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WesScog
09-21-2007, 04:57 AM
I was wondering about what the easiest way to do a fake broken arm would be. Let me explain what I want to do with the arm.

I have a scene, what one guy kneels in front of an open door, sticks his left arm into it, while another guy charges against the open door, hitting it, and slamming it shut on the fake arm, smashing it.

I was thinking of making a cast of the arm like in the "FAKE HAND" episode of I.M., stick a thin balsa wood "skeleton" in the core of the arm, and some taped up zip lock bags around the center filled with fake blood and celery fibers (for muscle fiber busting out when it crunches), and pour ballistics gel all over it.

Then paint it with a thin layer of flesh paint to match my actors skin tone.


I was just wondering if anyone has done something like this before, and if anyone can think of any problems with the effect I might be overlooking.

Baring that, i'll do some test shots and show you guys how it looks!

killerone
09-21-2007, 11:22 AM
hmm well if you killed them in the head and hand well i gess i sounds ok

edwardlavender
09-21-2007, 11:25 AM
You seem to have this effect down. Go do it, then post it on youtube. I'd love to see it actually done.

Paladin1221
09-21-2007, 11:58 AM
just use the arm from the duck tape dummie. If you need it to be stronger then the all mighty duckt tape just run lines of copper wire as a skeleton.

WesScog
09-21-2007, 01:16 PM
Well its not a matter of making it stronger, I really wanted to make it look semi-realistic for the few microseconds you'll see it before the door smashes on it.

I know the easiest route would be to use a piece of balsa wood, make the actor wear a long sleeve shirt, and just stuff some paper or something in the arm to make it fill out so it doesn't look like he has a skeleton arm.

And then do a shot of him clutching his REAL arm, with fake blood, and a fake piece of bone sticking out of the fabric.

But, I actually wanted him to wear a short sleeve shirt, so you can see the arm actually get smashed and deformed when the door hits.

ninjapiratemonkey
10-22-2007, 08:20 AM
hey my friends and i are making a skate video but my buddy wants to recreate the broken finger in the skate video 'yeah right'. and he wants to be able to snap it back into place aswell
thanks for and if you help

Paladin1221
10-22-2007, 08:58 AM
Just use the fake hand and run thick copper wire through one/all fingers. Then add a bone crunching sound. Erik always says celery works best for the sound of breaking bones.

WesScog
10-22-2007, 02:52 PM
Just get him to hold his finger in a weird position, and add in a big cracking noise, then another big cracking noise when he "snaps it back".

ninjapiratemonkey
10-22-2007, 03:30 PM
Just use the fake hand and run thick copper wire through one/all fingers. Then add a bone crunching sound. Erik always says celery works best for the sound of breaking bones.
i think that would work but wouldnt the bilistics gel break

John the Fish
10-22-2007, 05:25 PM
Hahahahah

loooook at daat shiiit

*pops back into place*

daaaaamn

Justin Elridge mah boi.

You should just do it for real.

pyromaniac
10-22-2007, 06:51 PM
if you dont go into detail you could make the real finger look like the bone sticking out and then make a sheath for the finger out of latex or something that havs a hole in it so it can pop in and out.

punkandska66
11-07-2007, 07:56 PM
wow, i jut realized, this is the 1st time ive seen wes asking 4 somthing instead of instructing it. way to go wes! even einstein asked questions.

Grimnr
11-07-2007, 09:32 PM
Wes I think you have a pretty good idea already, if you want it faster that ballistic gel, you might want to just paint the duct tape arm with flesh tone latex.

doid
11-07-2007, 09:32 PM
hey lets not pick on him guys, he has helped out with a s**t load of stuff and we owe it to him

WesScog
11-07-2007, 10:19 PM
Ah, she isn't making fun of me, lol.

