Chroma Key Help!

[stighansen]

Hi i've got an question.Can I make this green screen thing with windows movie maker???:confused:

[edwardlavender]

Hi i've got an question.Can I make this green screen thing with windows movie maker???:confused:


lol

[stighansen]

oooopss!!! a question

[stighansen]

well as I already said,I'm German

[edwardlavender]

are you having a conversation with yourself? cause i'm pretty sure no one said anything in this thread...

other than me laughing at the question you asked.

[ian]

I do not believe Windows Movie Maker has the ability to chroma key anything, you'll need something more sophisticated. You can try Adobe Premiere or Vegas Video, since you're on a PC.

[nooneimportant77]

yes you can use a green screen without widows movie maker but you'll need some kind of software to take out the green.

[stighansen]

ok,I thought of Adobe.:)

[Joshbond]

Not too expensive either! ;)

You can get the brand spankin' new Adobe Premiere Elements & Photoshop Elements for only $150!

[SWRULS]

actually you can you have to add a preset or something. there is a tutorial on how to do it in detonation films and also the download to the preset. here's the link:http://www.detonationfilms.com/tutorials.htm
scroll down until you see compositing tutorial for windows movie maker. though i don't think its that good. it will be better if you just download debugmode's wax 2.0 (its free)

[SyxxGage]

I setup the transition that allows for chroma key in Movie Maker. I've followed all the instructions, but I cant seem to get it quite right. At first it didnt work at all. Then I added an extra parameter that allows the program to recognize other varients of green. Now it works somewhat, but it's all pixelated and looks like the inside of Jimmi Hendrix's head.

I have also read that green CAN'T be done, only blue. Is this a futile attempt on my part, or is there something I can do to get the green screen to work.

[sivhead]

dude just go to www.mininova.com (http://www.mininova.com) and type in after effects and keylight and download them for free!!!!!

[SyxxGage]

hmmm, I'm not too savvy when it comes to bit torrents. A friend of mine game me the bittorrent and ISO file for Adobe Premiere, but I still havent figured out how to get it to work. It's probably for the best as I'd rather not use pirated software.

[nooneimportant77]

dude just go to www.mininova.com (http://www.mininova.com) and type in after effects and keylight and download them for free!!!!!

wow, you're so cool.

:fap:

[NaziActionFigure]

wow, you're so cool.

:fap:
I know, how the hell did he figure that out?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?

Anyway, to mount an ISO file, you need a program like MagicISO. Google it.

[Andyfilms]

What are the penalties for pirating software?
The Copyright Act allows a copyright owner to recover monetary damages measured either by: (1) actual damages plus any additional profits of the infringer attributable to the infringement, or
(2) statutory damages, of up to $150,000 for each copyrighted work infringed.
The copyright owner also has the right to permanently enjoin an infringer from engaging in further infringing activities and may be awarded costs and attorneys' fees. The law also permits destruction or other reasonable disposition of all infringing copies and devices by which infringing copies have been made or used in violation of the copyright owner's exclusive rights. In cases of willful infringement, criminal penalties may also be assessed against the infringer

[NaziActionFigure]

Whoa, there are actually laws against copyright infringement? OMG!

[SyxxGage]

What are the penalties for pirating software?
The Copyright Act allows a copyright owner to recover monetary damages measured either by: (1) actual damages plus any additional profits of the infringer attributable to the infringement, or
(2) statutory damages, of up to $150,000 for each copyrighted work infringed.
The copyright owner also has the right to permanently enjoin an infringer from engaging in further infringing activities and may be awarded costs and attorneys' fees. The law also permits destruction or other reasonable disposition of all infringing copies and devices by which infringing copies have been made or used in violation of the copyright owner's exclusive rights. In cases of willful infringement, criminal penalties may also be assessed against the infringer

I guess it's a good thing I dont use pirated software. Too bad this still doesnt help me with my green screen problem.

[eckert]

go buy sony vegas for $100 and its really easy.

[3amigosproductions]

Or does it have a download like windowsmoviemakers.net

CAuse i might get one.

[ninjabros]

No. But its much better than WMM

[ciwi286]

come one man...It took me literally 6 seconds to find this in the search! http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=1420&highlight=imovie

[billyn1]

It Doesn't but Final cut express (as good as pro- everything indymogul talks about, just cheaper) just came out with 4, which douse have chrome, luma, and a special blue/green easy feature. $199-

[ericslovechild]

Disregard this post.

