on here, because I don't have a Youtube account, and Vimeo is slow as crap, I choose to be different in other ways.

-Fyce


Oh am I? I wasn't aware. I'm glad you pointed this out to me, because I never would have figured it out on my own. You're the best!



Well I'm sure your movies aren't worth watching anyway.



-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

That's really sort of sad if this is your way of standing out. Try using your personality.
I have been, just like you have been. Unfortunately for you, your personality is a control freak who gets pissed about every little detail.

-Fyce

[Scott]

I have been, just like you have been. Unfortunately for you, your personality is a control freak who gets pissed about every little detail.

-Fyce



What makes you think that is his personality? Just because the guy expresses a couple of opinions?


-Fyce

[Alasdair]

I'm pretty much the exact opposite of a control freak

[Alasdair]

Why can't you get a youtube account, all you need is an email :confused:

[Scott]

Why can't you get a youtube account, all you need is an email :confused:


Fyce doesn't have an e-mail address because Fyce doesn't want one. Fyce wants to stand out amongst the others because Fyce's bold text makes him original!


-Fyce

[Alasdair]

you need an email to be on these forums too :confused:

[Scott]

you need an email to be on these forums too :confused:


Fyce didn't need one because Fyce is special.


-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

Look, you two really must have nothing better to do than attempt to make fun of me and complain than the text style I use happens to be a bit different than yours. Do you do this to everybody you know who's different?

-Fyce

[Scott]

Look, you two really must have nothing better to do than attempt to make fun of me and complain than the text style I use happens to be a bit different than yours. Do you do this to everybody you know who's different?

-Fyce


You must really have nothing better to do than think of insignificant ways to "stand out". Do you do this on every board you post on?

-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

You must really have nothing better to do than think of insignificant ways to "stand out". Do you do this on every board you post on?

-Fyce
Way to stretch to truth, Scott. I type the way I type because it's my signature way of typing. Kinda like the kid you always see at school, wearing a cool hat. He's not trying to get attention, he's just wearing a hat. Jeez, you need to actually support your side of the argument, rather than constantly try to make fun of me, and fail.

-Fyce

[New Spark Films]

You must really have nothing better to do than think of insignificant ways to "stand out". Do you do this on every board you post on?




Forgetting the whole formatting thing or whatever, am I the only one who thinks this is a little hypocritical of Scott to say?

[FyceDesigns]

Forgetting the whole formatting thing or whatever, am I the only one who thinks this is a little hypocritical of Scott to say?
I second that.

[ciwi286]

Forgetting the whole formatting thing or whatever, am I the only one who thinks this is a little hypocritical of Scott to say?

HAHAHA...too true!

[Scott]

Way to stretch to truth, Scott. I type the way I type because it's my signature way of typing. Kinda like the kid you always see at school, wearing a cool hat. He's not trying to get attention, he's just wearing a hat. Jeez, you need to actually support your side of the argument, rather than constantly try to make fun of me, and fail.

-Fyce


My only argument is that you are a special little boy that mommy loves dearly.


-Fyce

[Scott]

Forgetting the whole formatting thing or whatever, am I the only one who thinks this is a little hypocritical of Scott to say?


Do you think that you're a little gay?

-Fyce

[Scott]

I second that.


I third that. Because it makes me stand out.

-Fyce

[New Spark Films]

Do you think that you're a little gay?

-Fyce

Nah, I know I'm not. Obviously you wish I was, which for me is slightly creepy...

[FyceDesigns]

I third that. Because it makes me stand out.

-Fyce
Heheh, you're a knockout! El oh el!

No, really, Snott, you're the only person who thinks you're funny. I mean, unless you count that Alasdair thing as a person.

[New Spark Films]

Heheh, you're a knockout! El oh el!

No, really, Snott, you're the only person who thinks you're funny. I mean, unless you count that Alasdair thing as a person.


I agree, it's just so true...

[punkandska66]

lol, scott just gave me a neg. rep. either him or alasidir, but most likely scott

[FyceDesigns]

lol, scott just gave me a neg. rep. either him or alasidir, but most likely scott
For what reason, may I ask...?

-Fyce

[punkandska66]

i dunno, it just says "great post ****nuts" which i think is SO mature of you scott, spoken like a true adult.

[FyceDesigns]

i dunno, it just says "great post ****nuts" which i think is SO mature of you scott, spoken like a true adult.
Honestly, Scott is a real American hero, just like GI Joe, but better. </sarcasm>

-Fyce

[New Spark Films]

i dunno, it just says "great post ****nuts" which i think is SO mature of you scott, spoken like a true adult.