She was just surprised that I would ask things.

uhrisuh
11-07-2007, 10:21 PM
As Zac said you seem like you have what you want to do down. My only concern would be the blood in the bags... I feel like it might not be able to escape through the gel and latex .. But it's something you should practice and try out ...

punkandska66
11-08-2007, 08:09 AM
Ah, she isn't making fun of me, lol.

She was just surprised that I would ask things.

*he* :grumble: *he* was just surprised you ask things...

felix78
11-08-2007, 10:00 AM
I
I was just wondering if anyone has done something like this before, and if anyone can think of any problems with the effect I might be overlooking.

Baring that, i'll do some test shots and show you guys how it looks!

I havn't done thios before, but i would go with a "Fake human doll" arm. Like they did with the foot. But with more blood smashing out. And fill the arm with something, so that it's more "real" belivebel. It would prolly look pretty much same, but this is much easier and it's faster.

phish
11-08-2007, 03:00 PM
You could try using the ductape arm for most of it. Fill a cup or something with balistics gel, fake blood, balsa wood... etc. Once ready place the balistics gel set up where the fake arm is going to snap. Cut the same area off of the duct tape arm, attatch your balistic set up to each side of the duct tape arm.

This may be easier considering only a smaller section will be balistics gel, instead of a whole arm (Which would be flimsy even with a balsa skeleton).

Hopefully that description made sense lol.

WesScog
11-08-2007, 04:18 PM
*he* :grumble: *he* was just surprised you ask things...

I don't know why I thought you were a girl...

I'm sorry.

punkandska66
11-08-2007, 04:19 PM
its ok

:geeeee:

punkandska66
11-08-2007, 04:31 PM
hey wes. i gotta question. i uploaded my dolly tut, but i have got no feed back from anyone, should i email erik and see if they got it. or if u can do anything that would help, i just wanna know if they saw it.

WesScog
11-08-2007, 06:24 PM
They recently lost an editor in the office, and are in the process of getting a new one, so it's taking a wee-bit of time to get everything back to 100% optimal.

I had my tutorials uploaded for almost a week before Justin told me to just take them out of draft and go ahead and post them.

So, I say, don't worry about it, it takes time for them to edit it into a segment if they are even going to use it, just stay firm.

WesScog
11-08-2007, 06:33 PM
Someone gave me Negative rep for this thread, damn. :)

rrh
11-09-2007, 02:36 PM
So, what happens to this arm?

You could have just a dummy arm so you can slam the door on it hard without it hurting the actor. But I gather from your mention of baggies of blood, that you want some damage to occur.

And you can do an arm break without the blood, so I guess you want to break the skin? In The Thing, they chopped a guy's arm's straight off by making them with latex skin, ballistics gel, and wax bones. If you don't want to cut through the bones, you could use wooden bones instead.

WesScog
11-09-2007, 04:03 PM
The Arm gets smashed, and kind of pops, sending a spray of blood out of the break. I want to show the arm, like the guy is wearing a short sleeve shirt, so I am thinking, a shot of the actor with his real arm in the door, a shot of the guy running, close up of the guys face, the other guy slamming into the door, and a close up of the fake arm in the door getting smashed, reaction shots, fade out of the scene.

pyromaniac
11-10-2007, 01:16 AM
I dont know if anyones posted this idea yet but try using the fake leg thing with an arm and using a more bone like rod inside. also you might want to use sme other type of skin so the bone can come out easier.

Darkmast508
11-10-2007, 01:47 AM
good idea, but when making the arm out of the ballistics gel and such, add in a lot of fake blood.

edwardlavender
11-10-2007, 02:31 AM
I was thinking about it...I think balsa wood might be a little too weak. maybe get a little bit stronger dowel skeleton. Balsa wood just seems a bit fragile.

something with a little bit more snap/crunch to it would really sell it and make it a bit more realistic. I know sound effects go a long way...but the visual is what's gonna make it look realistic.