[3amigosproductions]

?????????

[3amigosproductions]

Im getting adobe after effects version 5.0 is it good?

[nooneimportant77]

Im getting adobe after effects version 5.0 is it good?

its just fine

[3amigosproductions]

What do you mean

[Tacitcal_nudge]

Why would you buy a mac, unless your going for for Final cut, with Macs your paying like 500-700 just for apprence, the opperating system on a Mac is good because there are no viruses, but with Windows (VISTA BLOWS) you have more options if you figure out film making is more of a hobby or even more of a pain then anything else. then your not stuck with a peice of junk since you can use it for alot of other stuff

[nooneimportant77]

^^ good point, but i swear by mac, i always have and always will. but you make a good point, i've had final cut on all my macs and money has been put into them to make them specialized


What do you mean

i mean its got everything you'll need

[3amigosproductions]

I have a budget or $100 for editing software. I have a PC. I want Chroma Key and a lot of effects. I want to upload my Videos through my camera, not putting it on a file and then put it on the editor. I want to upload them to youtube. Easy to use. If you can post links.

[hardcore productions]

adobe premiere elements 3.0 or 4.0 i use these programs with a blue screen and they do good

[3amigosproductions]

I use green screen. How much?

[hardcore productions]

its good for greenscreens also.it has a key for blue and green.i got 3.0 at circuit city for 44.99 on sale and got 4.0 for a gift from a family member so i dont know how much they paid fotr it but i dont think its more than 199.99.b oth have the blu and greescreen keys and also have a lot of effects on them.i do skateboard videos and also do indy films and i use 4.0 for both for all of my editing needs.that is i finish buildimg my mac so that i can run final cut pro.now thats is a high cost program

[3amigosproductions]

Im starting to look at that.

[hardcore productions]

cool hope you can find what you are looking for and have fun

[KMProductions]

Vegas is about $100 I think. It does chroma key and all kinds of effects and transitions.

[Captain SteveBeard]

You should seriously consider Pinnacle Studio Ultimate Version 11. It can key, composite, add an insane amount of good adjustable effects, keyframe, automatically generate all kinds background music to fit a time limit, comes with sound effects, as well as audio effects (as in ways to alter your audio), you can basically do anything. The only step up would be After Effects, which is WAY over your budget.

Additionally, you can buy plug-ins for the program that can give you more effects.

I've seen it sold for 120 bucks, but I've also seen a lot of places that have it on sale for 100. I think best buy has it on sale right now.

[ericslovechild]

Don't listen to him. Pinnacle studio is HORRIBLE. Heck, Imovie is better than Pinnacle.

[Captain SteveBeard]

Don't listen to him. Pinnacle studio is HORRIBLE. Heck, Imovie is better than Pinnacle.

Do you have Ultimate v.11 or one of the shitty previous versions? Yeah, the other ones are horrible, I wasted 60 bucks to find that out myself. But if you don't have what I have, you shouldn't be telling someone to disregard my advice.

[etentertainment]

Don't listen to him. Pinnacle studio is HORRIBLE. Heck, Imovie is better than Pinnacle.



HAH...I failed my Science class because of PINNACLE...
I had to export a movie to VHS and guess what..pinnacle lets me down. BRAND new video card. I had to burn a Video CD with some cheap program that left watermark all over the footage and cut the audio off so it would be delayed...and it wouldn't fit on one CD so I burned 2 of them. Then I played them on my DVD player and recorded them onto a VHS...came out HORRIBLE!!!

Thanks Pinnacle.
Thanks for letting my dad spend 100 bucks on my birthday.
Thanks for not replying to the dozens of emails I sent you.
Thanks for not replying to the posts I left on your forums.
Thanks for releasing a new damn version after I bought mine.
Thanks for deleting the freaking page on your website for the product I have, and when I need it badly and have to register it online to get the full features I want, even thought I BOUGHT THIS PRODUCT, the webpage doesn't work and I can't register my product.
Thanks for ruining my career.
Thanks for bringing in my footage at HORRIBLE quality.
Thanks for all your dropped frames.
Thanks for all your INTERLACED FOOTAGE on every movie I have created.
Thanks for all the times that I stayed up all night on your forums trying to resolve an issue.
Thanks for making me open you a week after my birthday.
Thanks for not accepting to return your product to the store.
Thanks for having a REDUCED price on your product...WOW 6 dollars off, but after taxes it was OVER $100

Thank you, Thank You, Thank you.

