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LuxuryEntertainment
10-03-2007, 07:46 PM
I want to have a costume with a rig that will sprig an alien out of my chest, (An alien babe from the "Alien" movie series "Alien" "Aliens" "Alien3" "Alien Resurrection")


features that I need are:

Alien springing out of my chest when someone answers the door (at the touch of a button or something)

The alien stays attached to my chest and doesn't fall off, it just springs out pretty far.

easy to reset (push button, alien pops out, push alien back in, repeat.) if it could be like that it would be awesome.:fcross:

LuxuryEntertainment
10-03-2007, 07:53 PM
Rofl it would be hilarious if it popped out holding a candy bag.:teehee:

WesScog
10-03-2007, 10:04 PM
I suggest making a ballistics gel sheet, carving it kind of like a chest, paint it up, cutting a slit in it, making a alien out of polymer clay, bake it so its hard, paint it up, and put it on a stick.

For the electronics regarding a trigger that can make something jump like that, you'll need some kind of small electric motor, and some kind of trigger, or switch for it, and a power set-up.

If you are electronically inclined, might I suggest modifying a Halloween gizmo that jumps out once a motion sensor is activated.

What it does is when it is activated it usually completes a circuit that activates the mechanics to make something jump out, if you have any kind of knowledge of electronics, it shouldn't be that difficult to modify it for the circuit completion mechanism to be a manual switch instead of a IR motion sensor.

If you aren't, I could POSSIBLY draw up some diagrams on how you could possibly modify it.

nooneimportant77
10-03-2007, 10:19 PM
PLEASE READ EDIT: i do this all the time

^^ not a bad idea, but why not just do this

build a torso like the stunt body on bfx, then cut a hole like an X i guess in the torso where you want your alien to pop out of

get your alien,

get some fake blood and guts - thats where the graphic deatial really comes into play

shove the alien through, have someone off camera shake the torso around, ta da!

EDIT: totally miss read the post haha, you need it to motion activated. you can buy motion activated things at party stores buy one hook it up to your alien and go ! haha sorry bout that

LuxuryEntertainment
10-06-2007, 12:29 PM
I wanted it to be for a Halloween costume not necessarily with electronics, have you ever seen those snake things that you can buy and putt in a book so that when your friend opens the book it jumps out at them? well I was thinking of something as simple as that. well with more to the costume to make it look good and with the things I said I needed from before.

PS: thanks for the help guys not quite what I need yet but well get there thanks.

Wraith 5
10-06-2007, 12:40 PM
For what you described, It'd probably be easier to make the alien, then attach it to your hand like a puppet, and mabye cover your arm in fake blood/guts, kinda like the brain tutorial. Whichever arm is occupied by the alien puppet, make a fake arm to put in the empty sleeve of your coat/sweater/whatever. This would give you a lot more control of what the alien does, and how it moves etc, and also being very easy to reset - just pull the alien puppet back through the hole in your clothing and repeat as necessary.

LuxuryEntertainment
10-08-2007, 02:51 PM
For what you described, It'd probably be easier to make the alien, then attach it to your hand like a puppet, and mabye cover your arm in fake blood/guts, kinda like the brain tutorial. Whichever arm is occupied by the alien puppet, make a fake arm to put in the empty sleeve of your coat/sweater/whatever. This would give you a lot more control of what the alien does, and how it moves etc, and also being very easy to reset - just pull the alien puppet back through the hole in your clothing and repeat as necessary.

thanks that sounds like the best way to go:cool:

babypuncher16
11-28-2007, 08:53 PM
i need an alien effect were they burst through peoples stomach:learn:

Luchastyle
11-28-2007, 09:49 PM
relatively simple effect, depending on what you want. the close up is of a dummy. using liquid latex, and maybe even dipping latex for skin, or you can do the foam soak as seen in the limb tear episode. you fill the stomach with guts and blood (maybe a couple blood pumps that can squirt, or just like a big bag that burst when the alien comes out) and then you have your alien. you push the alien from underneath, probably have some sort of black or red fabric to prevent seeing the puppeteer underneath the body. you could even have an actor underneath the body as well to put his hands at the stomach at the time of the alien burst, to add to the illusion. that's a rough idea. hope that helps

