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EverElevate
11-06-2009, 09:51 PM
couple questions about hdv. I have heard that you cannot just capture audio/video on Hdv through your firewire. I hear you have to buy extra accessories, is that true?

I have also heard that the quality difference between hdv and dv is very miniscule. is that true?

thanks all
Wra1th13
11-06-2009, 10:13 PM
False, for the most part. If you don't have a firewire port then yes, you do. But seeing as you said "through your firewire" that probably means you do have one, and False.
EverElevate
11-07-2009, 01:58 AM
False, for the most part. If you don't have a firewire port then yes, you do. But seeing as you said "through your firewire" that probably means you do have one, and False.
can anyone else confirm this? so you only need firewire to be able to capture hdv tapes on to your computer just as you would with a regular dv?
NerdWithNoLife
11-07-2009, 02:03 AM
As long as you've got the port to capture plain old DV, you can capture HDV. You just might have to configure your software to HDV instead of DV. Even if you didn't have a firewire hookup, you can buy a firewire capture card on Monoprice for like 8 dollars.
WesScog
11-07-2009, 02:14 AM
HDV is better, the codec is a little more efficient, and how it records images is more reliable.
Koolpenguin89
11-07-2009, 01:02 PM
But HDV audio pretty much sucks.

Dylan
Wra1th13
11-07-2009, 03:39 PM
But HDV audio pretty much sucks.

Dylan

You could always record from a different source to solve this problem.
Koolpenguin89
11-07-2009, 03:54 PM
You could always record from a different source to solve this problem.

Do you mean to a different device? The source of the audio isn't the sucky factor in HDV, its the fact that HDV uses MPEG-1 audio encoded at 384 kbit/s, which, IMHO, sucks.

Dylan
NerdWithNoLife
11-07-2009, 07:14 PM
Do you mean to a different device? The source of the audio isn't the sucky factor in HDV, its the fact that HDV uses MPEG-1 audio encoded at 384 kbit/s, which, IMHO, sucks.
Agreed. I tried hooking up an external mic to my HV30 and rejected that method for just that reason. Now I record to the H2 with 24bit 48Khz WAV audio. Much better.

However, I think the video of HDV is pretty good. I could never prove it, but I bet if one was to somehow take a film camera with a $100,000+ lense and record to HDV (assuming you've got all the good lighting guys to make it look pretty), you'd get some fine footage. In my opinion, the problem with most HDV footage is that it's shot on comparatively cheap cameras. The codec is fine in most purposes.
Koolpenguin89
11-07-2009, 07:25 PM
However, I think the video of HDV is pretty good. I could never prove it, but I bet if one was to somehow take a film camera with a $100,000+ lense and record to HDV (assuming you've got all the good lighting guys to make it look pretty), you'd get some fine footage. In my opinion, the problem with most HDV footage is that it's shot on comparatively cheap cameras. The codec is fine in most purposes.

Agreed, the only major limiting factors of HDV, for me at least, are the 4:2:0 color processing, and the compression artifacts that can sometimes arise. Other than that, i love HDV.

Dylan
WesScog
11-08-2009, 12:56 AM
HDV is great for most of us, but for high-end professional applications it simply isn't as versatile as is needed for the majority of applications.

HDV is great until you have to pull a matte that looks clean on a 60 foot screen. Most high-end formats prefer AT LEAST 4:2:2 for a reason.
EverElevate
11-08-2009, 02:15 PM
when you say hdv has worser audio quality, do you mean compared to the dv? so hdv has better vid quality than dv but hdv has worser audio quality than dv?

Thanks all for your help
NerdWithNoLife
11-09-2009, 01:56 AM
when you say hdv has worser audio quality, do you mean compared to the dv? so hdv has better vid quality than dv but hdv has worser audio quality than dv?
Sounds right. Of course if you're using a cheap microphone on your camera, 48Khz uncompressed isn't going to solve all your problems.
cajunprodcuer12
11-10-2009, 08:48 PM
In my opinion, DV and HDV video quality really depend on what camera you use. The Canon XL2 is a DV CAMERA, and it has the best video quality I have ever seen(for a DV Camera). It also depends on what program you are importing the clips from your camera through firewire to you PC.

Any Questions? Just Ask Me.
Thanks,
Damon