I hope you can ruin my BRAND NEW UPCOMING film like
you did to all the others...HORRIBLE quality.
If I playback my camera in an IMAX theater it will STILL be good quality....better than your piece of crap quality...even at half size, 320 X 240 it's still HORRIBLE INTERLACED.

Good luck...

Pinnacle= noun; the most successful point

YEAH RIGHT..THAT WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN WITH YOU GUYS..


That's why BECAUSE OF YOU..I have to go OVER BUDGET
on my upcoming film and rent a camera for AT LEAST 300 a day and...who knows..it might fall or something happen to it...I'm the one who's neck is going to be cut off...
I mean...now my movie is going to be 1000 bucks over budget..and nobody is even going to watch it...
go all that trouble just because your video card doesn't satisfy me and the billions of others who bought it.

How is this CHEAP video card being used in the industry and has one an award and all this BS about your video card that you put at the top of your package...I don't believe this...

it's HORRIBLE ...PLEASE LISTEN TO ME...SAVE YOUR MONEY AND BUY SOME ICE CREAM INSTEAD...don't even dare to use the word PINNACLE in anything.

It's HORRIBLE!!!!

IT SHOULD BE:

Pinnacle= noun; the most unsuccessful point


HAH!!!! IN YOUR FACE!!!

I still have emails from when I emailed you 3 or 4 years ago..hold on let me check my email....



Customer (NA NA)05/24/2004 03:01 AM how come there is no video coming into my vhs but audio comes perfectly.
this is BS because I made a project for school and im 13 years old and bunch of BS because my project is due tomorrow and Ive been working on this F'n video for 4 days non stop with my friend. 100 dollars for this cheap card was the worst birthday gift I've ever got. Im just crying about my dad having me to buy the worst card ever made out there for such cheap reson I hate pinnicale anything that says pennacle i hate it this is BS because my project is 500 points and Im really stupid and I depended on yuo guys to make it happen, unfortunatly you failed as always


And this is the response I get 2 days later:

Auto-Response05/26/2004 01:36 Thank you for contacting Pinnacle System Support. To serve you better we are implementing new and improved support features. Your email to consumer-support@pinnaclesys.com or consumer-support-us@pinnaclesys.com has been scanned and we have determined that there are solutions to your email on our web site.
Blah Blah blah...after that...then like a month later or something finally someone replies...A HUMAN:




Dear NA,

Thank you for contacting our technical support office. I think in your English classes you should be taught how to submit a business email and keep your language professional. I am sorry to hear that you are having problems with the product and we would like to assist you. We do request that you remain professional. Are you not seeing video in the Capture Mode or Edit? Are you capturing via S-video or Composite? Have you done both of the following: Ensured your settings in Studio are set correctly for either S-video or Composite by clicking to the right of the camera icon in Capture and toggling between S-video and Composite. Tested your video cables to ensure that they are good. To do this, switch cables with a different pair. If they are physically damaged, they will not allow video into Studio. Last, what capture hadware are you using? You have not stated what you are using.



So ...yeah..I just emailed them back...like 5 pages worth of
bad words...Maybe they'll take a year to reply this time..

I don't know..it's just a horrible company...

NEVER USE IT...


Thanks for reading...it took me like an hour to type this..so thanks for reading..

[texabyte]

Removed by User

[3amigosproductions]

Possibly the longest reply ever?

[3amigosproductions]

For under 100 dollars? also i want it to be able to cut paste capture clips, make transitions and all that. I dont know what its called

[SanitySource]

how did that premeire i gave you go?

[3amigosproductions]

It didnt work

[3amigosproductions]

Anyone????

[SanitySource]

what? did u read the comments and do what the ppl told you to?