Oh yeah, very mature. I would give you some rep but I apparently gave you some recently so it won't let me.

[Scott]

Heheh, you're a knockout! El oh el!

No, really, Snott, you're the only person who thinks you're funny. I mean, unless you count that Alasdair thing as a person.




-Fyce

[punkandska66]

you gave me rep? when?

[Scott]

lol, scott just gave me a neg. rep. either him or alasidir, but most likely scott


http://www.sternplanet.com/boards/images/gifs/reservoir_dogs-worlds_smallest_violin.gif

[New Spark Films]

you gave me rep? when?

I don't really remember, I'm sure I had a reason, all I know is that it won't let me give you any more rep.

[punkandska66]

http://www.sternplanet.com/boards/images/gifs/reservoir_dogs-worlds_smallest_violin.gif

lol

[Scott]

Honestly, Scott is a real American hero, just like GI Joe, but better. My mom says we should hang out sometime.

-Fyce




-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

-Fyce
Wow, I wonder how many more posts about my mom Scott will make before the joke gets even funnier!

-Fyce

[Scott]

Wow, I wonder how many more posts about my mom Scott will make before the joke gets even funnier!

-Fyce


K.



-Fyce

[punkandska66]

ya. i think "your mom" isnt funny anymore. even if bill nye said it.

[FyceDesigns]

K.



-gay for Fyce
That answer should be given an award.

-The Real Fyce

[Scott]

ya. i think "your mom" isnt funny anymore. even if bill nye said it.


Your mom


-Fyce

[Scott]

That answer should be given an award.

-The Real Fyce

vampire


-Fyce

[punkandska66]

anime

[Scott]

dwarf vampyres

[punkandska66]

dragon- werewolf

[New Spark Films]

Oh yeah, I got some negative rep along with a HILARIOUS comment... (sarcasm)

Not that "teh uber gh3y" isn't just a riot...

[Scott]

dragon- werewolf

Thats real mature dude. I'm sick and tired of your games. All you do is go around pissing everyone off on this board. I am sick and tired of all of your crap. I'm reporting you to the moderators.

[punkandska66]

ya cause there gonna take me away, as opposed to you

[ciwi286]

EDIT: nevermind

[punkandska66]

yep. but its ok becuase its all scott's fault, lol

[Scott]

ya cause there gonna take me away, as opposed to you


Well look at you Mr. Funny Man. I hope you enjoy your time away.

[Scott]

yep. but its ok becuase its all scott's fault, lol


LOL!!!!


-Fyce

[punkandska66]

ok i'll enjoy my time awy

[FyceDesigns]

Well look at you Mr. Funny Man. I hope you enjoy your time away.
Better than you, Ms. Funny Woman.

-Fyce

[Scott]

Better than you, Ms. Funny Woman.

-Fyce


LOL!!!!


-Fyce

[punkandska66]

its ironic. all scott's posts are hilarious when there not directed towards you. really. i honeslty like reading your posts, scott. this isnt sarcasm.

[Scott]

its ironic. all scott's posts are hilarious when there not directed towards you. really. i honeslty like reading your posts, scott. this isnt sarcasm.

You're going nowhere.



Where you goin'?


Fuckin' nowhere!


-Fyce

[punkandska66]

i knw, im sitting at my computer. hence, not moving. but i meant was i find your posts funny when you arent directing them towards me.

[FyceDesigns]

Wow, Scott, that's really pathetic. You keep attempting to make fun of me by signing my name, and typing all big, and talking about how I "try to stand out," but really, you're attracting attention to you and your stupid, pointless posts.

-Fyce

[Scott]

Wow, Scott, that's really pathetic. You keep attempting to make fun of me by signing my name, and typing all big, and talking about how I "try to stand out," but really, you're attracting attention to you and your stupid, pointless posts.

-Fyce


And you keep reading and responding to them.



-Fyce

[punkandska66]

ya and he has a picture of sivhead for his avatar(cause hes gay) but thats ok, i have nothing wrong with gay people.

[Scott]

ya and he has a picture of sivhead for his avatar(cause hes gay) but thats ok, i have nothing wrong with gay people.


I don't really think he's gay. I just think he is a douche. Calling him gay, and even saying the word gay makes him want to respond to my retarded posts. So let him learn his lesson.


-Fyce

[punkandska66]

i meant you, not sivhead. irish people cant be gay.

[FyceDesigns]

And you keep reading and responding to them.



-Fyce
You do realize that this whole argument is your fault, right? I simply posted about how people are irresponsible about the rep button, and you went off complaining about something completely unrelated. Then we went on to argue for seven pages, all because you're some kid who sits at home all day, trying to be all tough by making fun of me. Get over it. I type the way I type.

