Arrow Shot

[nhwotton]

I think it would be cool to shoot someone with an arrow.

With out using green screen.

[17thletterfilms]

All you need is an arrow, a bow, and a person. Shoot the arrow at the person. Done! Note: Make sure to roll camera, cuz your talent may not be able to handle another take.

****I DO NOT ADVISE THIS AT ALL, I AM JUST JOKING****

Just use your BFX dummy and shoot an arrow at it.

[lukky]

Simple.

Get a shot of a guy shooting a bow, then quickly follow the arrow. Next, cut the arrow and attach it to your actor, make it look like the guy got shot. (add some blood and what have you)

They do the same type of quick movement to the guy with the arrow. Edit it together, maybe add some motion blurs to make it look seamless, and BAM.

[WesScog]

Have a shot of someone shooting an arrow, then zoom to the person getting hit holding a fake arrow with fake blood around it, and him screaming.

[pyromaniac]

I have been wondering how to make arrow wounds for some time now. In every one of my projects the shaft comes out. I would me nice to have some help.

[WesScog]

You cut the arrow, and you have to attach it to your body with spirit gum, you have to create a wider base for the arrow to stick to your body, like a suction cup.

OR, you attach them to a bit of string and tie them to your body.

[PointyStickProductions]

What's worked best for me is to take 3 2"x2" squares of insulating foam held together with gaffer tape, and stick that on the inside of your costume. Then take an arrow and stick it into the foam block. It can be difficult to position the shots so it looks realistic, but once you do, it looks really good.
(Don't forget the fake blood! :))

[sam/gone/mad]

:confused:hey any suggestion to a kick ass cool arrow shot effects.:learn: need one really bad for my horror movie. :fcross:so please Indy Mogul i need the effect.:'(


PS i tried utub but did not find a thing and the way you guys show it. it would be more easy to do than reading it your fan

[Captain SteveBeard]

What exactly do you want? "Arrow shot" doesn't describe much.

[sam/gone/mad]

OK here I'll set the setting your in the woods and then a scene of the killer pulls the the string and lets go and then the arrow hits you in this case in the chest then you fall and die, and you are bleeding as soon as the arrow hits you. OK i think that is plenty in detail.

[Captain SteveBeard]

Well, you could do the under-the-arm trick for just a quick shot of the impact. Attach some fishing line to the back of an arrow, then tuck the arrow under your actor's arm and be sure to get a convincing side-view. Then, yank the arrow back really hard by pulling the fishing line off-camera. Reverse the video, mess with the speed, and make sure he acts "backwards" too.

You have a lot of different blood squirting effects to choose from, so see what looks best to rig up on his body.

Then, after you show the arrow impact, you can cut to a different angle. This shot will be of the actor with the tip of the arrow cut off and lodged in his chest. Really, you can just tape it on under his clothes. Add some fake blood dripping, and you've got a convincing effect.

I know you want stuff visually, but I tried to keep stuff as simply explained as possible.

[bckrick]

If it is fairly low budget and cheezy, you can just tape a stick with feathers on it to the person's chest under their clothes, and cover the wound in blood. Cut from the firing shot, immediately to when the person is hit. If you need to you can add some sort of compositing shot of the arrow flying inbetween. A lot of this stuff can be done with creative cuts.

[pyromaniac]

heres an idea. first youll need 2 arrows and a bow (duh). what you do is you cut about 6 inches off the tip of one arrow. find a thin block of wood and drill and hole in it that is the same size as the shaft of the arrow. glue the cut arrow into the wood and duct tape the arrow to the actor. set up your actors so that the guy with the arrow in him is out of the screen and the guy with the bow is in the screen. have the archer aim well away from the other actor but not enough that it doesnt look like hes shooting at the other guy. when you film just haev the guy shoot the arrow and then rotate the camra realy fast over to the guy with the arrow in him and have him do the whole being hit by an arrow thing. this is good because normally a moving arrow has a hard time showing up on screen.

[nprules]

pyromaniac is right this is what they do in alot of movies.

[moonwolf]

i would suggest a polystyrene breasts plate the stuff you get equipment packed in hide it under your clothes and make a slit where to want the arrow to hit you then stick the arrow it the breast plate and cover the exposed area in fake blood to hide the breast plate

[SyxxGage]

Pyromaniac has the right idea. Just make sure in post you add the woosh of the flying arrow during the whip pan.

[sam/gone/mad]

thank i'll do that

[Captain SteveBeard]

It might be good to take the tip off the arrow being fired, just for safety reasons.

[Crosius]

An arrow without a tip being fired from even a light draw-weight bow will still penetrate quite a lot of material. Plus, a shaft fired without a tip will likely suffer permanent damage and have to be discarded. Worst of all, an un-tipped shaft can split or shatter if it hits something hard.

Your safest (and most economical) practice would be to clear the set down-range of the archer, and shoot an arrow fitted with a practice-tip into a good archery butt or a bale of hay.

[sam/gone/mad]

hey I'll cut one of them in half and use the other one as a shooter

[Duanevideos]

BFX!!! Should show us how to make some sort of air cannon to shoot out arrows so it doesnt look like you just through it or put the arrow in front of the camera and sped up the footage.

[Alasdair]

Tell me what sort of shots you're trying to set up and it'lll be way more fun. If you just want run of the mill arrows, it should be fine to show the archer shooting off screen, then cutting to whoever's being shot at with arrows sticking into the walls. If you want to do a dramatic arrow being fired, attach a camera stabiliser and put the arrow head and a bit of shaft into view and run around with it.

The problem with speeding up footage, (and this is something I found out the hard way in my first days of movie making) is that every little camera shake turns into a fucking EARTHQUAKE. So a stabiliser or tripod is a REQUIREMENT if you're going to be speeding up footage.