[3amigosproductions]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo

[SanitySource]

fucking stupid

[3amigosproductions]

Ass hole i dont have enough space

[SanitySource]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooo

..o

[rab236]

use t@b zs4 (even though it sucks)

[Tacitcal_nudge]

<quote>Why would you buy a mac, unless your going for for Final cut, with Macs your paying like 500-700 just for apprence, the opperating system on a Mac is good because there are no viruses, but with Windows (VISTA BLOWS) you have more options if you figure out film making is more of a hobby or even more of a pain then anything else. then your not stuck with a peice of junk since you can use it for alot of other stuff<quote>

macs do not suck u suck no go mastribate like u do every monday


Ahha good one, since we all take computers so dearly that we would kill each other over them.

I can care less what you say cause NO ONE ASKED YOU. So go back into your cardboard box. and rembered NO ONE ASKED YOU TO COMMENT

[rrh]

I have the basic imovie that came with my lap top. I only use it for movies that don't have a lot of effects. It doesn't come with chroma key, but you can allegedly buy a plugin from here:
http://www.geethree.com/slick/galleries/d_v4.html

[ctvfilms]

Im getting adobe after effects version 5.0 is it good?

adobe affter effects is alright, not much different then 6 or 7,

i use 7 and hope to upgrade soon.

[etentertainment]

iMovie doesn't but iChat does???? haha yeah....iChat does have chroma key...except it's
a different way of keying....iChat, part of iLife '08.

[Brainstrained]

You can get a third party plug-in for imovie to use chroma, but it costs money. I don't remember the website, but google around a bit and you'll find it.

[Tyler54321217]

I am looking for an editing Software under $400 that will let me green screen and add in muzzle flashes. if you know of any please post the software, the price, and if it will work on windows. ;)

[nooneimportant77]

final cut express

[mr Tree]

final cut dosn't work on windows so i would sugest premiere elements 4 ( $100 )

[nooneimportant77]

wow i cant believe i missed that, i usually try to read everything so i dont post something stupid.

anyway, in that case i've heard great things about sony vegas.

remember to try the free demo of whatever you want before you download it.

[FyceDesigns]

Here's the plan: Buy FXhome's programs EffectsLab Pro and CompositeLab Pro from http://fxhome.com (http://fxhome.com/). They're each $150. Or, if you order before January 31st, you could get VisionLab Studio for $350. Go to the website for details.

For compiling, trimming, and editing your clips, you could either use WMM, or buy something like Adobe Premiere Elements. I found it here on eBay for a BuyItNow price of $40: http://cgi.ebay.com/ADOBE-PREMIERE-ELEMENTS-3-0-Mint-Condition_W0QQitemZ290197411785QQihZ019QQcategoryZ 86732QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Good luck!

[FreshMentos]

If you want to create muzzle flashes in an editor, it's going to be difficult and they're going to look awful. You can also chroma key (green screening) in a lot of NLE's (video editors) but it's not practical and your not going to get very good results either. I recommend that you buy sony vegas movie studio platinum edition for your editing. Then, buy VisionLab from FXhome (http://fxhome.com). I own VisionLab and it does wonders for me. It will do what you want, and more (lightsabers?)!

[Shenanigans]

I use sony vegas. Got it for christmas and already love it. Sure as hell beats windows movie maker!

[Darkmast508]

I use sony vegas. Got it for christmas and already love it. Sure as hell beats windows movie maker!

same case.

[DeviousTom]

Use sony vegas for editing and after effects for the muzzle flashes etc.

trust me ^_^

[mr Tree]

if you want to do visual effects for under $300 (asuming you bought premiere element for $100) i'd look one ebay or whatever for a old version of after effects like 6.5 or 7

after effects 7 here on ebay
here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Adobe-After-Effects-7-0-Professional-Education-Version_W0QQitemZ300189835174QQihZ020QQcategoryZ99 335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[sonnyfromda02]

My vote goes for Sony Vegas Movie Studio as well.

[rab236]

sony vegas platinum for $87.00 (http://www.academicsuperstore.com/market/marketdisp.html?PartNo=823797&qk_srch=vegas)

[Denzel Wash Me Down]

Help! I am currently using Pinnacle Studios 10.6 and the chroma key and green screen effects are very confusing for me. Any help would TREMENDOUSLY APPRECIATED!

Hallelujah Jaffar!