-zac

nhwotton
11-10-2007, 11:17 AM
why dont you go and buy a fake arm from a costume shop and use that. i got an arm and an leg and they look pretty real. they have a foam tube inside but you could take that out. i hope this helps.:cool:

Takara55
11-29-2007, 05:39 PM
K the sound is going to sell it, like, do what ur gonna do then add a creepy CRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKK...........AHHHHHHH WHAT THE F*** IS YOUR PROBLEM?????????

(last part of it is optional)

Alasdair
11-29-2007, 05:43 PM
it would be child's play to make the mold of somebody's arm with duct tape like in the stunt dummy tutorial. From there I think I'd put some thick dowels in to act as bones and make it move more realistically, and fill it up with blood packs!

Anonymous_Review
01-11-2008, 08:03 PM
Ok, I know I'm probably going to get shouted at, but using the search feature is a pain and not very effective to go through ten pages of threads to find one word to see if this has been requested before.

So anyway, I was watching equilibrium the other day, and I saw two things in it which I know I had seen before. But I didn't think you had yet to do one of.

FIRST REQUEST!

What I want is an arm/leg Break, I know you guys have done guts and hands. And I know adding sound effects can really help but visually... I guess I'll just have to show you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlqfoStaNc at specifically 1:13 He does the leg and arm break. Now I know you guys have done the making of the model episode. But Would there be anyway to do it with a person?

Also, in the film "scary movie" there was a scene where a girl has a leg break and the bone shows through, she keeps it for the whole scene I think. Would there be anyway to do this without JUST using a closeup?


SECOND REQUEST!

Dust squibs. We've had viewer submissions on squibs before, but I don't think we've had any on dust squibs. Occasionally in film they just use dust to have the effect instead of blood. Unfortunatly the two methods I know of using them (pulling a cord won't come out well because of the density of the dust) (and pneumatic I don't think will do well because it's more likely to clog up the cord) I don't think will work, so are there anyways to do this?

(also, just a thought, where the heck can we get dust from? would fine grain sand be able to substitute?)

Mr.Jowee
01-12-2008, 12:19 AM
I've always thought that a good way to make a stunt dummy would be to use wooden dowels as a skeleton. When, and the green age of 12, a friend and I had the not-so-bright idea to throw one from an overpass onto the Interstate (thank God common sense prevailed and we didn't), we made one from some old clothes we had laying around. The problem was that it had no skeleton and no muscles; it just looked too fake.

Anyway, maybe you could do it with a fake arm, that has a dowel "bone" running through it. The entire thing would be stiff, except for where it breaks. You could even use a coat hanger for finger bones (phalanges?), so they're not completely limp.

Just an idea.

jace37
01-12-2008, 08:43 AM
For your dust squibs, why not just get a rubber hose and put holes in it. Then just cover the hose with the dirt and attach it to an air compressor or something. Then when you need it to go off just trigger the air compressor. Just a thought I guess.:fcross:

Wraith 5
01-12-2008, 08:52 AM
For postproduction dust squibs, jam a drinking straw full of wheatflour, and blow through the other end sharply against a black background, then add it into your edit as you would edit in muzzleflashes.

DarkMirageProductions
01-12-2008, 03:09 PM
I think kevinaz did his viewer takeover on dust squibs... or maybe it was another kind of squib... Either way contact him.

Also leg and arm breaks are easily done with wooden dowels and stunt dummies as stated by Mr. Jowee.

Kevinaz
01-12-2008, 04:55 PM
I think kevinaz did his viewer takeover on dust squibs... or maybe it was another kind of squib... Either way contact him.


Yes I did.

My pc crashed before i could submit my VT entry, so I made a thread on it: http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=3874

Anonymous_Review
01-12-2008, 05:13 PM
How would I be able to use that with clothes and make it look so impressive? It won't be so much of a dust explosion as a dust puff.
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/4/5/4/45453443d6f73025afa287981e1e58c1.gif That's the kind of dust squib i'm thinking of.

As for the dummy break's, I wanted to find a way of doing that not on a dummy. Since, well, let's be honest, cheap dummies aren't very good looking.