-Fyce

[Scott]

i meant you, not sivhead. irish people cant be gay.


Well I'm not gay. But if you're looking I'm sure they have websites for that.


-Fyce

[Scott]

You do realize that this whole argument is your fault, right? I simply posted about how people are irresponsible about the rep button, and you went off complaining about something completely unrelated. Then we went on to argue for seven pages, all because you're some kid who sits at home all day, trying to be all tough be making fun of me. Get over it. I type the way I type.

-Fyce


No, I'm just a kid who sits home all day because he is waiting to take his finals and chooses to waste his free time to fuck with retards like you.


-Fyce

[punkandska66]

see you are gay.

[Scott]

see you are gay.


Yep. Wanna hang out sometime?


-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

No, I'm just a kid who sits home all day because he is waiting to take his finals and chooses to waste his free time to fuck with retards like you.


-Fyce
This sounds crazy, but you could try going outside and maybe, just maybe, try doing something of worth. I don't know where I'm going with this, though. You probably won't give two craps about what I'm saying.

-Fyce

[Scott]

This sounds crazy, but you probably won't give two craps about what I'm saying.

-Fyce


You are correct.


-Fyce

[punkandska66]

Yep. Wanna hang out sometime?


-Fyce



i'll pass

[FyceDesigns]

You are correct.


-Fyce
Why am I not surprised?

[New Spark Films]

Hey Scott, keep up the whole "typing like Fyce" thing. Sure, nobody else finds it funny, but you do, so it's worth it, right?

[Scott]

i'll pass


That makes me so sad. :'(

-Fyce

[Scott]

Hey Scott, keep up the whole "typing like Fyce" thing. Sure, nobody else finds it funny, but you do, so it's worth it, right?


Now you're beginning to understand.


-Fyce

[Scott]

Why am I not surprised?


Me neither.


-Fyce

[Scott]

Snott



-Fyce

[daydreamer1]

1337 sucks,and are you all high or something?

[FyceDesigns]

El oh el, guys, you're hilarious!

[FyceDesigns]

I ONLY HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR WHEN HIGH ON PCP
Obviously...

[daydreamer1]

Obviously...

Yay,you didn't "quote" your name this time.Why do you do it anyways?We know its you.

[daydreamer1]

WHO THE FUCK MADE THIS POST

NO NAME IS ATTACHED


Yo Mamma

[Scott]

1337 sucks,and are you all high or something?


High on life my friend, high on life.



And heroin.


-Fyce

[Scott]

El oh el, guys, you're hilarious!


-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

WHO THE FUCK MADE THIS POST

NO NAME IS ATTACHED

Yeah, real funny...You should seriously consider a comedy club.

[Scott]

shit what do i do

he's sarcastically calling me funny

shitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt


How will we ever know when he's telling the truth?


We are Fyce. Resistance is futile!

-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

Holy crap, you guys are idiots. And I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. Really, you need lives. "Yeah, Mom, today I tried to make fun of this Fyce kid on this one website. I even used a pink font! Aren't you proud of me, Mom?"

[Scott]

Holy crap, you guys are idiots. And I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. Really, you need lives. "Yeah, Mom, today I tried to make fun of this Fyce kid on this one website. I even used a pink font! Aren't you proud of me, Mom?"

You probably should stop with your retarded humor. Its not making anyone laugh. I am only trying to stand out when I type my name in bold because I can't upload movies. I wish you guys would just grow up.


-Fyce

[daydreamer1]

Boo this is boring.

[Scott]

Boo this is boring.

Sir, I don't appreciate the attitude. You're not contributing to the boards. All you ever do is run around and tell people that their posts are boring. Can't you do better than that?


-Fyce

[daydreamer1]

Sir, I don't appreciate the attitude. You're not contributing to the boards. All you ever do is run around and tell people that their posts are boring. Can't you do better than that?


-Fyce

What?The only thing that is happening is that everyone is quoting people and stuff.

FYI:I'm a girl (and thats the fun fact of the day!):teehee:

[FyceDesigns]

Sir, I don't appreciate the attitude. You're not contributing to the boards. All you ever do is run around and tell people that their posts are boring. Can't you do better than that?


-Fyce
Look, I stopped signing my name and bolding my posts. But you still insist on being an idiot, and stealing my identity, then go ahead. But I created that logo I use as an avatar, and if you want to use it, ask for permission next time.

[daydreamer1]

DISREGARD THIS, I SUCK COCKS!

-Fyce


Good for you

[Scott]

Look, I stopped signing my name and bolding my posts. But you still insist on being an idiot, and stealing my identity, then go ahead. But I created that logo I use as an avatar, and if you want to use it, ask for permission next time.