[vuducvuong]

Here is the tutorials on green screen in Pinnacle. It's about at the end of the clip. Keep watching until the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge1RZnl-bb8

[vuducvuong]

Working with the Pinnacle. Ulead, Powerdirector.... Your green Screen must be perfectly 1 solid color. Otherwise it will left over some dark-green pixelate around the edge of your object. If you work in Adobe products those have the keylight plugin which can eliminate those extra. Try to work with Adobe Product, You will love it better than every other software. It does look confusing at the begining, But you will be fine after a month using it.

[westonwellman]

ok now i can't find a chroma key program for me. I need a free program besides Wax. It sucks. Is there any free program i could use? I'm working on a movie but it is just too science fictiony. I need chroma key. I'm broke and even if i had enough for Vegas And After Effects my mom wouldn't le me buy it.:'( But my passion is movies and music so...please help someone. I need a free program besides Debugmode Wax.
Thanks
-Weston
Wellman

[ilikecookies]

i don't think there are any

[Kevinaz]

I THINK "jahshaka" has chroma key plugin.

[ibend1]

you can key out colors with adobe premeire elements (witch costs about 100 bucks)...

[texabyte]

Ahha good one, since we all take computers so dearly that we would kill each other over them.

I can care less what you say cause NO ONE ASKED YOU. So go back into your cardboard box. and rembered NO ONE ASKED YOU TO COMMENT

f off retard

[The Chosen]

I THINK "jahshaka" has chroma key plugin.

How do you do that? I'm in dire need of help lol.

[ilikecookies]

i hate jahshaka! it's soo hard to use and it's stupid

[Kevinaz]

How do you do that? I'm in dire need of help lol.

I honestly don't know. I tried using jahshaka once, but it was being a bitch about installing, so I've never tried it. but I heard somewhere that it has chromakey. But I could be wrong.

[music_jake]

I am not for sure. But i think there is one called Keylight that is free
http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/pkg_downloads.aspx?ui=A5FB8E97-D752-4E01-AC7D-17B39B7E1192

Its on the indymogul extra page.


An if worse comes to worse WWM Does have a chroma key. Crappy yes but its a chroma key.

[ArmedSaint]

well this is actually a cheap program that has chroma key if you go to amazon you can buy sony vegas 8 for 50$$ ill give u a link http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RLQNQ2/sr=8-2/qid=1204815870/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1204815870&sr=8-2&seller=

Click new and used and scroll down there is one for 49.99 3.99 shipping

[TheJoker]

CompositeLab Pro by FXhome.com is a very good programme, its not free but it's well worth the price of £89 ($149) they have a nice selection of programmes including special effects too so I would highly reccomend checking them out, you can download a demo too :)

[The Chosen]

Alright -- I'll check all those links out. Thanks, guys.

- TC

[toppie34]

ow get a trail version of some adobe or vegas products and do use that to key it out but wax is actually pretty good with keying

[piro_rocker132]

A composite lab demo would do most chroma keying but isnt good with white. BTW jahashaka or whatever sucks

[bhtre123]

Does anyone know of a good editing program that i can get on no budget? the max would be like $100.
Thanks
:thumbsup:

edit: i want this program to be able to do the lightsaber effect or something close to it, and have keying for greenscreens

[FyceDesigns]

Check out Adobe Premiere.
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Adobe-Photoshop-Elements-Premiere-Elements-3-0_W0QQitemZ150231584835QQihZ005QQcategoryZ51344QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[bhtre123]

thanks, but i'm still open for suggestion. anyother free or cheap editing applications? Wax doesn't work.

[redtail5]

30 bucks wont realy do anything you want.

100 bucks gets you vegas platinum, but its more dificult for some things like cloning.

[SivartAlappesProductions]

Free=Windows Movie Maker, imovie, or 30-day trials.

Unless of course you want to go illegalish and just torrent the sucker!

[mopman]

30 bucks??? I don't even have a job and I was able to scrounge up more than that. You are gonna need to spend at least $100> to get even a decent editor

[bhtre123]

30 bucks??? I don't even have a job and I was able to scrounge up more than that. You are gonna need to spend at least $100> to get even a decent editor

you are right, i never really thought of that. but you see, i am a thirteen yr old kid and so yea... it would look kinda wierd to spend $100 for that. But you are right.:steve:

[SivartAlappesProductions]

you are right, i never really thought of that. but you see, i am a thirteen yr old kid and so yea... it would look kinda wierd to spend $100 for that. But you are right.:steve:


um... why would it look weird?