Alternatively, you could stick some arrows into the side of a building or whatever, attach fishing lines, and give them a good yank - play this footage in reverse in the movie and add sound effects!

Also, why would you want an air cannon? If the arrows were actually being shot (dangerous if it's at a person obviously) why wouldn't you just use a bow?

[Duanevideos]

Would A Green Screen work I Could Put it on some fishing line and just move the camera.:learn:

[Alasdair]

Well the problem is that arrows move too fast for you to get much from a single shot of the arrow going by. Maybe you should watch some movies with archery to get some ideas for how to set up the shots?

I think the best bet is to have shots of somebody firing arrows off camera and cut to them sticking into people or whatever you want them stuck in.

[Zombeast]

Couldn't you just get a cheap bow, stand off screen and shoot?

[chasingchase]

unless you are talking about a bunch of arrows going through the air?
like a whole army shot arrows?

[drumsofdoom]

just have the victim stand sideways with the arrow behind his arm fith fishing line attached to the back end like this

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then you pull the fishing line and then reverse the footage for the impaling part

[tanner]

U can just shoot the arrow tape it flying in the woods then cut off half of it then tape it under the actors shirt and a hole coverd up by the arrow and have blood coming out?

[Alasdair]

Just out of curiosity sam, is English your first language?

[sam/gone/mad]

up ur bud if your going to be a jerk do it some where Else

Just out of curiosity sam, is English your first language?

[Alasdair]

Does that mean yes or no?

[sam/gone/mad]

no hey is that your face or do use that face because its better looking than your real face. see how do you like that when others make fun of you????

[sam/gone/mad]

as you can see i try to do SFX but some people don't they want to look bad and smart off stuff. if you read this answer this do you care how others type only as long it's readable:confused::confused: thank you ----
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:supermad::supermad::supermad:Just out of curiosity SAM, is English your first language?

[biohazard]

what pyromaniac said can still be dangerous. It's generally not a good idea to fire when there is a person within the 180 degree semicircle (was that really redundant?) in front of you.what i suggest is something similar. maybe fire at nothing and pan very quickly so everything is a blur. make sure to pan only side to side not up or down. then take another shot with the fast pan to the actor with the arrow in his back, while you are panning cue the actor to act as if he got hit. make sure the camera doesn't move (rotated left or right is ok) between both shots. then edit them together where the match is nearly perfect.Maybe have a very short crossfade in between. getting your actor/actress to take the shot at the right time may take a few tries.

[punkandska66]

sam, your being very spazzy, an noone likes that. you could of just yes or no...

[Alasdair]

as you can see i try to do SFX but some people don't they want to look bad and smart off stuff. if you read this answer this do you care how others type only as long it's readable:confused::confused: thank you ----
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:supermad::supermad::supermad:

See, this isn't readable at all. I had to read it several times to try and figure out what you were saying.

I was asking if English is your first language because if it isn't, your poor communication skills are excusable.

It's hard to help people with FX if you can't read what they're typing. It sounds like you just strung a bunch of random words together and called it a sentence. What's with the Is?

[Alasdair]

no hey is that your face or do use that face because its better looking than your real face. see how do you like that when others make fun of you????

What on earth does this mean? Are you trying to call me ugly? Are you asking me not to make fun of you? Do you want to see a picture of me? It is a mystery what is going on here.

[sam/gone/mad]

yes thier see ya.

[sam/gone/mad]

hey I'm working on a arrow shot so hold on.:fcross::fcross::hayguyz:

[Captain SteveBeard]

Why'd you make this thread?

[Doctor Webley]

Please, not again.

[samthemusicman12]

oh dear

[Dingo-John]

omg deja vu... well still, good luck.. hope you have checked out all the "Arrow hit" threads in the Forums...

[glmclainmovies]

Its sickness all over again...

[Captain SteveBeard]

Its sickness all over again...

No phrase has ever instilled so much fear in me.

[glmclainmovies]

I HAVE THE POWER!!!:fap::fap::fap:

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

Why the hell start this thread again?

Captain Stevebeard and many others kindly gave you some advice here (http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=2185&highlight=arrow).

Now read it and move on.

[sam/gone/mad]

i know but i watched this movie called sleep away camp and it had this arrow shot that looked real. i know the whole arrow shot has been said, but not done so I'll try to make it. merry christmas to you all.

[Whole Milk Productions]

k cool

[Luchastyle]

sleepaway camp also had professional make-up artists. even if it is a crappy low budget slasher. i hope your arrow hit is decent. otherwise this thread is completely unwarranted. and i imagine that since you are telling us to wait for it, it will be good, and you will do a tutorial

[sam/gone/mad]

yes it takes time to do this.

[sam/gone/mad]

here are some i found almost like what i'll do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL0TABJ3n80&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMZV677IyEI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I3zUAFyrgg&feature=related

[Luchastyle]

how long could it possibly take? you show a guy shooting the arrow. then you show a guy with the arrow in him. that's easy. and i think that's how everyone would do it anyway. if that's all you're doing, i don't think it's necessary. unless you have a way to make it look as if the arrow is entering the person.

[Eight Legged Freak]

Anyone seen V For Vendetta? I wouldn't mind something like those slow motion throwing knives in one of my movies. They looked quite cool. I'm pretty sure I could put a knife in front of a chroma background, but I'm not sure how to spin the knife or the camera that way.

[Captain SteveBeard]

Anyone seen V For Vendetta? I wouldn't mind something like those slow motion throwing knives in one of my movies. They looked quite cool. I'm pretty sure I could put a knife in front of a chroma background, but I'm not sure how to spin the knife or the camera that way.

http://vforvendetta.warnerbros.com/index2.html

Watch the clips under "knife sequence".

[sam/gone/mad]

hey i' am almost done I've worked out a step by step of how to do this. and it will look good.