Chainsaw
01-14-2008, 01:38 PM
I don't think that's a 'dust squib', I think they've added gunpowder. Or black powder, since gunpowder is normally smokeless nowadays. As evidence, I offer this: pay close attention to the back of the guys to the bottom left and middle(primarily). I assume they did this to make it look like his muzzle flash is punching right through the guys.

punkandska66
01-14-2008, 04:25 PM
in the clip you linked, he kicked him in the back of the leg, so he just bent his leg regularly but they put in a "crack" sound effect. for dust squibs, ive heard you can buy clay and make little pellets, and let them dry or put them in your oven for a while, and then shoot them out of a sling shot onto like a wall, and it'll look like bullet hits.

Animeking#1
01-26-2008, 01:10 AM
Ok, who here can recreate an limb break effect, or who thinks that Erik should make one?

WesScog
01-26-2008, 01:29 AM
I can try, i've got a few ideas for how to do it.

The way to do it with a gel arm is... do the same thing as the "fake hand" tutorial, but make a fake arm, make a cast, pour ballistics gel into it around a fake bone (Balsa wood painted white.) and also a bag of fake blood sealed to the "bone".

Let it harden, then get your actor to hold their arm against their body, put it into their sleeve (if it's long sleeve you don't have to take time painting it up like their real arm, put a fake hand on the end (it is easier to fake a hand if your character having their arm broken wears gloves, so you can just tape the glove to the end of the fake arm) and get your other actor to break the fake arm, the wood will bust open the bag and fake blood will pour out.

With a full long sleeve, you could easily do it a cheaper way by modifying the leg tear effect, and just making a duct tape fake arm,and modify the joint where the "break" will happen with a piece of wood, and lots of fake blood, and a pre-torn shirt, so you can get a nice close-up of the bone shooting out of the fabric.

The other way to do it, is to do it like the Ninja neck snap, let your actor having their neck 'snapped' actually make the movement, and have your person just react to it.

Same thing hear, have your actor having their arm broken, just bend their arm in dramatically, and have your actor doing the "breaking" to just follow with it, adding in some cracking effects, get your actor to react to the break by screaming and holding their arm, and you can even make a fake piece of bone protruding our of their skin, and add it with some liquid latex and add fake blood all over it.

So get your person doing the "breaking" to grab their arm, get the person having their arm "broken" twist their arm and scream and cry, have the person doing the "breaking" follow with it, then have the person fall down craddling their arm and do a close-up of a fake bone attached to their skin with some liquid latex, and lots of fake blood all over it.

You could make the fake bone out of broken frayed balsa wood painted white with fake blood smeared all over it.

Animeking#1
01-26-2008, 03:29 AM
thanks, but i think you're overthinking what i mean by break, i mean just a bone fracture like you see on Scarred.

WesScog
01-26-2008, 03:46 AM
Ok, so it's not a break caused by an attacker, but rather a break caused by an accident?

Then just get your person to mime their accident wearing protective gear under their cloths, then just go to a close-up with a fake bone poking out of their skin.

Also, another way you could probably film a person falling down, is to just get them to stand up from an all fours position, then play it backwards really fast.

But just get them to do the fall, then do a close-up on their arm, that has had a fake bone attached too it, just create a gaping wound with liquid latex, and attach a piece of frayed broken balsa wood like I said before.

redtail5
01-26-2008, 09:17 PM
just bite a pice of carote off and dont point your camera directly on the guy!

etentertainment
01-26-2008, 09:43 PM
just bite a pice of carote off and dont point your camera directly on the guy!

You need to learn how to spell, I'm serious.
You can't be in the film industry spelling like you're in kindergarten.

redtail5
01-26-2008, 10:50 PM
etentertainment what the hell is your problem youve been hating on my posts ever sence i saw your dolly vid !?