[Nintendo_Fanboy]

For lightsaber effect LSmaker!
http://lsmaker.uw.hu/page.php?main=lsmaker.html#lsmaker
It takes quite a bit of time but its free and works well if you do it right.

And ChromaKeying use ZS4.
http://www.zs4.net/
I've used it and it works great. Plus it's also free. Here's a link how to do it:
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-add-Chroma-key-green-screen-effects-to-a-_1/

[GasMaskMagician]

Sony Vegas.

[ionfilms]

Download it................... illegal I know but these programs are way overpriced, STICK IT TO THE MAN! Vegas is great and so is any Adobe editing program.

[BinBinProductions]

i highly sugest adobe not vegas

[randychico]

I've never tried it but you asked for something cheap.. or better yet, FREEEEEEEeeeEEEeeeEeEeEeeeee

http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/


And then there's the one you see linked on indymogul http://www.zs4.net/

[sonnyfromda02]

Sony Vegas.

[Sam_rocks321]

sony vegas platinum

[Dogproductions]

:cool:Anyone know if there is a free chroma key program?
(post link)

[sonnyfromda02]

There's already TONS of threads about this. Here's one:

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=6016&highlight=chroma+key%2A

[ilikecookies]

...shut the *********************************************** up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mr_morp]

there is a chroma key in windows movie maker, but its not very good, but its free

[Dogproductions]

thx guys

[nolan]

seriously?how do you chroma key in movie maker?

[Dogproductions]

Guys i did the Wmm chroma keyit doesnt work.And keylight is a plugin its not a program. I need a program not a plugin.

[ciwi286]

The wmm chroma key does work you just need to have and PERFECT green.

[toppie34]

wax 2.0 is a really good one you can adjus alot of tingsor a free program
www.debugmode.com/wax/ (http://forum.indymogul.com/www.debugmode.com/wax/)

[Dogproductions]

i can never find the shortcut for wax once i donload it.

[mmk8394]

Until I can get my student discount on Final Cut in September, I'm stuck to freeware. So, I've been trying to get by with imovie8, but really...its just...crap- you guys know that. I mean, hell, I cant even speed up a clip for a youtube how-to, even though the older versions had that capability.

I'm looking for something nearly bare bones, even something as simple as Windows Movie maker, but Mac-compatible.
So... is there some freeware, or demo that isn't a time-sensitive trial out there that's easy enough to navigate?
Would it just make more sense to uninstall iMovie8 and download an older version which has what I need?

I know it's an oft-asked question..sorry....

[BinBinProductions]

No, i would keep iMovie 8.

[ciwi286]

Hi! I see you new to the forums so first of all welcome. Up under where you log in there is a search function. Please use it in future before posting new threads:

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=1089&highlight=freeware

[ClayOgre]

Well, there is a sort of "workaround" you might try. There are several Linux live CD's targeted at multimedia. Perhaps the best known of these is dyne:bolic. (http://www.dynebolic.org/)

You can probably find some others at distrowatch.com (http://www.distrowatch.com). These may have some of the other video editors such as Kino, Lives, and KDEnlive.

If you are unaware as to what a Linux live CD is, it is a complete linux distro that loads and runs totally off the CD, temporarily turning your computer into a Linux box. Dyne:bolic can create a "nest" for itself to store files on the hard drive.

Dyne:bolic comes with Cinelerra (http://cinelerra.org/), an NLE video editor, which includes functions like chroma key and very basic motion tracking.

The drawback is that finding documentation on how to use it can be a bit dicey at times.

Another possibility is the Gimp, with the GAP (Gimp Animation Package) add on. This has no audio support. So you'd have to strip off the audio with some other program (Avidemux, maybe VirtualDub) and then add it back in later...kinda cumbersome. GAP is hard to use, but you can do a lot with it. You basically split your video into a series of individual frames, and each frame can have multiple layers. You have access to most of Gimp's image processing filters, masking, and a move path editor. GAP probaly isn't practical for large projects, but for special effects, you can do quite a bit with it, it just requires patience. It also doesn't have an undo feature, so you really have to think about what you are doing beforehand. GAP has a chroma-keying function called BlueBox, as well.