[sam/gone/mad]

OK got it done it has been sent to here, so hope Indy plays it it was good i made sure it was my friend said they couldn't believe it was fake.

[Luchastyle]

k. we'll see how it turns out. if you don't get a response from IM in a week, upload it to youtube and show us

[John W]

I can't wait :)

[mensen59]

wats the point of going on fx request and saying ur making sommat

[sam/gone/mad]

I SENT IT BUT IT'LL TAKE TIME IF NOT I SEND IT AGIN

[17thletterfilms]

Just upload it to YouTube.

[KMProductions]

Just upload it to YouTube.

Nah he should do that if IM doesn't show it. It's cooler if it a Weekend Extra.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

OK got it done it has been sent to here, so hope Indy plays it it was good i made sure it was my friend said they couldn't believe it was fake.

I hope you did well but when ever people say "my friend said" about something I always sense crap. I hope it's not but the instincts there.

[sam/gone/mad]

its good

[Luchastyle]

we'll see.

[mensen59]

he bores me to death sam gone mad does, does he bore you

[mensen59]

?????

[mensen59]

if he doesnt send it to youtube and indy mogul does not show it hes deffinatly lieing and he said my film was going down. so he can cut the crap and give some respect, so called 'sam/gone/mad'.

[mensen59]

he bores me to death sam gone mad does.
aaaaaaaah im dieing aaaaaaaaah

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

its good

Upload it to You Tube then.

[mensen59]

Upload it to You Tube then.
yeah upload it and tell us the address

[sam/gone/mad]

i tried that and all it said is it sent me a confirmation to my e-mail, and i wait and wait. it's been 5 days since i did that and they haven't done it. I'll try again.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

You didn't make one did you. Don't pull a Sickness Inc on us:nonono:.

[punkandska66]

Don't pull a Sickness Inc on us:nonono:.

a new addition to the family! first it was Sickness, then it was the unicorn dude, whats his name... Alasdair!, then M_kozmova, now Sam! congrats!

[sam/gone/mad]

the upload part is hard I've sent for it and got nothing,:eek:You didn't make one did you. Don't pull a Sickness Inc on us:nonono:.

[17thletterfilms]

Just upload it to YouTube then.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

He's not done it. It's pretty obvious.

[punkandska66]

well DUUUUURRRR. of course he's not done. otherwise he would of put it up on youtube and gave us the link

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

Well it's to stop people going "ARRRRGGGHHH give me a link!" and don't insult my intelligence, at least I use CAPITAL LETTERS after full stops.

[sam/gone/mad]

hey if any one can help me, i'll use it. how do i get a video on you tube.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

Foolish child. :slap:

[17thletterfilms]

Create an account. Then click on the upload button (in the top right). Then enter the necessary details (title, genre, details, etc.) Then, click next. After that click on the browse button and navigate to your file. Then hit upload. After it's done uploading, it'll take a few minutes to show up. Then you can click on it, and post the link here.

[sam/gone/mad]

i said i press upload but it said it will send me a confirmation and the haven't

[17thletterfilms]

Those are instructions for YouTube uploading.

[sam/gone/mad]

well it has been a long time and it say i have to con. my e-mail

[17thletterfilms]

So upload it to YouTube!

[17thletterfilms]

What happened to this?

[sam/gone/mad]

hey they haven't yet they say i have no e-mail but yet i get mail some time

[sam/gone/mad]

hey got it on yahoo but its taking a while to upload i 'll tell yu when its done

[sam/gone/mad]

:love::love:here you go watch this http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A86.OSKTpH5HwYIAShACP88F;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHZkMjZ yBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12374hmq3/EXP=1199568403/**http%3A//video.yahoo.com/video/play%3Fvid=1749624
and i hope you enjoy this have a nice day:hayguyz::hayguyz:

[punkandska66]

you kidding me?

[kpb730]

It's "currently unavailable"

[sam/gone/mad]

trty it now i had to pub it

[sam/gone/mad]

it work good 4 me

[punkandska66]

i saw it, it worked for me. but honestly, it took you a month to do that? all you had to do was have a guy shoot the arrow, change the shot to a shot of a guy holding the arrow in his stomach for like 10 seconds, then have him throw it from his stomach and play it backwards.you can do that in ten minutes not a month.

[sam/gone/mad]

no thats not how it was made

[sam/gone/mad]

and i know it took a while i' am sorry but i have to go 2 work you know i dont have the time to get it done

[sam/gone/mad]

the scene of the arrow being hit on me was really on string and was thrown at me then it moved slow so i had to speed it up OK i hope u like it, my mom said it was good

[ThreeOnAMeathook]

my mom said it was good.

Because she loves you. :love:

[samthegorefan]

up it
that meant i needed to edit it a little bit more

[samthegorefan]

hey he did good

[Fisherking]

You see, I would normally proffer constructive criticism at such a time. However, the flaws are so glaringly obvious that I dare not insult your intelligence by condescending to presume you aren't cognizant of them all. It is evident, rather, that you do not care. Put some consideration and effort into your work, man!

[rrh]

What was the point of the jump cut right after he's hit? To cover that, you could have shown a close up of his face or something.

[kpb730]

I saw it now, I assume the jump cut is because of the time being sped up maybe? or if not a different angle, or you can make the change from high speed to normal speed somewhat gradual so it blends in.

[17thletterfilms]

Sam, why do you have two users?

[Anonymous_Review]

Hi, this is my first post but i'll be all critical anyway.
Ok, so you've basically got the formula right, shoot an arrow, cut to shot, re-cut and show death.

As many of the other guys are saying you could do better.

Where you've gone wrong is where you re-cut, I'd suggest that you move the camera forward or zoom it in a bit, and use some soft nose putty or something else (hey, there's plenty of ways about using things for stuff like this on indy mogul) and show the gore off a bit with the arrow sticking out, i'd also buy a cheap arrow, spraypaint it black and split it in half for continuity purposes of making it look like you're not just holding an arrow and it's actually stuck in you.