Alasdair
11-28-2007, 11:08 PM
You could have the puppet/blood in a zipper pouch in the belly of the actor's shirt (even better if he's wearing a sweatshirt). when it's time for the alien to burst out, have one piece of fishing line to yank open the zipper, and the other to yank out the alien puppet!

biohazard
11-28-2007, 11:20 PM
like what Luchastyle said, i would make a dummy, but the only part that needs to be realisticish is the abdomen(by that i mean the whole area that the shirt would cover, including arms) (which doesn't necessarily need to be that realistic cuz there should be a shirt over it). then you do the guts and alien thing that he said.
Then to top it all off, make a mask of the area that the shirt covers and put it over your footage of your actor acting like it just happened.
one majorly important thing is to make sure you filmed the dummy body at the exact same angle as your actor. also, I would suggest making the dummy a little larger than it should be, because you can scale it down or whatever else you need to do to make it fit in post.
I hope that made sense

sam/gone/mad
11-29-2007, 05:46 PM
;)hey how about a fake chest. one that is stable, put an
anlien through it, or have a group of zombies take a poor human down. and have them rip out the humans guts. that is what we need. hey every one if you want this vote now. by saying yes. thank you.:fcross::fcross::fcross::fcross::fcross::fcros s:

Alasdair
11-29-2007, 05:52 PM
They've told you how to do something like this already. If you watch the stunt dummy episode, you can use the same technique to easily take a cast of somebody's chest.

You could then fill it with fake guts or an alien and put some old tearable clothes on it.

The stunt dummy episode can be found here. (http://www.indymogul.com/episode/BFX_20070917)

Zombeast
11-29-2007, 05:55 PM
You could do the thing where you bury the body (not the head/neck) of your actor and take a cardboard box and cover it with latex and make up, fill it with fake guts and all that good stuff, throw a shirt on it and have your zombie tear their freakin' brains out.

Captain SteveBeard
11-29-2007, 05:59 PM
Yeah, Alasdair is right. You already know the techniques to make this, they just aren't in the form of a fake chest.

Personally, I think the best option would be to buy a styrofoam torso for displaying clothing. Erik bought styrofoam heads from www.valuedisplay.com (http://www.valuedisplay.com). You can also just check around in costume stores and see if you can buy any extras.

Hollow out the chest area, then go over everything with layers of liquid latex and paint. Then you can fill up the hole with some ballistics gel around the outside. This is done by putting a greased cup or small bowl in the center, then filling the surrounding area with gel. When it dries you can slide out the cup and have a nice mold.

Fill it with whatever you like!

Dannydeath530
11-29-2007, 06:10 PM
ok all you need is a pillow and a pillow case then you could but ziplock bags of fake blood under the pillow case and for guts uhhhh you could use a homemade method i made... first you get microwavable noodles cook them then pour fake blood all over it then stir.. its pretty cool. so wene your done with filling the pillow case with your stuff put a shirt over the pillow case then stab away.........p.s i recomend a close shot while doing the stabbing... have fun:D

Alasdair
11-29-2007, 06:11 PM
Please type with the default font. Having the font take up my whole screen is very annoying.

mr_goodbomb
01-14-2008, 03:32 PM
The chainsaw arm is cool, but...

moonwolf
01-14-2008, 03:34 PM
yeah i would love to see an alien style chest burst

speekerphone
01-14-2008, 03:39 PM
he will do it soon.................. i hope!