[ciwi286]

Something not mentioned (I thought it was) in the freeware thread is
Avid Dv (http://www.afreecodec.com/mac/191/avid-free-dv/download/)

Its discontinued so there is no support, but avid link you to forums and tutorials
Here (http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp)

[mmk8394]

ciwi- i did check the thread, but there was nothing for mac available that I saw would fit what I want.

If Avid is discontinued, doesnt that mean I can't get it now, since i didnt have it before?

[ciwi286]

You can download it in the link I gave above (click on the words Avid Dv)

Actually come to think of it I'm not sure if that is the windows or mac version.

Edit: sorry I posted two dead end links!
It was free and is discontinued so this ain't illegal!

http://download.chip.eu/en/Avid-Free-DV-1.6.1_101934.html

Serial Number: AvidFreeDV-31E3
Authorization Code: AF7R-XJ5C-UC7K-552H-KE7Q


Althought there are some user reviews saying it is quite complicated and annoying to learn.

[birdmanxxx]

does anyone know if you can do it? and if you can is it crappy?

[fallingstarstudios]

you have to use a bluescreen..

follow these directions...

Here's an improved version of the Bluescreen (aka Chroma non-red) transition...

A few improvements:
1) Changed the similarity to its highest value (100) to get as many shades of blue as possible
2) Added Progress value = 0.0 to stop the blue screen from fading out at the end.
3) Renamed it to "Bluescreen" for all those confused about what "non-red" meant.
4) Changed the icon (now a pale blue rectangle)

Here's the improved "bluescreen" XML:

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0" >
<Transitions>
<TransitionDLL guid="{C5B19592-145E-11D3-9F04-006008039E37}" >
<Transition name="Bluescreen" iconid="12" comment="Makes first clip show through blue areas of second clip">
<Param name="KeyType" value="1"/>
<Param name="Similarity" value="100"/>
<Param name="Progress" value="0.0"/>
</Transition>
</TransitionDLL>
</Transitions>
</TransitionsAndEffects>

As before, first make sure you have a C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX folder; if not create one.
Copy the code above into Notepad (Start > All Programs > Accessories > Notepad)
Save the file into C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\Shared\AddOnTFX as bluescreen.xml.

When you restart WMM, you should have a new transition called Bluescreen. To use it:
1) Put your background image (or clip) on the timeline first. Make sure it is longer than the clip to be "bluescreened".
2) Put the bluescreen video clip next (footage in front of a bluescreen).
3) Put the "Bluescreen" transition between the two.
4) Grab the left edge of the bluescreen transition and move it as far as possible to the left (but not all the way or you'll lose it).

When you view it, you'll see the background clip showing through the blue areas of the foreground clip. It will probably be necessary to save the movie and reimport it to remove the few extra frames at the beginning before the bluescreen transition starts.

[KASR]

WMM doesn't support Chroma Keying - although you can create a chroma key (green screen) effect with the transition....but I don't recommend it. Pony up to Vegas.

[birdmanxxx]

What do i do with "bluescreen" XML? i get everything else. but do i save that as something or what?

[mmk8394]

You can download it in the link I gave above (click on the words Avid Dv)

Actually come to think of it I'm not sure if that is the windows or mac version.

Edit: sorry I posted two dead end links!
It was free and is discontinued so this ain't illegal!

http://download.chip.eu/en/Avid-Free-DV-1.6.1_101934.html

Serial Number: AvidFreeDV-31E3
Authorization Code: AF7R-XJ5C-UC7K-552H-KE7Q


Althought there are some user reviews saying it is quite complicated and annoying to learn.
Unfortunately, it says its Windows :-(


THank you very much for helping, though!:fcross:

[ciwi286]

Did you try the first link I gave?

Avid Dv (http://www.afreecodec.com/mac/191/avid-free-dv/download/)

[sgt.stealth]

download imovie 06 its free because so many people complained about i movie 08

check it out herehttp://www.apple.com/support/downloads/imovieHD6.html

[Nintendo_Fanboy]

imovie... is it possible to run it on windows? :] I know macs can download Windows Media Player... but could Vista *shudders* run imovie?

[mindstormmaster1]

Does anyone know of a good free green screen program?