If you wanna' go with an 80's feel i'd suggest a mega close up of it stuck in you, and face reaction.

Beyond that, for the first shot, i'd have jason shoot you from a more rambo type perspective. Theres one in the new rambo 4 trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1KiXWWTxgHere at 2:48.

As for the second shot, personally i'd do the arrow movement in post with an editing program and quickly cut. That way it won't be so gore filled, but it won't look so home movie either.

Keep at it.

[antivirusforu]

2 days and still didn't finish uploading?

I bet you, even if u did the shot it would be one of the worst shots ever... hahahahhaha... maybe IM can put it to weekend extra as the worst shot ever...

[Whole Milk Productions]

L.M.A.O

[Darkmast508]

Not very good at all, the moment was very sharp, and it looked like you filmed 2 scenes and put them together, make noise to accompany the arrow hitting and flying past.

[samthegorefan]

i went to check my stuff and it log me out so i made a new one due to the fact i forgot my passwordSam, why do you have two users?

[samthegorefan]

actluy its done check out 4 this is the arrow shot

[felix78]

Anyone seen V For Vendetta? I wouldn't mind something like those slow motion throwing knives in one of my movies. They looked quite cool. I'm pretty sure I could put a knife in front of a chroma background, but I'm not sure how to spin the knife or the camera that way.


Actually, that was all 3D...

[Scott]

i went to check my stuff and it log me out so i made a new one due to the fact i forgot my password

Retard.

[HunnyBunchFilms]

lol makes me glad my mother is honest when reviewing any of my videos

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

HAHAHAHAHA!!! I'm sorry but I watched his 3 times in a row. It's just so damn funny!

"Hey who are you?!"
Then you look at the camera for about 3 seconds while the music doesn't change and the dog looks at you.

But since under the new rules I HAVE to give you 2 good points I'll say:

1. Cute dog
2. You switched the camera on. Well done ;).

[samthegorefan]

actually it was to be the view of Jason voorhees seeing me die. i know it wasn't that good but still i don't see any one else doing any thing.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

Oh we are. We just don't put them up unless they're good.

[samthegorefan]

OK man hey i was just trying to help OK i bet that you can make it better OK. really if i did it proper it would've been better OK. it's just i was doing it to waste some time.
hey i love SFX but i wanted to show what it could be like.
good or not it was just a explain

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

How did it explain? You just had a guy shot by an arrow. That's like Indy Mogul just doing a test video.

[samthegorefan]

u know i do not care that is the life of a director and i critics . i must get use to the positive and the negative comment, and use them to better my shorts. thank you all for telling me. it will help me.

[HunnyBunchFilms]

actually it was to be the view of Jason voorhees seeing me die. i know it wasn't that good but still i don't see any one else doing any thing.

most people in this forum have links to their youtube page or own personal websites

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

u know i do not care that is the life of a director and i cricket.

Do you please mind telling me...WHAT THE HELL THAT MEANS?!

[samthegorefan]

well if u don't know then I'll tell you it's good vs bad. see the good r the directors and the bad is the critics. the world has to be balance and use the good and the bad to improve themselves.

so to say is even those my short was bad or good to some. it will help me improve and I'll try not to make the same mistake.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

Then why did you originally say cricket? What do you have against one of England's favourite sporting passtimes?!

http://www.moah.org/exhibits/archives/movies/images/arzner.jpg

+
http://www.durham4business.com/county_durham_images/images/Cricket3.jpg

= WHAT THE HELL?!

[bubblefax]

I am ashamed of how he disrespects England. sniff

[HunnyBunchFilms]

With each new post its getting harder and harder to believe that sam is 18 years old.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

I was pretty shocked. The fact that he thinks "my mum said" is a valid point astounds me further.

[bubblefax]

I know pssh i went in england on vacation and I loved it.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

I went to England on Holiday in this old cottage that was near reported ghost teritorry.

One night I was awoken by tapping on the glass door. A glass door that led out to the old garden near a silent lifeless pond. I ignored it at first but heard a strange rasping noise. Then the tapping began again, this time louder like some benovelent force wished to get in.

I decided I better look or I'd wonder about it for the rest of my life. I wandered through to the living room, it was strangly cold. Slowly I pulled back the curtains which masked the border between me and the creature.

Only for me to gaze upon a scarlet molten face which gazed back it me with errie green spooky eyes. That belonged to...



















































































http://birds.cornell.edu/crows/images/Muscovy-Duck-051a.jpg

...THIS TYPE OF DUCK! (a muscovy to be exact).

A duck that the next day would steal a chicken breast off the barbeque we had!

[bubblefax]

haha I i went to London for a week and Scotland for 2 weeks.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

What did you think of Scotland then? Be harsh I know I am about Scotland.

[Scott]

u know i do not care that is the life of a director and i critics . i must get use to the positive and the negative comment, and use them to better my shorts. thank you all for telling me. it will help me.


Lol. Noob.

[Anonymous_Review]

I know pssh i went in england on vacation and I loved it.
Try LIVING here ;/

[vega.]

easily the best video.
I haven't laughed this hard in a month at LEAST.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

Yes I agree the only thing that compares is:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXL7HflU1Q&feature=related

[vega.]

HAHAHA wow check the other thread! I just BARELY commented basically that same thing.

[HunnyBunchFilms]

My sister says you look like a fatter Josh Peck.

[WesScog]

1. You need better lighting. It was too dark and grainy. Try to light it better, then just adjust the brightness in post, it'll make it have a little less grain.

2. You needed to edit that together a bit tighter, when he says, "Hey, who are you?" it should have cut to Jason much faster, also, keep your dog out of the frame, that interrupts the mood if you're trying to have a more serious horror 'feel' to it.