DeadFishProductions
01-14-2008, 04:05 PM
It's easy just follow these steps

1. Get or make a chestuburster replica puppet that wiil fit over your arm (flesh cloroued sock with fake chattery teeth smeared in golden syrup and blood)
2.Have your actor put on the sock.
3. Get the actor to put on a long sleeved shirt with a small cross cut into the front of the shirt.
4. Get or make a fake arm to relpace the arm currently occupied by the the puppet (See Indy Mogul's stunt dummy episode/limb tear)
5.Have your actor keep the puppet under the shirt and have the fake arm put in the empty sleeve.
6.Shoot it and have your actor act all sick and then punch the puppet through the rip in the shirt. and then dramtically die.
*7 (Add a blood pack under the shirt that is burst on tear for that extra gory effect.

Fisherking
01-15-2008, 06:03 AM
No.

Usually you would have your actor's head and shoulders beneath a surface of some description, with a fake body affixed, through which a technician underneath would thrust the puppet.

mr_goodbomb
01-16-2008, 12:04 AM
I was thinking more of a chest being ripped open, a la Dawn and Day of the Dead.

WesScog
01-16-2008, 12:15 AM
Please wait, there is one episode a week.

How to make a fake chainsaw was requested a bit more.

It's on the horizon, it's being worked out, but the guys are REALLY busy, the team is heading out to Sundance VERY VERY soon, and have so much stuff to work out before then.

JoebIgBananapeel
04-20-2008, 03:07 PM
Remember the movie alien. well i wacthed it and thought what if indymogul did this .
create a puppet that can look like it ripped/poped from a chest. bloody gory and awesome



please do this .


-joe wright

WesScog
04-20-2008, 03:26 PM
You'd probably want to do something similar to the heart tear episode, but instead you drill a hole in the bottom of the chest, put an alien on a stick, and just push it up, so it would pop out of the front.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1825/aliengm7.jpg

But you can get your actor to react, and you can have someone hiding a puppet on a stick under their shirt, and have them push it up, and have a tube going to the end of the puppet so you can start squirting a little blood.

But have your person sitting, and the puppeteer sitting out of frame with a stick up the actors shirt, have your actor react and get them to start shaking it around and making it look like something is trying to pop out of their chest.

THEN, you cut to your actor positioned BEHIND the dummy, so you can see their head, and for the close-ups, film the alien popping out of the dummy chest.

Then you can cut back to the alien puppet spirit gummed to the real actors chest, with the shirt all torn open and bloody.

So you go, someone just bouncing a stick around in their shirt (maybe with a puppet attached, maybe with some blood squirting out of a tube similar to my cutting tutorial you would just use a tube and a nasal bulb.)

Then you go to a close-up of the alien popping out of a fake chest similar to the heart tear build.

Then you cut to the actor reacting with the puppet spirit gummed to his chest and his shirt totally torn open with lots of blood and stuff gushing out.

Then you can jerk the puppet out completely out of the fake chest with the dummy, using fishing wire (you'll need a complete puppet for this instead of just the puppet on a stick), and you can show it skittering off.

Then you cut to your actor falling over dead with a large bloody wound created on his chest, you can keep squirting blood out and he can fall over and die.

Gundam all hail
06-17-2008, 08:18 AM
I was inspired at the fact in Alien where the baby alien jumps out of ash's rib cage, blood spilling all over his shirt and runs away!
i was wondering how we can make a baby alien, make it look like its coming out of the chest, like trying to free itself and make it run away! :confused:

Fisherking
06-17-2008, 08:43 AM
The effect in Alien was produced by having the actor stick his head and arms through a table with a fake body affixed (similar to the 'blown-in-half' episode of BFX). As far as I know, the alien was a puppet.

Gundam all hail
06-17-2008, 05:55 PM
then under the table would be the puppeteer, and with it the tubes for the fake blood...cool INDY!!!!! PLZ MAKE THIS!!!!!!

ciwi286
06-17-2008, 06:28 PM
then under the table would be the puppeteer, and with it the tubes for the fake blood...cool INDY!!!!! PLZ MAKE THIS!!!!!!