New Spark Films
01-26-2008, 11:44 PM
You need to learn how to spell, I'm serious.
You can't be in the film industry spelling like you're in kindergarten.

This is from his "Pinnacle ruined my life" Thread:


Customer (NA NA)05/24/2004 03:01 AM how come there is no video coming into my vhs but audio comes perfectly.
this is BS because I made a project for school and im 13 years old and bunch of BS because my project is due tomorrow and Ive been working on this F'n video for 4 days non stop with my friend. 100 dollars for this cheap card was the worst birthday gift I've ever got. Im just crying about my dad having me to buy the worst card ever made out there for such cheap reson I hate pinnicale anything that says pennacle i hate it this is BS because my project is 500 points and Im really stupid and I depended on yuo guys to make it happen, unfortunatly you failed as always




Mmhmm...

lasalite
01-27-2008, 01:13 AM
why wes are you obsessed with compound fractures?

WesScog
03-05-2008, 07:57 PM
Okie, reviving this from the dead, I did this today and it fooled 3 people, one of them that having seen protruding fractures in real life.

I'll post again when I am done typing it up. ;)

Dasleah
03-05-2008, 08:24 PM
A tip from the television students here at University - if you're looking for some really gruesome limb-snapping sounds effects, then apparently a mix of snapping celery and crushing up the carcass of a cooked chicken sound really horrible. And by that, I mean good.

CB2001
03-05-2008, 08:49 PM
One way you can do it is the same way John Carpenter did for "Assault on Precinct 13", where you get a manniquin arm, and then have the actor break it on screen.

However, I have thought about an alternative which would be simpler. All you would need is three cardboard rolls (you can use the kind from Christmas wrapping paper, or you can use two large rolls from paper towels and one small roll from toilet paper). You can glue them together to the correct arm's length to the actor. Thread the rolls into a long sleeved shirt or jacket and then stuff the arm with either clothing or wads of newspaper to give the sleeve the appearance of being filled with an actual arm. When it comes to shooting, just frame it where you can't see the hand and then have your actor who is going to "break" the area "break" it and it will appear as if the arm is folding in an unnatural way at whatever spot that you're going to have the "break" occur. Plus, with using the cardboard tubing, you can reset it at least three times before it is completely unuseable and have to reconstruct another cardboard "arm bone".

google550
03-05-2008, 09:09 PM
You need to learn how to spell, I'm serious.
You can't be in the film industry spelling like you're in kindergarten.

Tee hee. Hee... Those who can't spell drown very quickly.

WesScog
03-05-2008, 09:32 PM
http://www.indymogul.com/post/6078/wesleys-weekly-how-to-bone-break

http://s3assets.nextnewnetworks.com/7946_medium.jpg

piro_rocker132
03-05-2008, 10:31 PM
Now that you have the actual wound for the shot of someone falling you could not use a tripod and when the victim falls point the camera down and run. By that time your "victim" could be in position. Make sure the wound is not facing the camera at first.

Ill try this effect and post it on youtube sometime Sunday or Monday.

BinBinProductions
03-06-2008, 12:42 AM
wes ofcourse you say use balsa wood.

WesScog
03-06-2008, 12:47 AM
That was the original idea, but I found foam can work well too.

HunnyBunchFilms
03-06-2008, 01:06 AM
You did a great job on that blog Wes. Keep 'em coming.

WesScog
03-06-2008, 01:12 AM
You did a great job on that blog Wes. Keep 'em coming.

Thanks Hunny!

esperian
04-22-2008, 10:26 PM
I'm looking for a way to show someone with a severely, bizarrely broken neck. Any ideas?

glmclainmovies
04-22-2008, 11:09 PM
hmmm...You could use the dummy and have a close up of the neck. Then just cut it accordingly

elscottomagnifico
04-22-2008, 11:41 PM
How would you define bizarrely broken neck?

Bones showing, bruising, and torn flesh (neck starting to pull apart) are all examples, but until the overall level of broken neck is established the most help I can give is, liquid latex for shearing skin with makeup for bruising. The rest lies with how loose your actor can be.