3. The jump cut when you get hit with the arrow is jarring, you should have fixed this in two ways, A. Shown a shot of Jason coming to lord over your corpse. B. Done a close-up on your reaction.

It would have covered up the jump cut and made it much more effective.

I compliment you on your sound work, you did a good job with your foley stuff, and the music was nice and 'scary-ish'. It sounded a lot like music from an 80's horror film.

Other than that, i've also got to bring up the acting, I know you're not a professional actor, but think realistically here.

If a giant freak in a hockey mask carrying a bow and arrow walked into your house, would you calmly go, "Hey... Who're you?".

No. You'd scream, and go, "WHO THE F**K ARE YOU!?!" Or just scream and try to get the hell away.

"Hey... Who're you..?" is something you say to a lost child, not to a gigantic mutant psychopath pointing a loaded bow at your face.

Other than that, good job at not violating the 180 rule, you stayed on the same side the entire scene, that is a common mistake that didn't reflect in your work.

Keep at it, and I wish you luck re-editting it.

[vega.]

don't re-edit it. you'll ruin it.

[EverydayTodayStudios]

my mom said it was good
They always do.

[New Spark Films]

England's awesome (yes I've been there), but I guess some British people think the same about America until they actually live there.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

It's best to a negative about EVERYWHERE. Especially that damn infernal Luxemburg! I'll get it yet!

[WesScog]

I love love British things. I am probably more Pro-British than most British people.

I want to get a big Union Jack and hang it up on my wall. *Wonder's where to hang my giant map of London.*

Although I agree, Luxemburg is way to uppity... it needs to be knocked down a few pegs. *Get's out my cricket bat.*

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

I'm not a very patriotic person but I'm glad Scotland produced some kick ass bands. Idlewild, Franz Ferdinand, The Skids and David Birne from the Talking Heads. Sadly we also are responsible for The Proclaimers:supermad: and The Krankies (http://www.nofear.org/Archives/Media/2004/02/krankies-thumb.jpg). The Krankies is an immensly disturbing old TV show. Look it up, I'd say it's somewhere between Ed Gein and the Teletubbies. But Trainspotting is a Scottish film :D and it's pretty amazing.

I'm also rather proud to say Britain as a whole has made The Sex Pistols and the "graffiti" artist Banksy (http://weblog.evasee.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/BANKSY%20AGAIN.jpg) not to mention top hats!

And Luxemburg what does it have to its name? The word Luxemburg. That's all. *spits on ground then realises the spit is on his shoe so wipes it off with Mr Tickle hankie*

[New Spark Films]

I want to get a big Union Jack and hang it up on my wall. *Wonder's where to hang my giant map of London.*

Both of those are things I plan to do this year. That and revisit London.

[antivirusforu]

why does he open like 10 different threads on the same subject?

beats me...

yeah the video is terrrible so there you go... got it out of my chest...
I don't want to hear that I didn't post any videos yet. Don't have to show off to critisize what is posted here. If you don't like it stop making crappy shots.

[Roddimus Prime]

I hope you did well but when ever people say "my friend said" about something I always sense crap. I hope it's not but the instincts there.I know I'm new here Flamingo but Ive been reading a lot of the forums and you pop up a lot.
You also regularly come off as being very pretentious and full of yourself.

Now I know nobody in their right mind would intentionally come across that way. So I am telling you this not as an insult but just to bring it to your attention.

Also I would like to ask if you could provide me with some links to some of your work. If you are going to take such an authoritative stance on so many topics maybe it would be good to see your qualifications.

[Roddimus Prime]

I would hardly say this is perfect but it shows creative thinking.
I know a lot of people are being hard on this video and I agree that it has a lot of room for improvement. But you are exercising problem solving skills and that is a strong asset.

My main gripe with this video is when you get hit by the arrow and then it VERY NOTICEABLY cuts to you holding the arrow.
There is no way you can hide that cut. People are going to notice it so instead of trying to pretend its not there change the camera angle or framing so that people dont think about it.

If you had taken that opportunity to go to a close up then this wouldnt be an issue. So that is my suggestion for the future.

Aside from that though this is very good work and Im sure your skills will mature and grow splendidly.

[caseyatwell]

Im going to do an effect like this since ive seen it a few times. What you need is an arrow, bald cap liquid latex hotglue and mabe some nose putty and creativity. 1st cut two small circular piecees of the bald cap and put a hole in the middle of them. nxt get your arrow and saw it in half get the 2 pices of bald cap and get liquid latex and hot glue glue them on to the bald cap pieces and add some nose putty. mound it around the arrow creating a big skin puncture, and now blood! Go freely with that, now get the latex and put it together. BAM your dead!

<----O ( ^_^)O----->

heres an idea.

[freakonaleash223]

nice. i like it

[Anonymous_Review]

show us a video of it!

[Reverend Doodle]

THAT WAS THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2041/sigpr6.gif

i'm sorry, i had to.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

Has anybody else just stared at Alasdair's flashing thing for more than an hour and realised what LSD must feel like. I love it. I truly do.

[hayden]

it was ok.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

Thanks for being so supportive to him I personally thought it was amazing ;).

[Doctor Webley]

Has anybody else just stared at Alasdair's flashing thing for more than an hour and realised what LSD must feel like. I love it. I truly do.

So Alasdair was banned for a couple days? And then what happened,did he just leave? When I first joined he used to post all the time. Just wondering where he when, but things got really crazy at the end. That sig. being case and point.

[mensen59]

hes lying about the upload, ive been on yahoo and nothing is on there

[mensen59]

ive just double checked them and its nowhere to be seen

[SPYDRxz]

OMG he's just holding the arrow!

[bookin productions]

Do you want any tips from all of us?