We have just established Fake table with holes, fake chest, puppet.

Please use you imagination and adapt things. Indy mogul have shown us how to make a stunt dummy (fake chest) and chest tear effect (bloody goodness) A puppet (Alien) and blown in half (fake table)...There is no point in them doing this!

happyhands man
06-17-2008, 06:36 PM
you could make the alien like some guy along time ago made his fetus in a bottle thing
i dont remember where it is

ciwi286
06-17-2008, 06:40 PM
Baron von fogel.... that guy is amazing. Link here

http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=4807&highlight=baron+fogel+fetus

EDIT: strange... the photos arent loading.... trust me it was amazing!

EDIT2: Im extracting all the photo links from his post... Ill quote it in a sec with the photos intact

Edit3: sorry photos don't exist anymore.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/floopy42/PA060040.jpg

Indymoguler
06-17-2008, 08:12 PM
guys please check out my awsum page on youtube
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glmclainmovies
06-17-2008, 09:53 PM
guys please check out my awsum page on youtube
called myfaultstudios

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Vaughn Whynot
06-17-2008, 09:57 PM
he spammed one of my threads too

ciwi286
06-17-2008, 10:10 PM
holy crap the photos started workinG?

Gwiz
06-18-2008, 08:36 PM
wait, they might have...? idk, i saw only one.

ciwi286
06-18-2008, 08:39 PM
There is only one in my post but if you follow the link they are all there.

wolfpredator2007
06-22-2008, 05:40 PM
I love the Alien series, and I'm making an Alien fanfilm, but I need a way to make a cheap Alien suit and way to do the chestburster effect.

Wra1th13
06-22-2008, 06:03 PM
No way you could do a alien suit for "cheap", but for the chestburster you could just modify the heart rip effect, and do it backwards. Put the dummy on a table with a hole in it like the blown in half effect, and have a chestburster puppet explode through with a blood shooter.

ciwi286
06-22-2008, 07:13 PM
HI. I see you new here so first of all welcome to the forums! Up under where you sign in there is a search function. Please use it in future before posting new threads.
Chestburst effect (http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=7888&highlight=alien+puppet+chest)

As for the alien costume... that would be a toughie for under 50 bucks. I would say take what you have learned from the muscle suit, swamp monster & giant sandwich costume and you could come up with a good result.

Get a tight fitting top and pants and build on it with foam shapes and cover in panty hose skin. you could make a type of backpack that had the extruding backbone on it and a tail coming off it (made of foam). For the head maybe something similar to the demon episode with green potting foam as the extension on the back of the head allowing for nose putty and latex facial details.

The flaw of it all being foam is:
1. Thats a helluva lot of foam!
2. It could end up very mascot like. Maybe for the backbone and tail you could make the structure out of chicken wire and cover it with foam. It may be more restricting, but it'll probably look more reaslistic.

You could find a tutorial online for a super realistic costume but it aint gonna be cheap!

treymac70
07-19-2008, 02:24 AM
hey whussup everybody can any1 help me out with a alien chestburster not that thing that grabs on 2 ur face im talkin bout the little alien that pops out of your chest i just need help with that if any1 has ideas mabey sumthin like a sock
puppet and a ripped open chest effect , well if any1 has any ideas tell me thanks bye

happyhands man
07-19-2008, 10:53 AM
there has already been a thead on this
you can use the search button to find things that have already been posted, its near the top of the page near private messages

Turtle_Muffin
07-19-2008, 10:56 AM
The number one rule: Don't repeat threads.

happyhands man
07-19-2008, 10:59 AM
The number one rule: Don't repeat threads.
number 2 rule: don't be mean, especially to new members

tambrm1016
07-19-2008, 07:56 PM
Watch the BFX episode where they blow someone in half. (Bur use a whole lower half stunt dummy for the chest and legs of the actor) You can then just make a hand puppet out of a sock and liquid latex for the chest burster. Use liquid latex for the effect where the skin stretches out, lots of red food coloring for blood.