-Joeb-
04-23-2008, 12:14 AM
use a fake neck, and try going to a drug store are a hospital and get one of those neck braces, and the person probally should be either dead, or paralized

esperian
04-27-2008, 11:06 PM
Here's the deal: I'm making a film wherein the main character accidentally kills her sister and then goes into disassociative shock and refuses to believe that she's actually dead, so the girl's "ghost" follows her sister around for the entire movie. She originally died by suffocation, so there's no noticeable injury, but toward the end they have a fight and she falls and hits her head against a table, which breaks her neck. In the last scene, I want the living sister in a mental hospital and the dead sister to be watching her, forever, staring at her from the corner with a horribly broken neck. I want the actress to be visible from the waist up, I want her to look, otherwise, very much alive... I don't want too much gore, as the film is psychological in nature and not really horror.

Originally, I had thought about making the girl sit at an angle and wearing a body suit that looked like her real body... which I still can't quite figure out how to pull off. I want it to look like her neck is at a ridiculous angle from her body, even if it doesn't really, truly look like her actual spinal column is broken.

Skycarl
04-27-2008, 11:16 PM
Take two shots of the room, one with her sitting in the chair, one without.
Edit the two shots so the top comes down to where her neck is so it looks like
she's headless. Then take a shot with her head sticking out of a green screen.
Turn it sideways so the head is laying straight back and looking sideways.
There may be a better way to isolate the head,, but that would look creepy.

chainedflesh
04-28-2008, 12:15 AM
You could try having your actress bend her neck to the side and make a styrofoam semicircle that fits the side of her neck. Then stretch something like a latex from a glove from the foam disc to her skin and powder and makup over it.

That would make it look like one of the vertebrae slipped out of place and is distorting the skin.

PowBoomFwack
06-26-2008, 11:34 AM
Broken limbs would be awesome
like somebody just got their knees cubrstomped :D
*Ownage* XD XD

BlazingProductions
06-26-2008, 12:35 PM
such as the duct tape dummy? You could just reverse a leg so that the knee is bent backwards.

WesScog
06-26-2008, 02:34 PM
http://www.indymogul.com/post/6078/wesleys-weekly-how-to-bone-break

See if this helps you.

Otherwise, if you need to actually see the limb being broken, I would make a fake limb like in the hand cutting episode, put a thin piece of foam down the center to act as a bone, then break it.

Pre-score the skin with a long cut deep into the gel along where you want the bone to come out.

trspballer7
06-26-2008, 02:35 PM
Broken limbs would be awesome
like somebody just got their knees cubrstomped :D
*Ownage* XD XD

how do you curbstomp someones knees? are you talking about kicking them in? listen to wes, hes got his shit straight.

OMGitsRadek
09-02-2008, 07:17 PM
i want an effect were it looks like you break a bone or leg like yea so plz help!:fcross:

lyhoproductions
09-02-2008, 07:29 PM
Use the search button. But I let you slide since you're new.

happyhands man
09-02-2008, 07:34 PM
hey welcome to the forums, your obviously new. before you post a question use the search bar near the top of the page to see if someone has asked this question before

Nonsensical studios
09-02-2008, 07:47 PM
I would just break their leg. Tell them to man up!

jk

But also, I would like a little more info. Like is someone breaking the leg, or is it an accident?