Sir, I believe you have stolen my identity. You purposely stole my avatar, signature, and name. I was only trying to stand out from the rest. Next time ask for MY permission.


-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

Sir, I believe you have stolen my identity. You purposely stole my avatar, signature, and name. I was only trying to stand out from the rest. Next time ask for MY permission.


-Fyce
Shut up and stop being a cock. As I said before, I'm typing just how everybody else does. I don't see why you STILL insist on making fun of me, when all I'm trying to do is have a bit of fun and learn a few new things about filmmaking on this forum.

Obviously, you're just going to quote me and type in bold about "I'm just trying to be an individual." Just drop the act. You and Alasdair aren't funny and you never will be. I'll admit, that whole identity-stealing thing was a tiny bit clever, something that a 9-year-old could think of, but now it's over. Done for. So I'd really appreciate it if you two would just stop it.

[Scott]

Shut up and stop being a cock. As I said before, I'm typing just how everybody else does. I don't see why you STILL insist on making fun of me, when all I'm trying to do is have a bit of fun and learn a few new things about filmmaking on this forum.

Obviously, you're just going to quote me and type in bold about "I'm just trying to be an individual." Just drop the act. You and Alasdair aren't funny and you never will be. I'll admit, that whole identity-stealing thing was a tiny bit clever, something that a 9-year-old could think of, but now it's over. Done for. So I'd really appreciate it if you two would just stop it.

As I said before, I'm just trying to stand out. I don't see why you STILL insist on telling me to quit making fun of you when I'm clearly not when all I'm trying to do is have a bit of fun on this forum.

Obviously I'm not quoting you and yes I do type in bold about how I am trying to be an individual. You sir, should drop the act. You're not fooling anyone.


-Fyce

[FyceDesigns]

As I said before, I'm just trying to stand out. I don't see why you STILL insist on telling me to quit making fun of you when I'm clearly not when all I'm trying to do is have a bit of fun on this forum.

Obviously I'm not quoting you and yes I do type in bold about how I am trying to be an individual. You sir, should drop the act. You're not fooling anyone.


-Fyce
hay guise, i theenk your beeing dumb. your nott indivijual at awl. love,

-scott

[SteveNelson'sEvilTwin]

Now, that is a comeback!

[edwardlavender]

This is worse than the time me and Tako Punch had a flame war...and that spanned three separate threads.

-Fyce (I couldn't resist)

[FyceDesigns]

-Fyce (I couldn't resist)
Yes, you could've. Remember those resistance breathing exercises? In...out...in...out...now you're getting it!...In...out...in...out...

[edwardlavender]

Yes, you could've. Remember those resistance breathing exercises? In...out...in...out...now you're getting it!...In...out...in...out...

It's weird...because you're talking to me like I responded to you already, like we were having a conversation or something...you asked me if I remembered those resistance breathing exercises...and then you acted like I said yes and then you assured me that I was "getting it"

But it's weird because I know no breathing exercises that you speak of. And if you had really asked me and waited for a reply...I would have said No, and I would have probably walked away from you before you started getting into the demonstration.

I'm not going to flame you, you seem to be having your ass handed to you by the resident flamers (and not of the homosexual variety) of IndyMogul. But rest assured...you don't want another one added to the list of people who are owning you on a constant basis.

-zac

[FyceDesigns]

It's weird...because you're talking to me like I responded to you already, like we were having a conversation or something...you asked me if I remembered those resistance breathing exercises...and then you acted like I said yes and then you assured me that I was "getting it"

But it's weird because I know no breathing exercises that you speak of. And if you had really asked me and waited for a reply...I would have said No, and I would have probably walked away from you before you started getting into the demonstration.

I'm not going to flame you, you seem to be having your ass handed to you by the resident flamers (and not of the homosexual variety) of IndyMogul. But rest assured...you don't want another one added to the list of people who are owning you on a constant basis.

-zac
So, what you're saying is that you'd flame me because I made an innocent joke, but because I've already been having a flame war for the past several pages, you won't?

[edwardlavender]

So, what you're saying is that you'd flame me because I made an innocent joke, but because I've already been having a flame war for the past several pages, you won't?

There's no sense in kicking a man while he's down.

-zac

p.s. If I were a mod, I can pretty much guarantee such foolishness would not be happening as much as it does. So this is me, announcing my candidacy for the Next User turned Mod!

VOTE FOR ME!

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7089/formodmj8.jpg

[FyceDesigns]

There's no sense in kicking a man while he's down.