I have tryed WAX and it bearly works and T@B ZS4 doesnt work in Vista. Any other ideas?

Ethan

Sorry if Im the 100th person to post this.

[KMProductions]

I really don't know of any free programs. But if there were any, the suck. Just invest in FXlab or buy Vegas or FCE and it will come with a green screen program. If you really love film making, you don't need to get every free. You need to invest some.
Just some words of advice.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

KMProductions is right. I once tried to score some free chroma-key software, and it did NOT work to my satisfaction. If you really want your films to look good and you're serious about it, Vegas works wonders until you can afford something better.

[DigitalVideo]

If you really love film making, you don't need to get every free. You need to invest some.
Just some words of advice.

Personally, I would say the same thing. However, if you're like me, then you have no money to invest anyways. I have a bit of money, but before I can spend money on software I need to buy a better computer.

[drweir]

My problem is I have good software but my camera sucks!

[mindstormmaster1]

I would love to invest in a good software but I have no money to invest.

[Videopia]

CineGobs is worth a try: http://www.cinegobs.com

In my experience, most keying issues (and most suckie cameras) can at least be improved with lights. Lots and lots of lights.

[ClayOgre]

I've mentioned this before... but Gimp GAP has bluebox that you might try. It's kinda cumbersome to work with and it has a pretty steep learning curve, but it is free. You have to split your video into frames first, then run bluebox on one frame to see what your settings will be, then run it on all the frames. It may take multiple passes through your footage to get everything the way you want. Then you have to put the individual frames back into a video format, which is apparently broken in the latest release. I use Avidemux for that purpose.

[schmindy]

Hey Ethan,
Just use ubuntu (www.ubuntu.com) and the program cinelerra it is the best free video editor out there! :cool:

[toppie34]

i personally think save up for sony vega platininum

[redtail5]

My problem is I have good software but my camera sucks!

funny i have NO good editing programs (all demos and free shit)

but i have a cick ass camera!

[mad monkey awesomeness productions]

Can someone tell me how to use chroma key in Windows Movie Maker, I've tried before but it doesn't work, but it never appears in the transitions box.

[happyhands man]

you cant do that in windows movie maker......

[ciwi286]

Well what exactly did you do...maybe then we can help you. You need to create a new folder (cant remember the name(there are some tutorials on youtube and www.detonationfilms.com on how to set it up)) and put the .xml file into that.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

They have a code for it on the WMM forums, but it looks like crap (as you can see in the screen shot below.) and you can't change the settings.
http://img109.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2008/06/18/image29-4avvss4mz.jpeg
If you want to do any quality chroma key, you'll have to look outside of Windows Movie Maker. I think there's a link to a program for green-screen on Indy Mogul's home page, but I don't know how well it works. Otherwise, just save up some money and get Vegas or a similar program.

[mad monkey awesomeness productions]

I made a file called "AddOnTFX" In the Shared folder of the movie maker file. Then, I put the .xml file I got at www.detotationfilms.com (http://www.detotationfilms.com) in the folder, but for some reason it doesn't appear in the transitions file. I have a particle software that will let me have layers, but the chroma keying in that is horrible, but if it's not as bad as wmm, I'll just stick with that.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

I made a file called "AddOnTFX" In the Shared folder of the movie maker file. Then, I put the .xml file I got at www.detotationfilms.com (http://www.detotationfilms.com) in the folder, but for some reason it doesn't appear in the transitions file. I have a particle software that will let me have layers, but the chroma keying in that is horrible, but if it's not as bad as wmm, I'll just stick with that.
Where did you find .xml files at detonationfilms?

Here's a website telling you how to do it,
http://www.wikihow.com/Chroma-Key-in-Windows-Movie-Maker
but as I said before, I was extremely unsatisfied with the way it looks.

[mad monkey awesomeness productions]

I'd have to agree I'll just get Vegas, I was considering buying that before but it think this is just the right reason to close the deal and go for it.

[UndergroundLairProductions]

I'd have to agree I'll just get Vegas, I was considering buying that before but it think this is just the right reason to close the deal and go for it.
Well, besides that, Vegas has many other functions that WMM lacks as well, such as the ability to crop, picture in picture, basic motion tracking, and a lot more.

[Producer 9]

i need it

[EnipProductions]

Use search, I have a sticky for free editing software