Indymoguler
09-02-2008, 09:42 PM
well you can look at indymoguls ripping leg video OR you could look at wesleys how to make bones tutorial and work with make up and all the make it look like the bone ripped through the skin

directya2008
09-03-2008, 12:45 PM
Have You ever heard of blue velvet?(they did this effect all the time!
What You Does Is Have The Actor sit on the floor with their leg bent behind them, position the foot in a good position, now put the actors shoe facing up at the sky hiding the actors foot, if you do this right and get the right angles it should work!:thumbsup:

TheAviator
09-05-2008, 08:03 PM
You need your actor to sit down so it looks like it's right after their "accident". Have them take their shoe off and put it in a painful-looking position. Hide their actual foot behind the shoe so it doesn't appear on camera. You now have one painfully broken leg.

iceborg4
09-28-2008, 09:11 PM
i was thinking maybe you could do a arm or leg bone breaking tutorial. I thought it was maybe a good idea.:cybererik:

paradox_qu
09-28-2008, 11:21 PM
hey welcome to the forums, your obviously new. before you post a question use the search bar near the top of the page to see if someone has asked this question before

Use the search button. But I let you slide since you're new.

If you say something like this why not help him out and post a link to the post you are talking about?

rejected
10-18-2008, 10:39 PM
Can u plz show me how to make a broken limb, like a compound fracture

lowbudgetblockbuster22
10-18-2008, 10:46 PM
SEARCH BAR!!!

filmcow10
10-18-2008, 10:50 PM
can u make a cheap broken arm, with bone sticking out and blood and muscle and all the juicy stuff, but still connected not ripped off

punkandska66
10-18-2008, 10:54 PM
Just use the leg tear but don't completely tear it off...

filmcow10
10-18-2008, 11:02 PM
but that build didnt work out to well

rejected
10-18-2008, 11:06 PM
he probably means as if u were to trip and fall and break it, it wouldnt work with the dummy because it wouldnt look like a real leg hitting the ground, it would be all bendy and wont break, it would look bad

TreasureBox Films
10-18-2008, 11:54 PM
Wes did this i'll go find it. just a minute

TreasureBox Films
10-18-2008, 11:56 PM
here-
http://www.indymogul.com/post/6078/wesleys-weekly-how-to-bone-break

uhrisuh
10-19-2008, 01:36 AM
Just a friendly warning .. It's usually an annoyance to make duplicate accounts and post duplicate request threads. You only need one account and one request. Please pick an account to be active on and keep the requests to one at a time.

filmcow10
10-19-2008, 09:10 AM
im not his other account, im just a friend who likes the idea

uti2008
12-01-2008, 12:06 AM
Like in that arm wrestling movie where Stalone snapped that guy's arm.

D O Studios
12-01-2008, 08:20 PM
How could you build a leg with a small broken bone coming out of it.

Is there a cheap way to make a leg cast that can be put on and off quickly?

pcgfilms
12-01-2008, 08:21 PM
check out wesleys tutorial for broken bones
then go from there

iceborg4
12-01-2008, 08:26 PM
maybe use wood or plastic, cut it in a bone shape, that is white spray on some red paint(little) and attach it to pants. just a thought

$niP3r$h0t
01-19-2009, 12:28 PM
ok so i been doing some backyard fx and i want to know how to make a fake broken limb cause that would help the film and how do you make a fake "hanging " of a person i thought abt. a harness but it was not in backyard budget so respond if you can help me out

uti2008
01-19-2009, 12:35 PM
Hang a dummy or otherwise you will kill somebody for real

Radicalrich34
03-09-2009, 07:46 PM
i saw this effect in watchmen and i thought hey i want to put this in one of my films but i dont know how do you think this would be a good idea i dont rememeber if BFx did this before but i would really like to see it and learn how to do this for my new superhero movie

FlimFlamFilms
05-11-2009, 08:06 PM
hey guys, im just wondering how you would do a bone popping out of your arm effect, one similar to the one in Observe and Report. Also, how would i make it bleed?