-zac

p.s. If I were a mod, I can pretty much guarantee such foolishness would not be happening as much as it does. So this is me, announcing my candidacy for the Next User turned Mod!

VOTE FOR ME!

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7089/formodmj8.jpg
Indy Mogul needs more strong leaders like you. Edward Lavender for '08!

-zac

[spicysmoke]

Haha fyce's sig "cook me a egg" is similar to a famous quote from one of the best New Zealand movies, Once Were Warriors, but its: cook me some eggs woman!

[daydreamer1]

Whar's going on now?

[bridboyross]

wow my thread about rep has become all out war!

[Scott]

I'm not going to flame you, you seem to be having your ass handed to you by the resident flamers (and not of the homosexual variety) of IndyMogul. But rest assured...you don't want another one added to the list of people who are owning you on a constant basis.

-zac



-Fyce

[ericslovechild]

I love you all SO much. Let's frolick through the flowers.

-Scott

[Scott]

I love you all SO much. Let's frolick through the flowers.

-Scott


http://www.markswatson.com/Retard6.jpg

[FyceDesigns]

Scott, you do realize that you're just copying Alasdair, right? First, Alasdair took my identity, then you did. Then, Alasdair changed back to her regular avatar, but changed her sig to big pink text that reads "-Alasdair." Then you copied that, too. Jeez, be original, please.

[ericslovechild]

HIS. Alasdair is a maleman.

[Alasdair]

Scott, you do realize that you're just copying Alasdair, right? First, Alasdair took my identity, then you did. Then, Alasdair changed back to her regular avatar, but changed her sig to big pink text that reads "-Alasdair." Then you copied that, too. Jeez, be original, please.

You are so fucking clueless it's ceased being funny

[Alasdair]

Oh you're only 16

I'm pretty sure I wasn't that retarded at 16 though

[FyceDesigns]

HIS. Alasdair is a maleman.
Jeez, first I call Alasdair a dude, then somebody says he's a chick, so I correct myself and call him a chick, then I'm wrong again? That's a lot of sex-change surgeries.

[Scott]

Scott, you do realize that you're just copying Alasdair, right? First, Alasdair took my identity, then you did. Then, Alasdair changed back to her regular avatar, but changed her sig to big pink text that reads "-Alasdair." Then you copied that, too. Jeez, be original, please.


http://www.sternplanet.com/boards/images/gifs/reservoir_dogs-worlds_smallest_violin.gif Munch on that kid.

[Scott]

Jeez, first I call Alasdair a dude, then somebody says he's a chick, so I correct myself and call him a chick, then I'm wrong again? That's a lot of sex-change surgeries.


I don't know what kind of sick transsexual fantasies you have, but Alasdair is a male.



-Fyce

[Alasdair]

Jeez, first I call Alasdair a dude, then somebody says he's a chick, so I correct myself and call him a chick, then I'm wrong again? That's a lot of sex-change surgeries.

Sex & Gender and the Connection between Language and Gender Sex vs. Gender vs. Sexuality
Sex
Sex is biologically founded.

A human female has 2 X chromosomes
A human male has 1 X and 1 Y chromosome All embryos are identical for the first 8 weeks of gestation Prenatal production of male hormones produces the male pattern
Absence of these male hormones produces the female pattern.
Hermaphroditism or intersexuality
Definition: state of a person or animal whose sex is neither male nor female or both at the same time
Cause of intersexuality can be chromosomal or hormonal:
• Some infants have a “mosaic” chromosome pattern: XY/XO
• Some infants have XY cells but cannot process testosterone
• Hormonal imbalances can masculinize the genitals of XX children
• An inherited condition called 5-alpha-reductase deficiency triggers an apparent female-to-male sex change at puberty
A woman is a woman in all communities, and a man is a man in all communities: there is (almost) no cultural variation
For a true story about hermaphroditism and the consequences of sex-change operations, see The true story of John Joan (http://www.indiana.edu/%7Elggender/john-joan.html) written by John Colapinto and published in Rolling Stone, December 11, 1997, pp. 54-96 (with interruptions). Cf. also his book:
Colapinto, John. 2000. As Nature Made Him; The Boy Who was Raised as a Girl. New York: HarperCollins Publishers.

For a recent academic article on intersexuality:

Blackless, Melanie, Anthony Charuvastra, Amanda Derryck, Anne Fausto-Sterling, Karl Lauzanne, and Ellen Lee. 2000. How sexually dimorphic are we? Review and synthesis. (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/issuetoc?ID=69504032) American Journal of Human Biology 12:151-166.

See also the site of the Intersex Society of North America for much relevant information: http://www.isna.org/.