You got a chest burster!!

BTW I used the search button and had trouble coming up with specifics on his question. someone else with more time might have more luck...

tambrm1016
07-19-2008, 08:02 PM
Also, check this out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t708rrNNRp4&feature=related

treymac70
07-20-2008, 12:05 AM
thanks

Shanti
08-20-2008, 09:48 AM
HI! I wonder i you for cheap could make an alien come out from your stomach. that would be nice.

Please some one help me!:)


FFE Prod. And Lejd Prod.

glmclainmovies
08-20-2008, 09:50 AM
Just use a variant of the heart rip effect

Shanti
08-20-2008, 10:05 AM
yeah maybe ... i thought about that but... building the little alien? I am not realy ood at stuff like that... I am 12 :D

ciwi286
08-20-2008, 10:11 AM
Hi. I see you new here so first of all welcome. Up under where you login there is a search function. Please use it before posting new threads. This has been requested a few times and many solutions have been posted in This (http://forum.indymogul.com/showthread.php?t=7888&highlight=alien+stomach) thread.

Z0studios
08-22-2008, 04:02 AM
To do this effect you must first build a table with a small hole in the middle and a large hole at the back next you need to build a headless dummy with a hole that is not visible in the middle.
how it works is the dummies hole matches the small hole in the table and the actors head replaces the dummies so that the puppet pops out of the small hole and the actor screams in pain well in fake pain

WesScog
08-22-2008, 05:51 AM
Merged the most recent "Alien Chest Burst" effect request.

AaronBlauvelt
08-22-2008, 09:51 AM
they did a slant board for the cut in half effect. this is how they did it in the movie and have another guy under the table purging through the fake body (stunt dummy) and your real arms and head will be going through the table like in the body slice effect.

closet_rat
08-22-2008, 01:12 PM
Oy... the request was for a costume, meaning something mobile, light, and easy to reset.

This would actually be REALLY easy; you'll just want to bastardize the idea behind a jack-in-the-box....

First, you'll need a long, relatively weak spring (the weaker the better), you might want to just pick up a wobbly hat or jack-in-the-box & steal the spring...

Next, mount the spring to a small piece of plastic, like the lid to a coffee can (face the lip out to prevent injury (and to provide mounting points for gore!).

Then, you'll need to sew a long tube out of some cheap fabric (at least as long as your spring...) & turn it inside out.

Then, craft a face for your alien (I'd use a light frame like styrofoam & maybe beads for eyes...), but keep it only about an inch deep.

Paint a varnish over the head (you may have to coat it with a layer to prevent a reaction b/w varnish & foam, so use some scrap to test this...)

Then super/hot glue the head to the spring & then the tube to the back of the head.

Staple the spring & tube to the coffee lid base.

Build a spring loaded latch, w/ hook to hold down the head**

**this is the only part I'm lost on... haven't built anything moving before, and don't have the time for the semantics (I'm at work as tech support), so I apologize, but trial & error would help here... maybe build a separate frame to support the latch...

Stand the spring head on it's base & paint with latex paint to hide the seams & staples (you could use caulking hear, it's dirt cheap), and put in your details like more wrinkles, veins & whatnot.

Staple some straps to the base a la an arc reactor base (check instructables for a reference), then staple a little spare fabric to the lip of the lid.

Hang the spring upside down when the paint dries & paint the scrap fabric to look like torn skin.

Now, if this thing only has to look good for one day, you could also rub it down with Vegetable Oil (cheap slimy shine!) or glycerin (not cheap, but much better shine)...

Grab/buy/borrow a cheap shirt (button-up or t-shirt, but it should be fairly loose...).
Carefully mark & cut where the apparatus lines up on your chest.

Hang the shirt & paint on your dripping & splattered blood, making sure that you radiate from the hole...

Put on a black undershirt, strap on your chest piece, throw on the shirt & you're golden...