[bookin productions]

or help?

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

He just stopped posting as much as he used to. I'm guessing he was told to get rid of the epileptic's nightmare GIF and the lovely unicorn. His posts pop up occasionally but it seems hedoesn't post that much anymore which is a shame. We NEED more:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2041/sigpr6.gif

[Peoplerstupid]

i totally agree and that must be better than lsd

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

There's no question about it.

[glmclainmovies]

everyone needs more alasdair

[toppie34]

hmm not bad but not that special either

[punkandska66]

bad, not special


i agree.

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

hmm not bad but not that special either

You know what is special though?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2041/sigpr6.gif

[Ladri.]

You know what is special though?

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2041/sigpr6.gif

OMG! This is the greatest thing I have ever seen!

[Flamingo With A Spoon Productions]

And it will remain that way :thumbsup:

[gcubedproductions]

the scene of the arrow being hit on me was really on string and was thrown at me then it moved slow so i had to speed it up OK i hope u like it, my mom said it was good
wow. just...wow.:loco:

[glmclainmovies]

wow. just...wow.:loco:

I agree with everything you just said. The arrow shot was the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. so there ^___^

[greendog]

Hello,
in an upcoming film, a character will be getting shot with an arrow. how would i come about doing this at a low cost?
Also, since you'd have to use a dummy, how could you make it so it still looks like the arrow is in the real person.
So basicly, how can you make a "getting shot with an arrow" effect, and then still have the actor walk around with the arrow in him.
Thanks

[WesScog]

This has been asked before, so search next time.

But the most basic way to do it is, show your person shooting the arrow pulling it back and shooting it (Don't fire it at ANYONE obviously.), then cut to your person being hit holding the arrow against their skin and gasping and falling over.

You can do a shot with your arrow flying through the air (film your arrow zooming through the air after you fire it, or film it against a green screen and composite it on top of footage of the background moving very fast.), and do a close up of you stabbing the arrow into your dummy very quickly.

You could also stick the arrow into the dummy, and tie some fishing line to the arrow and jerk the arrow out REALLY quickly, THEN reverse the footage and speed it up, and it'll look like the arrow is zooming INTO the target.

[Dasleah]

There's probably and easier way to do this (in fact, I'm sure of it) but here's how I've seen it done before:

Basically, you need some flexible tubing and a specially made arrow. The arrow itself has a solid head, but the body and flight (the 'tail') are made out of fabric or something equally flexible. The head itself can be solid if it's not too large (it has to fit down the tubing) You tie some fishing line or black cotton to the arrow head, then feed it through the flexible tubing.
This tubing then goes around your actor's waist (or whatever level you want them to be hit at), making sure that you have the appropriate entry and exit holes in their clothes, and the ends of the tubing pointing out)
The trick is, by pulling the line attached to the arrow fast enough, it'll fly straight towards the actor, then slip through the tubing and come out the other side, looking as though they've been shot and the arrow has gone straight through. If you want the arrow to 'stick', then it's simply an act of cutting and editting the film at the right place to switch between getting shot and just sticking two ends of an actual, solid prop arrow to your actor.

Hope that was clear enough.

[BoonMcNougat]

I swear I was reading a topic on this yesterday.

If all you need is to have guy look like he was shot with an arrow, buy an arrow, chop the about 1/3 from the arrowhead off (or more or less depending on how deep you want it to look) and use an adhesive to secure it to your actors body. Or just have him hold it like he's clutching his wounds.

You can also replace the arrow with balsa wood, and recreate the, I forget the terminology but the feather/plastic little wings on the end of the arrow to provide stability. Fliers?

[Direktor]

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=3835&highlight=Arrow+shot

I'm sorry....I couldn't resist.

[greendog]

thanks guys

[Wraith 5]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HaKxY3aEIL8&feature=related
Watch the shot at 12 seconds into this video..
Zoom the camera toward the person you are shooting at, as if the camera is filming from the point of view of the arrow, then cut to the arrow being stuck in the person/wall etc. Personally I think it makes the sequence more dynamic rather than showing an arrow being pulled along by a string.

Pretty much all the shots in that scene just show the arrows being released from the bow, then cutting to them hitting the object.

remember the old saying: Less is more. - the audiences imagination can sometimes be a more powerful tool than actually showing the full flight of the arrow. cutting out the flight would also enhance the sense of speed that the arrow is flying at.

The shot at 1:40 of this video could be achieved by dangling an arrow on 2 pieces of string in front of a greenscreen, then simply zoom the camera toward the target, and overlay the arrow clip.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mtKN2AV5bcw&feature=related

[greendog]

thanks

[nickanator8]

ok, heres what you do, film the person shooting the arrow from downrange. then in another shot quickly move the camera so it blurs, then show the actor with an arrow in his gut, have him die dramatically and everything is good.

[ilikecookies]

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii178/stewieparker/searchbutton.jpg

[BinBinProductions]

Just modify this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hcG0GawfUCE&feature=PlayList&p=2D81E2DD6A18C73C&index=2

[nexus2009]

Here is something that could be used and easily remaid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8mTae8oGfo

also here is the effect performed in real life and off the stage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIVVFN_dRZQ

[Doctor Webley]

Its quite interesting how many threads on this are posted. (Constantly) Its the new Halo thread.

[Two-HeadedBoy]

hi indy mogul i was wonderin if you guys could show how 2 do a arrow shot with out hurting teh actor bein shot at

[trspballer7]

I know you are new....but go to the top bar and search it.... it is between New posts and quick links...hit the arrow...type in arrow shot....and there you go....you will find plenty of information.


p.s. Please no one post that one video...."Who are you?"....if you have seen it you know what I mean...

[yourmindsinnerworkings]

if i ever have to watch that thing again i might cry

[17thletterfilms]

"Who are you?"....if you have seen it you know what I mean...
XD Maybe it'd be of help to him.