Gender
Definition: a socially-constructed notion of what is feminine and what is masculine
“One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman” (Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex, 1952, p. 267)
Sex is typically considered to be a binary category
• female
• *more female (* = ungrammatical, cannot be said)
• *most female
• *less female
• *least female
Gender is a continuous category: a person can be more or less feminine or masculine
• feminine
• more feminine
• most feminine
• less feminine
• least feminine
In our western societies, we tend/try to impose a binary categorization of gender
Examples of third genders (source: Lorber 1994):
Lorber, Judith. 1994. Paradoxes of Gender. New Haven: Yale University Press.
• berdache (http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Stonewall/3044/berdache.html):
In some Native Indian communities, an institutionalized cross-gendered role that legitimates males doing women’s work
• ninauposkitzipxpe ‘manly-hearted woman’ in the North Piegan (Blackfoot) community. Typical of less egalitarian Native American societies
• warrior women in Plains Indians communities: “Among the Mohave, a girl’s refusal to learn women’s tasks could lead to her being taught the same skills boys learned [...] her status as a man allowed her to marry a woman and to do men’s work of hunting, trapping, growing crops, and fighting. She was also expected to perform a man’s ritual obligations. [...] Sexually, cross-gendered females were homosexuals, but, like berdaches, their marriages were always heterogendered–they did not marry or have sexual relationships with each other.”
• hijras (http://home.interlink.or.jp/%7Etakeshii/): “Hijras, a group in northern India, consider themselves intersexed males who have become women [...] Hijras are required to dress as women, but they do not imitate or try to pass as ordinary women; rather, they are as deviant as women as they are as men”
Because gender is a social construct, it changes across time, communities, and even individuals; e.g.:
• USA in the 1950's (cf., e.g., The good wife's guide (http://www.indiana.edu/%7Elggender/good_wife.jpg)) vs. USA in the 21st century
• western world vs. fondamentalist Islamic communities
• an older person vs. a younger person
• a very conservative person vs. a very progressive person
What role do nature and culture play in defining men and women?
Is the “maternal instinct” genetic or cultural?
Do boys and men tend to be more active and aggressive because of their hormones? (cf., e.g., The he-hormone (http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20000402mag-testosterone.html) in the New York Times Magazine)
Is the more collaborative interactive style of women a consequence of their genes which make them better designed for some types of tasks?
Very difficult to determine which behaviors are cultural and which might be natural because of experimental difficulties
Physiological differences between men and women:
• genitalia
• bearing children
• patterns of fat distribution
• color blindness
• etc.
But culture appears to play a role even with some physiologically-based differences: voice pitch
• crosscultural evidence
• prepuberty differences between girl and boy voices
Sexuality
Definition: sexual attraction toward and activity with other human beings
Homosexuality: attraction toward members of the same sex
Heterosexuality: attraction toward members of the other sex
Bisexuality: attraction toward members of both sexes
Sex, gender, and sexuality are 3 independent dimensions
All combinations are possible:
• gays: effeminate vs. macho
• lesbians: butch vs. femme (or lipstick)
• heterosexual women and men can be more or less feminine, more or less masculine
• how masculine or feminine a male or a female depends on which groups they belong to (e.g., working class vs. middle class, age)
Interesting article about the role of biology in distinguishing men and women
Bing, Janet. 1999. Brain sex: How the media report and distort brain research. Women and Language 22,2:4-12. (Available through GenderWatch (http://www.indiana.edu/%7Elibinstr/class/e104.html))

4 different views of the relation between language & gender

1. Language reflects gender divisions in society

• Language does not create gender divisions, it reflects them
• The fact that women tend to be more polite than men reflects the fact that they tend to occupy subordinate positions (secretary vs. boss, nurse vs. doctor, dental hygienist vs. dentist, etc.)
• The fact that words referring to doctors, ambassadors, professors, lawyers, etc. are all masculine in French reflects the fact that, until recently, these positions were occupied almost exclusively by men
• Gender differences in language may be interpreted as sexist only if the community where this language is used is sexist
• What must change is society rather than language

2. Language creates and/or promotes gender divisions in society

• Sapir-Whorf hypothesis: each language embodies a specific world-view and constrains the way we categorize what surrounds us
• It is claimed that Hindi has only 1 word for both ice and snow
• Leg in English vs. patte 'animal's leg' and jambe 'human being's leg' in French

• What effect do pairs of words such as the following have on English speakers' perception of social structure?

doctor vs. woman/lady doctor
nurse vs. male nurse
wizard vs. witch
bachelor vs. spinster
master vs. mistress

• What effect does the polite behavior of women have on their careers?