This would also look better if you're wearin' layers, but... it depends on how big yer chest is...

closet_rat
08-24-2008, 01:55 AM
okay... >200 views, but no comment?

Am I way out in left field here, or what?

Gwiz
09-14-2008, 09:58 AM
if you make yourself look fat, you can conceal it better. (i.e. a pillow)

jabbarules
09-14-2008, 12:41 PM
do it

triforceguy1
01-04-2009, 11:27 AM
Hi,

I think it would be a good idea if you could show us how to make something jump out of someone head, stomach, chest etc. like in the movie 'Alien'. What do you think?

Thanks
Leon

ArtisticProductions
01-04-2009, 11:43 AM
Well. An easy way to do that would be to film your actor grabbing a part of their body. Then switch to a dummy and have a puppet of digital creature come out.

TheMightySeamus
01-04-2009, 11:47 AM
BFX did an episode on this effect fairly recently.

Fluppeteer
01-04-2009, 11:51 AM
BFX did an episode on this effect fairly recently.
It was the thanksgiving special. :bobby:

triforceguy1
01-04-2009, 11:52 AM
thanks

Jakekilgore
01-04-2009, 03:50 PM
oy vey.

watupdog892
05-11-2009, 07:01 PM
hey ummm i was wondering if the indy mogul crew could make the effect were the aliens would break out off their chess!

o ya for cheap!

theSarge00
05-11-2009, 07:05 PM
http://www.indymogul.com/backyard-fx/episode/BFX_20081117

Snap!

revan
05-12-2009, 02:55 AM
ya should use eriks turkey burst tutorial and make a creepy alien sockpuppet or something cover in blood liquid latex the works

Razback
05-12-2009, 11:14 AM
This episode was epichttp://www.indymogul.com/backyard-fx/episode/BFX_20081117

Silver Magician
05-12-2009, 06:27 PM
I could us this for the movie!
Oh and Razback for the message you sent me, you have to delete some to have more space because it looks like you have 50 pm's already.

Razback
05-13-2009, 11:27 AM
Yeah sure but did you read i give you my idea to put in your movie a Winchester journal..who do you think well be more cool

portalperson14
05-14-2009, 04:05 AM
Hey

have any of you seen the scene where the alien explodes out of the chest of the astronaut.

I would really like Indy to make that.

,.|.. Flip the birdy ,.|..

xsanmdanx
05-14-2009, 04:11 AM
Atleast fucking watch all episodes before request!

http://www.indymogul.com/backyard-fx/episode/BFX_20081117

NextGenerationmovies
05-16-2009, 06:07 PM
Aliens, the script that has a hand popping out of a stomach also has aliens or some kind of alien looking creature. Not the aliens from the movie Alien.

-NextGenerationmovies
:gary:

xsanmdanx
05-16-2009, 06:17 PM
Is this a request or are just telling about your next film?

CR-Videos.co.nr
05-16-2009, 06:46 PM
I was thinking the same thing as Sandman
For the hand popping out of the stomach which was actually an alien if I'm right use the episode on it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXlTRS8pSpY

NextGenerationmovies
05-16-2009, 07:33 PM
It is a request for a BFX film for Aliens and a hand popping through a stomach.

-NextGenerationmovies
:gary:

HomemadePictures
05-16-2009, 08:26 PM
well, you should probably describe the aliens you would like built, is this a little tiny alien, or a very large scary alien? or anything in between,
E.T. or Rancor? you need to be a little more specific

Steelersk36
05-16-2009, 09:15 PM
No need, Homemade Pictures.

This has been requested many times and there is an Episode all about it.
Links are earlier in this merged thread.

psycho_cow_chick
05-16-2009, 11:07 PM
i dont get the part where erik tells you how to put it on your actor, anyone else feel the same?

Razback
05-17-2009, 12:05 PM
i dont get the part where erik tells you how to put it on your actor, anyone else feel the same?

LOL