[drumsofdoom]

search but i would do this
1. Shot of guy shooting arrow
2. Shot of arrow in front of a green screen so the point faces away from the cam
put a really fast zoom behind it
3. tie fishing line to the back of the arrow, put it in between your actors arm and body and pull, then reverse the footage

[ciwi286]

XD Maybe it'd be of help to him.

Maybe like a ...how not to do an arrow shot.

[Citrus]

p.s. Please no one post that one video...."Who are you?"....if you have seen it you know what I mean...
I must of missed this. What is it?

[Two-HeadedBoy]

wonderful responses


now tell me how to boil an egg

[Direktor]

I must of missed this. What is it?

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1749624

I gotcha buddy ;)

[trspballer7]

WHY DID I HAVE TO BRING IT BACK!!

[Citrus]

ohh that I've seen it before. i didn't know it by the name "who are you?". Thanks for making me watch it again! AGHHHH

[trspballer7]

lol....

[Direktor]

WHY DID I HAVE TO BRING IT BACK!!

Don't worry about it buddy, I was going to post it even before I saw your message. Any time I see "Arrow shot" on the forum I'm inclined to post that video.

[trspballer7]

lol well us original mogulers know the horrid truth of the original months....

[Direktor]

Horrid doesn't even begin to describe it....

[New Spark Films]

^More like amazing!^

Seriously I could watch that over and over.

[trspballer7]

Ive shown it to my friends who arent even that much into filmmaking, and they laughed so much.

[Fisherking]

wonderful responses


now tell me how to boil an egg

I. Boil water in a pot.
II. Put egg(s) in pot.
III. Wait for egg to boil (~3 minutes for soft-boiled, 8 for hard-boiled).
IV. Eat egg (optional).

[Two-HeadedBoy]

I. Boil water in a pot.
II. Put egg(s) in pot.
III. Wait for egg to boil (~3 minutes for soft-boiled, 8 for hard-boiled).
IV. Eat egg (optional).

well atleast some one chose to stay a little on topic

[HunnyBunchFilms]

Direktor thank you so much for posting arrow shot. Lol that video is classic.

[17thletterfilms]

Direktor thank you so much for posting arrow shot. Lol that video is classic.
I want to submit it for a 10 second clip on Indy Mogul.

[Direktor]

Direktor thank you so much for posting arrow shot. Lol that video is classic.

It was my pleasure! :D

[Two-HeadedBoy]

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1749624

I gotcha buddy ;)

that was worse than getting a face full of garbage smell

[samthegorefan]

god you guys are odd in a way i can not explain, at least i tried. what about you, have you tried to make it no. it's more brighter to keep posting the same forum over and over again. yippee 4 repeats of the same thing.:):):):):)

[SivartAlappesProductions]

hi indy mogul i was wonderin if you guys could show how 2 do a arrow shot with out hurting teh actor bein shot at


Ok, I'm going to tell you the CLASSIC way to do an arrow shooting scene. It's how Hollywood has been doing arrow-shooting since the 40's!


1)In the frame we see our archer. He pulls back the arrow and takes aim at his target.
2)In the frame we see the target. No arrow yet!
3)In the frame we see the archer. He releases, letting the arrow fly.
4)The frame rapidly pans across the frame at a break-neck pace, trying desperately to track the arrow.
5)In frame, we see the arrow embedded in the target. If the target is human, we see their reaction/death to being shot.


In actuality, the archer and the target are never in the same plain (unless you do an over-the-shoulder shot of the archer taking aim... make sure he doesn't accidentally shoot the target!!!!!).

What sells the effect is showing the two components (the archer and target) to make the audience feel they can actually see one another, when they probably aren't even on set together!). Then the rapid pan gives the illusion of the arrow in flight, when in actuallity, you're just panning across the landscape with nothing actually in the frame. And the most vital part to selling this effect is the target's reaction.

[samthegorefan]

not bad

[Fisherking]

god you guys are odd in a way i can not explain, at least i tried. what about you, have you tried to make it no.

This could have several possible interpretations, but I'm going with: "At least I tried. What about you? Have you tried to make [an arrow strike]? No."

Sam, your arrow hit sucked. It sucked transcendently. It was gut-wrenchingly, embarrassingly, nauseatingly godawful. Unlike some other posters, I'm not going to hold it against you. I've made some henious crap that's never seen the light of day. Sum total is: If it sucks, don't post it. Youtube certainly doesn't need any more garbage.

As an aside, does anyone find the constant posts for arrow hits amusing? It seems disproportionate to the number of, ahem... 'kids with bow-and-arrow' movies popping up on Youtube.

[Direktor]

god you guys are odd in a way i can not explain, at least i tried. what about you, have you tried to make it no. it's more brighter

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc49/xXDirektorXx/FailBus.jpg

[UntoldHorror]

1. Shot of guy shooting arrow.
2. Have the actor shoot the arrow
3.Get a shot of arrow just below camera lens (so you can still see arrow) then just walk up to the actor getting shot at like the camera is the eyes of the arrow.
4.Cut to a shot of the arrow sticking out of the actors Head or wherever.

Check out Screamkings.com, Camp Slaughter. They have a bunch of arrow kills.

Bryan Roberts

[kigents]

well it was pretty simple just hold a half arrow in your hand right there where camera dont see it and when you are ready just pull insanely quick it to where you want to get the arrow hit.. simple..

[hitmanofnorway]

i rely need this effect sign me in!

[trspballer7]

sign you in for what? the previous posts in this thread(besides the video discussion part) are very helpful and that is how you should do it.

[punkandska66]

^More like amazing!^

Seriously I could watch that over and over.

does it not make your eye's bleed? actually the first time I saw it I cracked up but then as I watched it more I began to be more inclined to crying.