3. Interplay between language and social structure

• How do pairs of words like those above arise?
• Do boys and girls grow up thinking that they can become doctors?
• Do boys and girls feel the same pressure to get married?
• Does the fact that women interrupt less often than men at business and academic meetings arise from their socially subordinate position and does it prevent them from gaining the same type of recognition that men obtain?

4. No influence: gender in language is a purely grammatical notion

• In French, all nouns must be either masculine or feminine, and, in many cases, whether a noun is masculine or feminine has nothing to do with maleness and femaleness
• le livre 'the book' is masculine
• la revue 'the magazine' is feminine

• Académie française (The French Academy): no need to create feminine forms of the nouns that refer to ambassadors, ministers, etc.

• Is a society that speaks a language that treats men and women equally necessarily less sexist than one whose language can be described as being sexist?

[Scott]

Sex & Gender and the Connection between Language and Gender Sex vs. Gender vs. Sexuality
Sex
Sex is biologically founded.

A human female has 2 X chromosomes
A human male has 1 X and 1 Y chromosomeAll embryos are identical for the first 8 weeks of gestation Prenatal production of male hormones produces the male pattern
Absence of these male hormones produces the female pattern.
Hermaphroditism or intersexuality
Definition: state of a person or animal whose sex is neither male nor female or both at the same time
Cause of intersexuality can be chromosomal or hormonal:
• Some infants have a “mosaic” chromosome pattern: XY/XO
• Some infants have XY cells but cannot process testosterone
• Hormonal imbalances can masculinize the genitals of XX children
• An inherited condition called 5-alpha-reductase deficiency triggers an apparent female-to-male sex change at puberty
A woman is a woman in all communities, and a man is a man in all communities: there is (almost) no cultural variation
For a true story about hermaphroditism and the consequences of sex-change operations, see The true story of John Joan (http://www.indiana.edu/%7Elggender/john-joan.html) written by John Colapinto and published in Rolling Stone, December 11, 1997, pp. 54-96 (with interruptions). Cf. also his book:
Colapinto, John. 2000. As Nature Made Him; The Boy Who was Raised as a Girl. New York: HarperCollins Publishers.

For a recent academic article on intersexuality:

Blackless, Melanie, Anthony Charuvastra, Amanda Derryck, Anne Fausto-Sterling, Karl Lauzanne, and Ellen Lee. 2000. How sexually dimorphic are we? Review and synthesis. (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/issuetoc?ID=69504032) American Journal of Human Biology 12:151-166.

See also the site of the Intersex Society of North America for much relevant information: http://www.isna.org/.

Gender
Definition: a socially-constructed notion of what is feminine and what is masculine
“One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman” (Simone de Beauvoir, The Second Sex, 1952, p. 267)
Sex is typically considered to be a binary category
• female
• *more female (* = ungrammatical, cannot be said)
• *most female
• *less female
• *least female
Gender is a continuous category: a person can be more or less feminine or masculine
• feminine
• more feminine
• most feminine
• less feminine
• least feminine
In our western societies, we tend/try to impose a binary categorization of gender
Examples of third genders (source: Lorber 1994):
Lorber, Judith. 1994. Paradoxes of Gender. New Haven: Yale University Press.
• berdache (http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Stonewall/3044/berdache.html):
In some Native Indian communities, an institutionalized cross-gendered role that legitimates males doing women’s work
• ninauposkitzipxpe ‘manly-hearted woman’ in the North Piegan (Blackfoot) community. Typical of less egalitarian Native American societies
• warrior women in Plains Indians communities: “Among the Mohave, a girl’s refusal to learn women’s tasks could lead to her being taught the same skills boys learned [...] her status as a man allowed her to marry a woman and to do men’s work of hunting, trapping, growing crops, and fighting. She was also expected to perform a man’s ritual obligations. [...] Sexually, cross-gendered females were homosexuals, but, like berdaches, their marriages were always heterogendered–they did not marry or have sexual relationships with each other.”
• hijras (http://home.interlink.or.jp/%7Etakeshii/): “Hijras, a group in northern India, consider themselves intersexed males who have become women [...] Hijras are required to dress as women, but they do not imitate or try to pass as ordinary women; rather, they are as deviant as women as they are as men”
Because gender is a social construct, it changes across time, communities, and even individuals; e.g.:
• USA in the 1950's (cf., e.g., The good wife's guide (http://www.indiana.edu/%7Elggender/good_wife.jpg)) vs. USA in the 21st century
• western world vs. fondamentalist Islamic communities
• an older person vs. a younger person
• a very conservative person vs. a very progressive person
What role do nature and culture play in defining men and women?
Is the “maternal instinct” genetic or cultural?
Do boys and men tend to be more active and aggressive because of their hormones? (cf., e.g., The he-hormone (http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/20000402mag-testosterone.html) in the New York Times Magazine)
Is the more collaborative interactive style of women a consequence of their genes which make them better designed for some types of tasks?
Very difficult to determine which behaviors are cultural and which might be natural because of experimental difficulties
Physiological differences between men and women:
• genitalia
• bearing children
• patterns of fat distribution
• color blindness
• etc.
But culture appears to play a role even with some physiologically-based differences: voice pitch
• crosscultural evidence
• prepuberty differences between girl and boy voices
Sexuality
Definition: sexual attraction toward and activity with other human beings
Homosexuality: attraction toward members of the same sex
Heterosexuality: attraction toward members of the other sex
Bisexuality: attraction toward members of both sexes
Sex, gender, and sexuality are 3 independent dimensions
All combinations are possible:
• gays: effeminate vs. macho
• lesbians: butch vs. femme (or lipstick)
• heterosexual women and men can be more or less feminine, more or less masculine
• how masculine or feminine a male or a female depends on which groups they belong to (e.g., working class vs. middle class, age)
Interesting article about the role of biology in distinguishing men and women
Bing, Janet. 1999. Brain sex: How the media report and distort brain research. Women and Language 22,2:4-12. (Available through GenderWatch (http://www.indiana.edu/%7Elibinstr/class/e104.html))