TheMightySeamus
05-11-2009, 08:27 PM
Wes' tutorial (http://www.indymogul.com/post/6078/wesleys-weekly-how-to-bone-break) should do the trick.

drpepperowns
05-11-2009, 10:39 PM
this is based off the special features from saw 5.I've never tryed it but am kinda thinking about it
take a cast of your actors whole arm, make sure you have a hollow mold and try to some how make the wrist sort of flexible(if youve seen saw five, its a crushing effect if your looking for a snap, you coulp probably just leave it and bend) take a gash out of it where you want it to break, put a bone inside on a hinge. Then cover the hole with latex sheeting, then fill your mold with blood then seall all ends.(or seal ends, fill with blood from the holethen cover hole) blend make up. add straps (duct tape?)
while shooting, strap to actor, then just bend the arm so the latex sheeting breaks and blood will pour out, you could also rig the blood shooter rig into it, or something similar to what they used in the axe in the back effect for a more fountain like spray of blood, opposed to it just pouring out.
hope this helped

Razback
05-12-2009, 05:19 PM
Also the broken leg tutorial show in season 1 by Erik

30958ian
07-06-2009, 08:26 PM
dear indy mogul,

me and several of my friend have been trying to make a broken arm effect but can't fiqure out a realistic bone breaking effect can you guys help

brandon.harw
07-06-2009, 11:10 PM
I would just make a clay (or duct tape!) mold of a broken arm, color it, and attach it in your shirt sleeve.

ciwi286
07-07-2009, 07:44 AM
A good sound effect is all you need to sell a breaking body part.

But if you want something really visual WesScog did a Protruding bone effect (http://www.indymogul.com/post/6078/wesleys-weekly-how-to-bone-break), or you could make the leg tear effect (http://www.indymogul.com/backyard-fx/episode/BFX_20071008) and do a snapping motion rather than a tearing one.

Adgam
07-31-2009, 01:10 PM
Dear Eric


My name is Adgam and i would like to know how to do an arm breaking effect. In my movie two guys fight and one of them punches the other in the elbow and on the other side of the arm his bone pops out and blood starts squirting everywhere. This was used in the movie Watchmen when the girl and the owl guy fought the gang in the alley. Exept in Watchmen the bone did not pop out but i need that to happen in my movie
Thank you

bksmike8
07-31-2009, 06:31 PM
I was wondering how to make an effect where the the bone popps out the arm, I have seen Adgam request this effect becouse a guy gets punched in the elbow and ironicly I am doing the same effect in my movie. PLZZZ do an episode on this:superjustin:

Adgam
07-31-2009, 06:33 PM
wow man im doing the same thing for my movie, i really hope they do an eppisode

ciwi286
07-31-2009, 07:11 PM
WesScog did a blog on this.

http://www.indymogul.com/post/6078/wesleys-weekly-how-to-bone-break

WakeUpStudios
08-01-2009, 09:21 PM
OMG! This was before Wes was a moderator! He was sooo
litttllee!!! hahha

:wesscog::wesscog::wesscog::wesscog::wesscog:

Globeversal Pictures
08-01-2009, 09:25 PM
2 words FILM RIOT... they have an episode exactly about that. Check it out on revision3.com

Globeversal Pictures
08-01-2009, 09:28 PM
http://revision3.com/filmriot/batman?rec=true

RamboJOE98
09-16-2009, 07:05 AM
I think it would be really sweet if you started mogulween with a gory compound fracture(you know when the victims bone pierces the poor guys skin). you could even make it a 2 part special. with one episode showing what the aftermath of the fracture looks like. and the other explaining how you make it look like your breaking your or someone elses arm

thanks for reading my email and hopefullly taking my idea into condiseration:D

all hallows evil
11-03-2009, 02:42 PM
i think a bone showing effect would be great for the zombie face costume. were the bone should be i think is the elbow and/or the knee add blood to if u do this it will look way more realistic so erik if u do this ill be so happy so ttyl bye

ciwi286
11-03-2009, 03:50 PM
WesScog did that in the blog.

Something like this what your looking for?
Broken bones (http://www.indymogul.com/post/6078/wesleys-weekly-how-to-bone-break)

wolfeman323232
11-03-2009, 06:54 PM
hey have you seen the features in saw 5? if so why dont you make a rig like they did for the arm break at the last scene. only show it when you need to.