[thespazicat]

an arrow through someones neck like in friday 13th

[speekerphone]

easy. cut an arrow in half and use liquid latex to attach each half to the other side of the neck

[Fisherking]

Savini talks about it in his book Grande Illusions. He lifecast Kevin Bacon's neck and shoulders, reproducing them in foam latex backed with (I think) fibreglass. There was a hole in the bed which the actor stuck his head through and the fake shoulders were affixed. A technician beneath the bed shoved the arrow through the fake skin and Taso (Savini's assistant) pumped the blood.

Everything below Kevin Bacon's chin was fake.

That might be a bit too advanced, but the basic principle can be simplified and adapted for your needs.

[samthegorefan]

to bring this back is painful but i have been working on a new one
to redeem me of the old one give me some time to work on it

[glmclainmovies]

Oh I can't wait to see this :rolleyes:

[samthegorefan]

hey i know the 1st one was crap but i have study one film impractically sleep-away camp 1 and i believe i can pull it off just need time and good work heck if i made a slit throat piece that pumps blood than i can remake this.

[happyhands man]

easy. cut an arrow in half and use liquid latex to attach each half to the other side of the neck
there is no way liquid latex would be strong enough

[samthegorefan]

hey got done with it itis a simple build and is ok

[CSG Productions]

or you could just get 2 pinkish colored head bands and a arrow
then cut the arrow in half and hot glue one half to one head band and the other to other half
then ust spirit gum to attach to the actors neck and use liquid latex to blend in the color and make sure it's stuck on the neck

[Producer 9]

dude they sell cheap arrow things that people put on there heads at halloween, use one of them with fake blood

[Indymoguler]

there is no way liquid latex would be strong enough

maybe a little nose putty might help?

[Gwiz]

there is no way liquid latex would be strong enough

depends on how "real" the arrow is. if it's hollow, and made from cardboard-ish materials, it might be able to hold.. with some nose putty...:fcross:

[ercfrnss]

this method is actually EXTRMEMLY effective. just cut from a shot of an arrow being shot very quickly to your actor screaming with a prop arrow sticking out of his leg. add an whoosh and impact sound effect for better results

[Mattageddon]

Just replicate this. Sort of....

539

Like the BFX knife throw but you have two ends to work with. Use the hat and fixate both ends as separate pieces. It might be a little awkward... but I think it'd work. The fast pan is the only way it'd work though. Unless of course you're magic and can shoot things through people's heads with out killing or injuring them.

[WesScog]

Merged most of the "Arrow Shot" effect threads.

[Mattageddon]

Merged most of the "Arrow Shot" effect threads.

I was wondering how so many posts got onto this thread.

[IrishBlend]

I would love to see how to do the effect from the first Friday the 13th were Mrs. Voorhees stabbed the arrow through the back of the guy's neck for an upcoming short film I'm working on.

[Neoproks]

Please use the search button before posting requests

Arrow through neck
http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=10176&highlight=arrow+through+neck (http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=10176&highlight=arrow+through+neck)

[xsanmdanx]

http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/BTS/Pt1/1bts11.jpg (http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/index2.htm)
http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/BTS/Pt1/1bts10.jpg
http://campblood.shiversofhorror.com/BTS/Pt1/1bts12.jpg

[FandFstudios]

One way to do it is to cut an arrow in half, and use latex to attach one end to the back of the neck and then do the same thing with the front. Put fake blood around the arrow, and then film one actor shooting an identical arrow, then film the actor with the arrow in his neck.

[xsanmdanx]

btw, those are original scetches.

[calebswartz558]

just use the knife throw build

[Steelersk36]

Please use the SPOILER BUTTON in the future, IrishBlend.
You get one warning.....then we stab an arrow through your neck.

[xsanmdanx]

Please use the SPOILER BUTTON in the future, IrishBlend.
You get one warning.....then we stab an arrow through your neck.
I wouldn't say that the spoiler button is needed when it happened in a 30 years old movie.

[Steelersk36]

My mistake, I was thinking of the current Friday the 13th.
Wouldn't know, becasue I've yet to see it.
My apologies, IrishBlend

[Wra1th13]

Please use the SPOILER BUTTON in the future, IrishBlend.
You get one warning.....then we stab an arrow through your neck.

there's a spoiler button?

[samsfilms]

Modify the rig from the knife throw build. You can use liquid latex to hide the wire. if it has to be shown landing in the neck, the appearing trick works well because the arrow goes so fast. Optionally, you can add a blur in post production.

[ADHDowls]

okay, we have this thing we want to do for the youtube, and we use arrows...like alot...like robin hood alot...so we are sort of wondering if any one could help us...because we would like to put arrows through peoples heads...and not litterally...Okay I'm babbling now, so, talk amongst yourselves, and like...HELP US.


I love this guy->:gary:

[UberMoguler]

Before you start i would watch the BFX eppisode where they did the knife throwing effect, or there is an alternative, Simple and Quite quick way of solving your problem.

What You'll need:

Arrow Head (made of any material)
Arrow End
Wire (I suggest the wire from a wire hanger as it keeps it shape well)

1. Shape the wire to go around one half of your actors head, It should look like a "U" shape with the ends pointed out.

2. Stick the arrow head to the front (or back considering which way you want the arrow to go in) of the wire hanger, i reccomend hot glue for this and then repeat with the end of the arrow on the back.

Hope this helped :D

[cyrax037]

I think it would be cool to shoot someone with an arrow.

Only on indymogul could you get away with a statement like that. LMFAO.:D


Might have been suggested, but film the archer with the arrow, then film the guy that gets hit. but do it twice, one with the arrow, and one without, so you can later splice it so it looks like the arrow suddenly appears in his chest, or use the BFX episode on the knife throw, and modify that!