4 different views of the relation between language & gender

1. Language reflects gender divisions in society

• Language does not create gender divisions, it reflects them
• The fact that women tend to be more polite than men reflects the fact that they tend to occupy subordinate positions (secretary vs. boss, nurse vs. doctor, dental hygienist vs. dentist, etc.)
• The fact that words referring to doctors, ambassadors, professors, lawyers, etc. are all masculine in French reflects the fact that, until recently, these positions were occupied almost exclusively by men
• Gender differences in language may be interpreted as sexist only if the community where this language is used is sexist
• What must change is society rather than language

2. Language creates and/or promotes gender divisions in society

• Sapir-Whorf hypothesis: each language embodies a specific world-view and constrains the way we categorize what surrounds us
• It is claimed that Hindi has only 1 word for both ice and snow
• Leg in English vs. patte 'animal's leg' and jambe 'human being's leg' in French

• What effect do pairs of words such as the following have on English speakers' perception of social structure?

doctor vs. woman/lady doctor
nurse vs. male nurse
wizard vs. witch
bachelor vs. spinster
master vs. mistress

• What effect does the polite behavior of women have on their careers?

3. Interplay between language and social structure

• How do pairs of words like those above arise?
• Do boys and girls grow up thinking that they can become doctors?
• Do boys and girls feel the same pressure to get married?
• Does the fact that women interrupt less often than men at business and academic meetings arise from their socially subordinate position and does it prevent them from gaining the same type of recognition that men obtain?

4. No influence: gender in language is a purely grammatical notion

• In French, all nouns must be either masculine or feminine, and, in many cases, whether a noun is masculine or feminine has nothing to do with maleness and femaleness
• le livre 'the book' is masculine
• la revue 'the magazine' is feminine

• Académie française (The French Academy): no need to create feminine forms of the nouns that refer to ambassadors, ministers, etc.

• Is a society that speaks a language that treats men and women equally necessarily less sexist than one whose language can be described as being sexist?

Shake 'n' Bake. Does that blow your mind?

[Westcroft]

double post... sorry.

[Westcroft]

Yeah, real funny...You should seriously consider a comedy club.

I actually thought that was kinda funny, the whole "if it's not signed it's unknown" heh... funny.


Wait for it... wait for it...



- Westcroft

[Alasdair]

I think pretending that somebody is funny SARCASTICALLY is a fool proof strategy and he has basically discovered the nuclear weaponry of verbal warfare

like

if somebody ever insults me in real life

I will just go "HA HA THAT'S SUPER FUNNY HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF STARTING YOUR OWN COMEDY SHOW"

and they'll just stop and think.

"Oh. I guess I really aren't funny enough to start my own comedy show. Huh."

and slink away into the night.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2041/sigpr6.gif

[Junior365]

Hey, I have just checked my rep section, I've gotten some green rep, most grey rep and one red rep. What does the red one mean?

[ciwi286]

You got bad reputation ... someone doesnt like you!

[Junior365]

So what does the grey rep mean?

[ciwi286]

No clue...most of my rep is gray with good comments!

[Junior365]

Oh, ok. I got the negative rep for saying you should be the next user-mod in the WesScog mod thread. With a comment saying "I think not.".